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Does DMT Become 'Easier' with Experience? Options
 
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#21 Posted : 12/3/2012 4:10:43 PM

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From what I've read and heard, the LD50 of DMT is way higher than anything you could feasibly reach. So OD death is not a real possibility. Correct me if I'm wrong. Someone harming himself on a high dose? Personally I don't see how one could even walk, but it's possible I guess. I don't mean put in tons of spice and try and smoke it all. That's reckless and pointless. Smoking too much might be too intense, but it seems to me at least that the sensations that correspond to the hit your on are a pretty good indicator of whether to take one more or put it down. It doesn't really seem possible to accidentally smoke significantly more than is necessary. You've got maybe 15 seconds from your first big hit and it just doesn't allow you to 'overdose.' Again, and maybe I didn't make this clear in the post you cited, I only smoked this way for myself and don't recommend it to others who can measure a dose. Please tell me if I'm wrong. I don't intend to maintain opinions that aren't correct if I can help it...

In some ways you are correct and others not so much. Yes the LD-50 of dmt is higher than one could vaporize before blacking out but there are things worse than death so to speak.

It is still possible to hurt yourself on high doses. I came to in a different room once and had zero recollection how I got there. That was eye opening.

Where I totally disagree with your above post is it is completely possible and quite easy to administer far too big of hits or too many. DMT doesn't have a built in regulator.

As far as not weighing doses I'm with you on that. I never weigh doses I count hits but more I can usually tell when to put the pipe down from years of experience. I wrote a whole thread on counting hits maybe you may find helpful.
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#22 Posted : 12/3/2012 4:15:00 PM

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Coming down and finding myself in a different place would be awful. I'm amazed to hear that can happen. DMT trip-walking. That's dangerous. Do you lie down with your eyes closed?
 
#23 Posted : 12/3/2012 4:23:43 PM
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HERE https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/d...aspx?g=posts&t=33032

I've been smoking dmt (changa/freebase) since early 09, hundreds of journeys as many here have been through. This experience above was so insanely intense and 'different' that I thought something had happened. It was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE DMT IN ANY WAY. It will put your consciousness where it chooses I feel. The only control for me is realizing that I have no control..and to just let it all go

 
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#24 Posted : 12/3/2012 4:34:35 PM

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Thanks Tattvamasi,

My first DMT breakthrough was similar to that ultimate experience you had. Maybe I didn't go as far, but it affected me in very similar ways. I agree it's not just 'hallucinations.'
 
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#26 Posted : 12/3/2012 11:24:56 PM

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When DMT was new to me, like my 7th experience, my friend and I decided to go big. We wanted breakthroughs and thought that a big dose was the only way to have one. We had planned on doing 60mg each. I made it to 45mg but couldn't talk myself into going any higher. He took almost the entire 60mg and broke through indeed. He didn't get the experience he thought he would though, his was a good learning experience but scary and sad as well. It shook him up. He wasn't the same for around two weeks. I was sure he wasn't going to dose again.

He came out of it eventually, but had the attitude that DMT wasn't for him. He has since dosed many times and has had many awesome experiences. We took mushrooms last summer and something about the fire reminded him of his bad DMT trip. I could tell it was hard to deal with.

My first breakthrough was with 20mg. I've had multiple breakthroughs on 15mg, 20, 25, and most recently 28mg. This to me is why measuring is important. I've dosed without measuring as well. But this way I can fine tune it and get the sweet spot. 25-28mg seems to be it with my current device.

Going big is not always the best route. It seems it has been the cause of more bad DMT trips by members on this forum. Usually new people.

Since my first breakthrough, my pre dose anxiety has lessened quite substantially. Partially due to the fact that I dose in automation. I'm moving my body, loading and vaporizing without much thought, while feeling some anxiety. Before it was difficult to talk myself into dosing. It's fairly easy for me now. I have great respect for DMT but in a nonchalant way. I don't hold it in high regard but I am fairly traditional in how I use it. I think it doesn't astonish me as much now, well it does just differently. M in it for the experience and it is a great tool. And looking at it in the way I do has helped ease my nervousness.
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