You could simply click my dosing link in my sig. That would give you all the information you need. There are also atleast two more threads that go into great detail about size of dose compared with multiple vaping devices. There's no reason to have people asks simple questions when the simple ones are a few clicks away.

That's the point if this forum. If we didn't enforce this we would have hundreds of threads every day askin the same question. Which sometimes we still get multiple threads in the same week asking te same question because they are too lazy or don't know to search or their answer first.

I beg to differ. I know a few people personally that if I dosed them 40+ mg in my GVG it would cause negative and possibly permanent damage to their way of life. I'm a fairly strong minded person and suggesting for someone to dose whatever they feel is a wrong answer IMO. So any answer suggesting the common sized doses is the right answer.

I'm sorry, I could have certainly worded that better. I'm not suggesting to dose whatever amount they feel like.

The point I was trying to reinforce is that, first of all, I suggest to start low, about 15mg being plenty. Secondly, if the person does not heed this suggestion, then while a higher dose wont kill them, it may be way more than they can handle and once you start (once you have inhaled that dose) there is no changing your mind or turning back.

And the final point to note is that "the right dose" is different and dependent upon the individual. But the only way to find "the right dose" is through experimentation.

Well, as a moderator, I've been given some fairly simple directives from He, Who, In His Infinite Wisdom, Makes The Rules Around Here. It's His site, and it's evolved in such a way that "we" (meaning all those tasked with carrying out the Master Plan of He, Who Runs The Joint And Makes All The Rules) encourage all who enter to do at least a modicum of personal research before bogging down the forum with a slew of inane questions.

"We're" not nose wipers. "We're" not diaper changers. "We're" not here to powder your bottom. Your question and the way you've phrased it indicate more than anything to "me" that you are really not ready for this.

Nicely put

What is the least amount of DMT for decient trip?
20mgs?..30mgs?....40mgs?.....more?

My post above just asked what low doses of DMT are most efective ?>


This normal question that violated NO RULES on this site!!

And im sorry i posted three times it was a mistake with my keyboard...

[do you think in your mind.. that i did it just to iratate you personally?]
[....that sounds paranoid to me...
[i dont even know you...i asure you i didnt mean it that way..

And how do you justify responding to me this way??
It was just a simple harmless question that netted me few polite answers ..that is untill you answered?

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I am not new to these kind of drugs and [DONT] need my nose wiped as you said...
Im just new to DMT only and have done pleanty of other drugs as well as practicing lucid dreaming for the last 6 years...
I thought this was a talk forum and the subject of DMT is popular here..?


WELL SAID!

Define "decent trip". This part confuses me.

Your answer is truthfully unanswerable. The reason why is as follows:

Some people have different tolerances

Different Smoking devices provide different results

Experience with said smoking device creates variation in effect


You could also try it yourself, something I have done a few times. Which I found I can have a "decent" trip off of 10mg. BUT, if I were to answer your question I would be taking into account the MANY threads I have read of other members experiences. Something you could try and do. My answer would then be...

15mg

your questions is entirely unanswerable. you didn't even bother to define 'decent'. Even if you had said, as you claim to now have meant, "what low doses of dmt are most effective" that also begs the question "what do you mean by effective?".

There is a crapload of information on this site about low doses of dmt.

Define "decent trip". This part confuses me.

a decient light dmt trip [on lowest dose]..is some colors and paterns wall moving..



Your answer is truthfully unanswerable. The reason why is as follows:


Some people have different tolerances.... ..
[I agree...]

Different Smoking devices provide different results...
[this is also true..]

Experience with said smoking device creates variation in effect..

I have trued extracted DMT 7 times with little results..
I only had a light bulb to vape it in. and just noticed a little wall breathing and small increase in colors and increase in sound .
maybe i just didnt get enough and used too small a dose?
When it finaly grabs a hold of me Ill know it!...
Anyway thanks for your answer friend..

starway6, how many times have you dosed DMT?

