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blazinskillz
#21 Posted : 9/27/2012 8:27:28 PM
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Interesting. I don't think I have it in me to try lsd though
 

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#22 Posted : 9/27/2012 9:11:54 PM

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Toloache wrote:

On the other hand, mushrooms kicked my ass. I tryed them long after LSD, growth them myself. I suppose im a bit influenced by the plant ally thing, and shamanism and such, so maybe this influence my set and almost everytime with shrooms i have rough eperience, with purging,emotional discomfort, personal confrontation and such.


<grin> From my view, that's the medicine! My experience with mushrooms is that they take one exactly to where one needs to go... and often that can be uncomfortable until we clean up our mess. It's also easy to get caught up in resistance, ego, mind, etc.

Rough experience might also have something to do with where the mushrooms came from, how they were grown, intentions that were put into them (even inadvertently).

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So in the end, it all boil down to the fear and expectation you have IMO


I don't think it all boils down to that... I think there are real differences between substances, and you bring more to the experience than surface set.
 
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#23 Posted : 9/27/2012 9:49:28 PM
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Lagomorph wrote:

So in the end, it all boil down to the fear and expectation you have IMO


I don't think it all boils down to that... I think there are real differences between substances, and you bring more to the experience than surface set. [/quote]

Yeah, off course there are difference beetween substances, but i was answering more at the OP question. You cant say if this substance or that substance is better, or not better, or if you do one and all go well, the other will be the same.. It depends on set and settings, on expectations and fears, and of course on the objective effects of the drugs.

But in a general sense i know there's a lot more than this. Or i should say i "believe" there is a lot more than this Pleased
 
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#24 Posted : 9/27/2012 9:55:04 PM
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Lagomorph wrote:

<grin> From my view, that's the medicine! My experience with mushrooms is that they take one exactly to where one needs to go... and often that can be uncomfortable until we clean up our mess. It's also easy to get caught up in resistance, ego, mind, etc.

Rough experience might also have something to do with where the mushrooms came from, how they were grown, intentions that were put into them (even inadvertently).


Yeah... That exactly what happens to me on shrooms, they focus me on an issue, they take me down to the biggest desperation, then when they feel i had learned they give me a blissfull comedown. This would happen only with the shrooms i growth myself tough. With some psylocibe semilanceata i found in the mountains the vibe was different, it was more a "let's look at the landscape in awe" sort of thing Smile
 
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#25 Posted : 9/27/2012 11:15:13 PM

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blazinskillz wrote:
Interesting. I don't think I have it in me to try lsd though

That's hilarious because I think I don't have it in me to do mushrooms again!
LSD is wonderful but can be rough. I've had so many amazing trips, no bad ones, just 2 trips where it was a little bit of work to keep sane .

Might sound strange but I'd say every time I've smoked DMT on LSD its made my LSD trip less intense and more smooth if it wasn't already going that way.
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#26 Posted : 9/27/2012 11:50:24 PM
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Its not the drug that creates the bad trip its the mind state you are in before and under the influence of the medicine. Much of this can be controlled with correct setting and doing it when you feel good about this is right for you at this time.
 
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#27 Posted : 9/28/2012 12:23:17 AM

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glennwiz wrote:
Its not the drug that creates the bad trip its the mind state you are in before and under the influence of the medicine. Much of this can be controlled with correct setting and doing it when you feel good about this is right for you at this time.


I find set/setting theory to be incredibly inconsistent in my personal experience. Some of my most amazing experiences have come out of some pretty terrible mental spaces when I've been run-down, exhausted and irritable. Likewise I've had terrible experiences where I went into it feeling completely clear, lucid and good with good intentions. There is a certain X factor to the experience. A variable (or more likely a handful of them) that seem to throw to the wind any and all expectations you establish, including those regarding set/setting.
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