Guys, I really love this thread.

Ultimate Reality... why, it is one of those terms which can lead to a whirlwind of conflicting ideologies and conceptual projections, all butting heads and jamming up against one another. But no... what I've read thus far shows a respectful and harmonious interplay of ideas. Refreshingly so, you folks totally rock!!!

Were I hard-pressed to label one perceptual picture of reality as an "Ultimate", I think I would rather turn the very propensity for human reasoning and quantification, end over end into the Void, than set my limited belief upon any conceptual picture of an Uber-reality. Mostly I feel so because any paradigm can be superseded by another, more evolved or perhaps complete, more expanded one.

There is obviously no limit to the expansion of knowledge or understanding. Well, other than the ones we mentally create by ourselves, by said fixation on interpreting the universal in our own relative terms. Psychedelics truly blow the doors off any conceptual formatting. Thoughts once well organized and logically codified, suddenly turn into comic confetti... and one is behooved to release control and flow with the ever-changing current

That being said, when we solidify into "normal" rational beings, post peaking/re-entry level modality, we find ourselves back in the realm of subject and object. The transformative experience of oneness within the Unified Field of Being has become an epiphany, an idea, a remembrance, a challenge to our reasoning capacity (and that's quite the understatement).

So, is the ultimate state one in which we understand that we are dreaming and that our individuality was wholly an illusion? That we do not consciously exist within an ultimate reality at all, given that the Absolute is the greater counterpoint of the relative vantage point (our own) and it's small range of perceptual reception?

I humbly believe that by not grasping at the truth, we are the very closet to it. For when we shift our conscious-awareness to that empty center, we suddenly interphase within the effulgent Grid. We witness our own eclipsing within the Omniversal vibration. Releasing all attachment, each facade of reality is dissolved by the boundaries of it's existential definition. Simply put, when we stop holding all of these ideals as reality, nothing is left to be cognizant of.

Within such a void of ideas, awareness blooms and shatters the framework of the Egoself and it's domain, save the radiant energy of the Tao. What has been labeled as: Ahura Mazda, Brahman, Aten, Yahweh, God, Allah, etc... That which pulses throughout this multiverse at play and exists as the matrix of the Unified Field of Being. Granted these are conceptual definitions and not he ultimate reality or the Sacred state. That by virtue of necessity, calls us to be merge into it's vortex and become integrated, wholly.

Paradoxically, we have an organic urge to habitually proclaim ultimatums about "The Truth". Now, there is undeniably a force which indeed appears to be Omniscient. Ironically, we cannot observe it and be it at the same point in awareness. When we intentionally cast aside our subjective need for quantification,l we are introduced to a realm beyond labels, definitions or even comprehension.

IMO, the Infinite is not to be grasped, it is to be attuned to. Only within the fulcrum of deep, internal silence, can the tone of the Word be heard ringing throughout creation. This carries our attention higher and higher and higher...

In it's universality, it encompasses all that potentially exists, will exist at some point with the time-space-continuum and shall still remains enigmatically unborn and completely unlimited by manifestation or any fixation to form or dimension. Or so I think, when I am in thinking modality. Essentially, when my mind is spinning like a top and churning out ideologies and conceptualizations.

Cheers All, dream a good dream.