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Possible long term lung damage from vaporized DMT Options
 
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#21 Posted : 10/6/2012 1:02:52 AM

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It sounds like I may just have to get one of these GVG devices. Forgive me for my naivety but what are they exactly??


Glass Vapor Genie...a bit expensive but worth every penny in that it doesn't burn the Spice and you will use alot less. Best $100 you will ever spend if you plan on a long-term relationship with DMT. If your just experimenting short-term, probably not worth it...although you could use it to vaporize MJ....that would be easier on your lungs as well...
 

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#22 Posted : 10/6/2012 1:11:26 AM
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JacksonMetaller wrote:
Can someone explain the whole DMT being basic thing. I'm not very far into my chem and bio courses so I don't really know how specifically this effects the lungs. Ie, what does it do exactly and how serious is it?



Basic is the opposite of acidic...

-an example of a base is lye it has a very high ph
-an example of an acid is HCL it has a very low ph

-so basic means that it falls below a certain ph level
-acidic means it is measured above a certain ph level

alk means base in latin I believe so an alkaloid is by very nature basic or alkaline

mescaline for example also burns a bit...infact all phynethlamines burn like hell if you try to snort them for example



I really doubt DMT alkalinity is serious, more of a mild irritant if you ask me...

I would like to add however that I believe smoking spice through water helps alot...
have also noticed that smoking spice through an oil burner for years was hard on my teeth's enamel
this is part of the reason I have switched to bongs


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#23 Posted : 10/6/2012 1:57:37 AM
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Thanks man Very happy I already kind of knew what acid/base was. I'm just not quite sure how they affect the body so much.
 
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#24 Posted : 10/6/2012 2:10:35 AM
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Thanks man Very happy I already kind of knew what acid/base was. I'm just not quite sure how they affect the body so much.



oh sorry I didn't mean to give you "too basic" of a lesson



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Neutral -but seriously I didn't mean to underestimate your knowingness
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#25 Posted : 10/6/2012 2:59:55 AM
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LOL nice! It's alright dude. This isn't a pride thing. You answered very well. I was just hoping someone could provide a little more specifics on the effects on the body. I guess if they were so predictable we'd have more info on DMT health effects anyway so oh well Sad
 
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#26 Posted : 10/6/2012 3:36:09 AM

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DMT makes me very aware of how smoking stuff affects your lungs. If you burn things and breath the smoke it's bad for your lungs. Cannabis might be good for your lungs if vaporised but don't try to tell me it's good for your lungs to smoke it. It's never good for your lungs to inhale smoke.

I've quit smoking for long periods and then I hardly feel the DMT vapour. But as soon as I've started to smoke again, be it cannabis or cigarettes I can hardly inhale DMT vapour. It's like DMT show's me what I'm doing to my lungs by smoking.

SMOKING IS BAD FOR YOUR LUNGS! No matter what you smoke.
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#27 Posted : 10/6/2012 4:17:28 AM

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#28 Posted : 10/6/2012 4:45:09 AM

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I had heard a similar statement that "smoking weed was good for your lungs" and when I quizzed the source a bit more, they clarified that they heard it was "a bit of a bronchodilator that improved oxygen uptake briefly...". So that was third hand info, and does not constitute fact, therefore, and is still not 'beneficial' in my book.

I am an asthmatic, at times bad with multiple meds, and at times med free. I usually smoke a bit of weed before bed to sleep, but stopped recently before a surgery to clear my system. My lungs have been great, even in this high allergen time of year. But by golly, once I started smoking a tiny bit this last few days, my lungs are affected- cough, phlegm, irritation. Is it the hash? Maybe. But what I'm getting at is that allowing your lungs a break, to clear, can help you figure out what the culprit is. If you smoke multiple herbs/tobacco, and vape DMT, how can you know what is causing the burn? Sure the gunk tastes like DMT, but what if the weed is irritating, creating the mucus which in turn traps the DMT vape, which you then cough up and taste?

When my asthma is bad, or my lungs inflamed/burning, anything makes them hurt- dust, allergens (pollen, horse dust, mowing), smoking... And I cough, and ther's crap coming up... In order to stop it all, I have to use inhaled anti-inflammatories... so once inflammation starts, it doesn't just go away or stop very quickly. So, maybe be a bit more kind to your lungs for a bit, let them heal, try to stop smoking for a bit, save your $ and get a GVG... Add only one thing at a time, protecting your lungs as best as possible in between sessions.

Since I am reading as much as I can these days here on the site, I'm getting a much clearer picture of whether DMT vape would be okay for me from a physiological standpoint (at this point, I'm thinking 'No'Pleased. I've had a very light intro to Aya, and it seemed to suit me- now thanks to the drug interactions thread posted today by nen888 (thank you!), I know which of my arsenal of asthma, allergy, body ache meds that I use at times now should be avoided before during and after Aya use. Lessons to learn, since my experiences with other psychedelics/rec drugs have shown me just how sensitive my system really is.

So a question, is there really no extraction solvents left in the crystals? I read someone noted the "mothball" smell, that's naphtha... Should you ever smell or taste that if the crystals are clean and pure? I can't imagine these chems can be good for your lungs.
 
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#29 Posted : 10/6/2012 10:00:47 PM

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#30 Posted : 10/7/2012 1:46:29 AM

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Gosh no, I hope I didn't give you that impression. Several other people did state that they thought smoking weed was healing for the lungs. Speaking from my experience, if my lungs are irritated and I am ingesting multiple things that might bother them, I personally need to back off and let them heal up. When they feel better, I smoke again. I know it's not great for them, but I do try to take care of them.

That's all I'm saying, is that if anyone's lungs feel yucky, listen to that, and take care of them. Don't continue on the assault.
 
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#31 Posted : 10/7/2012 4:36:27 AM

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i suspect it's all the other smoke, cigs and weed.. not the D. I used to puff daily and had the tight chest thing, infact i would get sharp pains in my lungs... i quit and it took quite a while for those sensations to go away.... obviously, quit the cigs... nasty shit, my humble opinion.. and vape everything you smoke, including the herb. I'm putting my money on the fact that you'll be A ok Smile
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#32 Posted : 9/25/2018 9:55:24 PM

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I have the same problem, long story short I believe it's from SWIMS Last extraction, HE didn't recrystallize the spice and he thinks there may have been left over Lye in his product..
 
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#33 Posted : 9/25/2018 10:12:58 PM

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I have the same problem, long story short I believe it's from SWIMS Last extraction, HE didn't recrystallize the spice and he thinks there may have been left over Lye in his product..
Before freezing the naphtha, wash the loaded non polar with a water layer that has a pinch of sodium carbonate in it. The water layer takes on the potential residual lye. A basic water wash is all it needs, separate layers and freeze away Thumbs up
(there is a tek that even uses distilled/demin water to wash the non polar, but wash it very brief then in order no not loose spice in that water.)
 
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