I remember a thread you started quite awhile ago when you first appeared on this site. It was you asking if you should dose higher than "a grain of rice". Which I responded by telling you it could be between 1-8mgs, and that you should increase dosage slowly and that you need a scale.

So what did you "actually" do? I assumed you would have increased dosage in some way, but by this post it seems like you are hesitant to "experiment".

Seriously, TRY IT YOURSELF. Only you can answer this question. Some people dont even really like the lower range doses. Some people prefer them. Which one are you? Only you can figure this out.

i love EZ4U2Shoot's attitude, "if you fear nothing then go for broke!" its so true, fear is the mind killer, I believe we attract what we fear and what we fear most, is sometimes, a part of the self we need to overcome, or at least face.

No one else on here seems to be as fearless of the spice as EZ4U2Shoot.

I wish i was the same, ref spice: i fear the unknown, and really negative entities,.

Peace

"I only had a light bulb to vape it in. "

Theres your problem ^

(btw it would really help your posts readability if you use quotes"" or the quote button. I got lost for a minute there. thanks)

Since then i have smoked salvia many times and put DMT on hold...
I used the freezer method to extract White DMT from hostilis bark..
Yes .. back then ..I thought a good DMT dose was the size of a grain of rice and was being carefull to not give myself too large of a dose..
I went up to about two grains of rice in dose size with little effect..
After reading other trip reports it apears that i need more than a grain of rice sized dose? ..
I still need to find a milagram scale..
I was also vaping in a lightbulb at the time..
One time i was vaping the DMT and felt a vibration start at my feet and went upwwards in my body but it stoped quickley..
Maybe it almost worked that time?
I guess I wanted the right dose to get half way there without breaking through as a test of my tolerance for DMTs strong effects..
Im doing just fine with Salvia ..i flow with her just fine 60x..20x...plain leaf..now 7x...
I usually do salvia alone.. and after going through temperary personality fragmentation..on the come up I always feel like i have an audence all all around me studying me!
It feels like im standing in front of the world naked..
Does DMT feel like this?

Good. That means you headed my advice to slowly up dosage. But dont stop there you need to continue on with it.



Amazon. Thats where you find the scale I told you about. it's really cheap.



The stronger the dose the stronger the effects. Since you are fairly experienced with salvia I recommend you UP THAT DOSE on DMT. Your never going to know until you try. And beings that you dont have a scale it seems worthless asking about dose sizes in milligrams. Right?

To put it in a perspective you can understand I would say try 4 rice grains. That should give you a fairly strong experience without knocking your socks off. But again eyeballing wont give you a specific experience (as specific as it gets anyways) so eventually you need to get a scale or get good at eyeballing.



It can. Many of my previous doses I found that I felt like I was being judged. This led me to finally getting the nerve to dose by myself. Now I feel comfortable dosing bymyself, but I also am ok with a friend in the room. But anymore people than this and I start "thinking" too much. I find the experience is a very personal one so instead of people sitting in with me I share my experience afterwards if they wish to hear.

I hope this has been helpful but I urge you to research more on other members experience and experiment with DMT yourself.

This is what you need.

I'm really not trying to promote "going for broke" and even I am not without my fears. The Spice has kicked me in the balls, slapped my arse, beat me with a billy club and tossed me down a well on more than one occasion. But sometimes, this was precisely what I needed. Even an eternity spent in hell, suspended in time and trapped in that single moment was what I needed at that time. In spite of how horribly frightening and terrorizing it was, it was exactly what I personally needed in order to get beyond, and heel from, the emotional wounds that I had at the time. And for that, I am grateful. And because of it's effect in the long run, I believe it to have been a "positive experience" rather than a "bad trip".

