Just watched the Drugs Inc fragment..
Jezus christ, can anyone remember how Nat Geo used to be? Just a few years ago it was full of good shows and interesting documentaries. Now it's the worst kind of commercial sensationalist crap, dumbing mankind down. Discovery Channel was the first to go down this path, Nat Geo followed soon..

Every so often we have a thread about the increased popularity of dmt...then things go silent and then here comes another thread about its popularity. Same discussions were raging about salvia few years back and nothing really happened.

dmt by nature requires some sort of "masochistic dedication" and for this reason alone it will never gain much popularity. Granted, it does sound as very very interesting stuff but few people who tried it are really turned on by it. Hell, we had people who joined the forum full of enthusiasm for it just to declare later that this is just too much for them. Thankfully dmt is not a party drug and very few people derive genuine pleasure from it. I think there was a guy who was smoking dmt while masturbating and was trying to orgasm while peaking and at the same time he was trying to aim his jizz in his mouth?

I think it has to do with DMT: the spirit molecule. It's rather popular on youtube, and maybe word of mouth is causing it to gain some recognition in the mainstream. From there people have no idea what they're experiencing when they get their hands on the stuff, however they go about doing that, and for some reason they think it's a good idea to put their face on youtube, thinking that EVERYBODY has to know about this.


I don't think the government in the united states is trying to put propaganda out there as far as DMT goes, just because in most articles I've read about DMT busts, the comments from authorities are usually attempting to ensure people that DMT has been around for a while and it's use isn't increasing, or something along those lines.

I think if they wanted to scare people away from it, they wouldn't only be attepting to draw attention to it, but also trying to convince the general public that it's some new crazy addictive club drug that all the kids are using. The abbreviation "DMT" itself would probably be enough to convince most people it's some new synthesized crap.

I guess the sonoran song bust ruined the market enough to satisfy them for now.

Maybe not.

This is all speculation, obviously, and should be treated as such.

Ew man, even the idea that I connect to someone else (or everyone else for that) when I take psychedelics is creepy and disgusting.

Good that you hold such thoughts, just do not creep us out. I hate to think that you take psychedelics to connect with me.

i dont understand why people think its some big mystery how dmt has gotten so widely known... The real question is why the heck did it take so long for people to catch on

I can almost gaurantee you, in 20 years the same thing will happen with a different drug, probably one none of us have ever heard of. This happens with basically all thing's as they become increasingly popular. Conspiracy theory or not really.. On the note of conspiracy though, I do tend to think "the powers that be" e.g. the rich billionaires who do actually control most of the media and public view, don't want us experiencing these things at all.

Because you speak for all billionaires and know their thoughts?

Funny, I was under the impression the Freemasons funded Strassman's initial studies. While not all billionaires, they sure hold some power in government and US law. Wasn't it also the FDA who approved the studies? And a unanimous ruling by the US Supreme Court in favor of Ayahuasca use? Bohemian Grove anyone?

Hrmm, facts. What a strange thing to bring into the discussion.

The Spirit Molecule making it to Netflix has been a huge factor in the increased interest in the molecule recently. It's very easily accessible, anyone with an internet connection can get hold of the necessary materials and figure out how to extract it. It's popping up everywhere in the dance community, you'd be hard pressed to find a rave or festival where the sweet smell of indole is not wafting on the breeze. It's also such a profound experience, people understandably want to talk about it and share it with others.

I've found it really interesting to watch hyperspace infiltrate the mass cultural consciousness over the past several years and I'm excited to see where it leads. It's very obviously had a massive impact on art and music and continues to influence more and more people every day. I understand that many of us view this substance as sacred and want to keep it a closely guarded secret, but that is no longer an option imo. For better and for worse, dmt is in the spotlight and we are only just beginning to see the first effects of this powerful tool entering the collective imagination.

Me thinks we are in for an exciting ride.

P.S. - On the conspiracy aspect of things, Jan Irvin seems to be pretty well convinced that whole psychedelic movement and the popularization of psychedelics to the public in the late 50's early 60's was a plot fully dreamed up and executed by the global elite.

Not to mention that nowadays one can watch Spirit Molecule on Hulu for free. I wonder how many go on to read the book, a fantastic document.

I wonder what would happen if more people started having breakthroughs? More people would start to meditate?

should start a coalition to bring down adam vs the dmt

i still blame joe rogan

also what IS the nexus' policy on conspiracy fact?

There are no conspiracy facts, if enough facts are known that unequivocally uncover a conspiracy, then this conspiracy is a mere plot.

Now, how about just leaving the word conspiracy out of the discussion?

NO CONSPIRACY THEORIES ON THE NEXUS!

which translates to no conspiracy theories on the nexus.

which also roughly equivalent to no conspiracy theories on the nexus

aren't those synonyms synonymous?

if not, what about "plotting" theories?
"i assure you, sir, there are no conspiracy theories here, merely theories of plotting"

So, the Nexus will not facilitate a forum for creative conspiracy theory? It seems to me that facts arise first from theory and spice is ripe for all sorts of theories. Someone gets inspired by some of the theories and actually gets the funding required to test. I am completely intrigued with What If theories surrounding this molecule, do not think they should be shunned completely.

No.

And what he said below.

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Ah, you got me there

Now, NO CONSPIRACY THEORIES!


Theories, yes.

Conspiracy theories, NO!

Now, since every moderators' command is to be taken as a direct royal proclamation, it needs to be treated as such. So, NO CONSPIRACY THEORIES!

If a person cannot be here without being able to rant about conspiracy theories then the Nexus is not the right place for that person.

There are MANY other places on the internet where you can dive right into these things with like-minded folks.

I personally don't know if I ever would have heard of DMT were it not for Joe Rogan, so I have him to thank. You can all blame him for me being a part of your community

It's the snowball effect. DMT is gaining more popularity because more people know about it and they talk about it and spread it to others. Like a fractal. Simple. Terrence McKenna seemed to get the ball rolling and others kept it going. Joe Rogan is quite outspoken about it and I'm sure he peaked a lot of curiosity in recent times. I heard about DMT through Erowid and then started the hunt to find it. The Internet really got it going, but the early Internet wasn't well suited for a discussion about obscure drugs, today's culture is. The ball is rolling and I see no sign of it stopping.

Also am I the only person around here that likes Adam vs DMT and Joe Rogan? (please don't ban me, it's just my opinion, lol)