That pipe looks pretty decent. SWIM is low on budget at the moment so will be sticking to what SWIM already has. In the future that looks like a very good upgrade. Do you think a glass Water Bong would take any of the spice from the smoke making it less potent?

I don't have experience with other methods so I couldn't really say. Perhaps someone else could answer this question. I imagine quite a bit of the spice would recrystallize due to being rapidly cooled by the water; maybe it would be better to use it without water. It's also important that the flame does not contact the spice directly.

Very good point, and props for even thinking of that lol, make sense though. My friend has a Volcano vaporizer. Maybe I can use that. Otherwise probably a light bulb. Your damn helpful. I wish I could smoke you some of this persang haze from subcool seeds.

WOOT!! Swim gettin paid tonight. Time to order the Mimosa. Swim is overly excited. Swim has done Lsd many of time's in his earlier days, but realizes DMT is a whole other level. Does anyone have any words of wisdom to help swim prepare for space travel. Swim seems a little nervous. XD

Any attempt to mentally control the experience will end in stress and disappointment. These words of advice, repeated prior to blastoff, have served me well: Relax, mentally LET GO and allow the spice to take you where it may. Accept what you see and feel without judgment.

Others may have differing opinions but I believe it's best to start at a low dose and bring it up from there.

yeah, swim always says something along the lines of "Show me what you've got to show me"
or "OK: Lets see what there is to be seen." or something like that.

One time, SWIM decided "Yeah! Lets see the happy little elves!" and they turned it around and said: "oh, the happy little elves EH?!" and that was quite a freaky little trip. but clearly, just a warning and not designed to terrify.

Sometimes also, if you have a negative experience, its better to just get back on the horse and try again shortly after rather than brooding on it - that is, if there was no obvious lesson to be learned.

Haha thanks for the advice guys, kinda along the lines of what I was planning already.

I have been looking into a Bufo extraction. 69ron seems to have it mostly figured out, but swim still waiting for some pictures and replys for the results from people attemting the extraction.

Has any of you extracted bufotenine sucessfully before, and If so what tek did you use?

bufotenine is not something you want to rush off and try to extract..its much more difficult to do than extracting dmt...and its even more difficult to try and purify it..SWIM has been working with it for awhile..and still has trouble here and there getting it to purify correctly..plus when impure..its not the nicest smoke...

so far with impure bufotenine..these are the results from bio assays...

first time smoking larger dose of impure bufotenine...take a big hit..then he passed out for two hours...

second time smoking large doese of impure bufotenine...take a big hit...then vomited..quite profusely for a minute..then nausea stopped..and dmtish OEV's started...not exactly too impressive..vomiting doesnt help

third time smoked some while coming down from a T. bridgesii trip...smoked small amount and finally got some really sweet visuals..and felt wonderful(this has been tried out by 69ron's FOAF and he had the opposite reaction)

took 55mg thh + 300mg theobromine(both of these are vasodilators..bufotenine can cause some pretty harsh vascular constriction and isnt very pleasant) smoked bufotenine..and for 2 hours watched worms squiggle in front of his closed eyes...he opened his eyes just to see better visuals vanish...

smoked a smallish amount of fairly pure bufotenine..got some dmtish OEV's..


now SWIM has also tried snorting slightly impure bufotenine...first time 50mg..25mg up each nostril...puked pretty severely and then..he cant remember what happened next...he was also fairly drunk at that point

snorted slightly impure bufotenine..20mg..got some slight head tension..slight vascular constriction..and slight CEV

overall..its been interesting..but it seems hit or miss..oh and one time while on acid..he smoked bufotenine and dmt...this resulted in some amazing OEV's the room morphed into different rooms..it was like the wallpaper was changing...

SWIM has yet to get visuals described by 69ron..but hes not going to give up..he knows the potential is there..but he just needs some super pure bufo..and also it reacts very very differently for everyone..so make sure you really test it out before giving anybody a large dose..because it can get rather uncomfortable at time if impure

Thank you Jorkest. I will wait until the pro's have developed a tried and true method then. I will have to settle for DMT first.. not that that is necessarily a bad thing XD

Settle for DMT? Nigga, stop playin'!

lol, haahaha... Its just bufo seems a little less intimidating until I read the side effects experienced by Jorkest. There are a lot of people who prefer clean Bufo to DMT because there is apparently no "mind fuck" just visuals which I'm sure id enjoy very much. Im not saying anything bad about DMT other than I am a little intimidated. I have only had one bad acid trip out of over I'm guessing 75+ trips, and It was not fun. I can only imagine a bad trip on DMT dwarfs anything lsd could produce. Anyways, Im not here to bash DMT in any way, I am in fact very interested in having the experience.

I thought of another way you could prepare: do some jogging or get on the exercise bike

DMT is quite demanding of the cardiovascular system. Anything you can do to strengthen it will help propel your mind into hyperspace without undue body load. I suspect some bad trips may be due to the body's inability to respond adequately to the demands placed on it, with resulting fatigue and dysphoria.

SWIM ordered the MHRB. Hope the source is good. FYI Secret Herbals off ebay is the supplier..

Supposedly:

Top quality MIMOSA HOSTILIS INNER ROOT BARK powder "Purple-Pink"



"This is 100% pure MHRB powder from thick and mature inner MHRB

Fresh and Powerful / 100% guarantee!"


SWIM EXCITED!

The only thing demanding about DMT on the cardivascular system is when your heart is racing because you know you're about to do it again SWIM finds DMT to be most gentle on the body.

BTW: SWIM's glad you got the pre-powdered jurema, he says it will improve your yeilds over bark strips (Which ISHO, he says is a pain in the ass to grind.)

Double awesome XD

I think you're right. It's like standing at the end of the highest diving platform and looking down just as you're about to jump..

sentient, here's a couple of links to help tide you over until the goods arrive check out this video, it's an interesting display of some dmt-inspired artwork.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1KEe0g7qUI

some terence mckenna + fractals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4LKz9zxgVM

I found the essay Tryptamine Hallucinogens and Consciousness by Terence McKenna to be very enlightening. He gives a great sense of the infinite possibilities of DMT.

Interesting essay. He says a few things I don't understand or agree with but he definitely has a interesting way of describing the DMT experience.

I love this Forum...

I have always been inspired by psychedelic artistry. Salvador Dhali being my all time favorite. There are definitely some nice pieces on the vid thank you for sharing.


Terence McKenna: A true pioneer. His experiences sound very intense, and his perception of the experience/s are very intellectual in my opinion. WOW.

SWIM is having a hard time with anxiety. SWIM wishes we had teleportation technology so SWIM could just get his MHRB now. Who knows, maybe a few trips and SWIM will have the technology figured out. XD


I have been doing a lot of research on the pineal gland. Very amazing organ. If anyone is interested I could post some links that are relevant to that discussion.

This is another McKenna trip description... good stuff
http://www.erowid.org/cu..._terence_time_mind.shtml

Please post those links about the pineal gland.