What I am actually trying to convey is, "Respect The Spice." and "Know thy self." I know a lot of people might disagree, but If you(not necessarily you specifically) decide not to heed the warnings and start with low doses and instead go for a high dose, then the consequences of your actions are yours alone and you will have no choice but to face them head on. I am absolutely confident that we are neither physically nor mentally capable of smoking enough pure DMT to die from an overdose (injections are another story). So if you(not necessarily you specifically) are actually foolish enough to load 250mg into a vaporizer and smoke it, even after all of the warnings against it, then by all means, go right ahead. Although I believe it is unlikely that you would be able to get through it all, you will most certainly face the consequence of attempting to do so, and that would be all on you and nobody else. I don't think you'll do it a second time. In fact, I would be surprised if you ever smoked any again in your life.

I realize this might raise a few eyebrows, and many people may disagree with this attitude. But in all likelihood, if a person is this foolish, then perhaps the person shouldn't be smoking it in the first place. In fact, if a person really is foolish enough to take such actions in spite of all of the warnings and testimonies, then I believe the person should probably seriously consider checking themselves into a specialized mental hospital first.

I personally believe that The Spice is a very spiritual substance and, at least to some degree, it has a spirit of it's own. I believe that The Spice can be a great and wonderful teacher and even a friend. If you do it right, then you can learn a lot from it. And if you play with it gently, then it will play with you. But The Spice is not just a helpless powder that will lay there and let you completely abuse it. If you hit The Spice, then The Spice will hit you back. And the harder you hit The Spice, the harder it will hit back. And take if from me, The Spice may be small, but it can pack a powerful punch and it has the ability to hit a whole heck of a lot harder than you can.

So in conclusion, if you(not necessarily you specifically) are seriously considering careless and foolish actions, then I plead and beg that you do not. I will be honest and strait forward, it is not out of concern for your personal mental health that I make this plea. I beg you not to do this for purely selfish reasons. Personally, I think it would be a terrible travesty if you(not necessarily you specifically) were to do this and then end up in a hospital suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome and put all of the blame on The Spice, especially when all of the fault would be your own. Additionally, I feel that it would be a crime against spirituality for those of us who use The Spice for more positive ends because, there is no doubt in my mind that, the media and some close minded politicians with their own agendas would take advantage of this to launch a "war on DMT" and boost their own career with such publicity. So, please do not do this, for your sake and ours.

Finally, I would like to acknowledge that this is the more extreme case and I'm not suggesting that anyone is so foolish. Now, if it is something you(not necessarily you specifically) have been considering, then I hope that I have helped to change your mind. On the other end, if you(not necessarily you specifically) understand the risks but you are still seriously considering "larger than typical" doses or "repeated consecutive prolonged" doses, and intend on experimenting regardless, then feel free to PM me. I do have extensive experience with some fairly large doses but I will not encourage it, and in fact I may try to discourage it, especially if you are younger than about 35 or 40. But, regardless of whether or not I specifically discourage such actions, I will answer your questions as thoroughly and honestly as I possibly can. I say this because I firmly believe that knowledge is power and, as the old proverb goes, "even a fool with a little learning is more likely to make a good choice than a wise man with no learning at all".

EDIT: Also, infinitynlove, this is not meant to be a rebuttal or conflict with your post. It is merely meant to be a clarification.

May you find the light, and may the light find you.

And since you made a Dune reference, "The Spice must flow."

Nicely put EZ. And I agree with your post whole heartedly.

It blows my mind how technologically advanced DMT is.

I beg to differ. But it blows my mind how "spiritually" advanced DMT is. I think the technology is thousands of years old. But it is our method of extraction has improved technologically.

But imagine the machine it would require to do the same thing that this single molecule is capable of. Just like our bodies and brains. We are technologically more advanced than what we currently can do.

I saw a video of the biological nano bots that build our DNA. It's incredible. Our body is a little chemical factory. Ill have to find the video and post in somewhere. Good stuff.

I guess from the aspect of Nature, yes I would have to agree. The "Technology of Nature" has always been far beyond the technology of man.