I don’t want to influence anyone’s decision but I will say that ever since my introduction to psychedelics years ago that I seem to attract children and animals everywhere I go for no apparent reason. They just start following me around and/or laughing smiling purring etc etc.

I was curious if there was any correlation between the two.

My tentative hypothesis is that children and animals aren’t as bogged down by “facts” and “truths” and therefore are more open in their perceptions; analogous to an experience one might have while on a psychedelic.


hmm seems like my poll questions got cut short. The endings are "on the regular" and "regularly"

very interesting post, i also think small children and animals have some strong correlation with psychedelics. This is all speculation but I think when we were little kids we were all tripping our heads off, natural constant dmt production perhaps, i think as we reach a certain age, perhaps a part of the brain develops that closes off other parts of the brain and more controlled natural dmt production when awake and our ego gets developed. Since with dmt we tend to not remember strong trips or dreams, myb thats y we don't remember our early childhood.With animals i have noticed every time ive taken psychedelics, my pet dog has reacted differently to me. Usually he is kind of distant and not too affectionate, but after a good dose of shrooms or aya, he is all over me and i feel there is a strong telepathic connection with him. I believe animals are able to see energy, there senses are enhanced way beyond ours-smell, hearing..and i think they are able to see way more than we can.

The most specific example I've seen of this is outside with a small group of friends smoking in a prairie of grass and bushes. We all had a pretty intense trip, but the miracle was as we were coming down, hundreds of insects had gathered and landed on our bodies. There were no insects around when we started, and they flew away shortly after the effects faded. We weren't bit by anything and we took it as a highly spiritual moment.

(Think of the movie Avatar when the seeds of Eywa land all over Jake Sully's avatar body to protect him.)

I think that a person who has had-and properly integrated- the psychedelic experience will be happier, more easygoing, less burdened and(by extension) less angry and more fun. Children and animals sense this stuff easily- its adults who have been trained to wear blinders and follow rules.

I never spent much time around children before my awakening, so it's hard to make a direct comparison. Would they have liked me less back then? Probably... But for a whole variety of reasons. I do think that having the psychedelic understanding has helped make me a more approachable and likable person, but they are only part of a bigger and more complicated picture.

Children and animals absolutely love me Insects even. Seems sometimes when I'm walking through the woods or even my local park that the plants themselves are aware of my presence somehow, and then I usually try to convince myself I'm just being crazy

I've had many telepathic experiences with animals while tripping, but who knows if any of it was truly some sort of a connection.

I seem to get on well with both children and adults. Not sure to what degree that is to do with my use of psychedelics, but I'm sure it comes into play.

this post resonates with me tripping on LSD around my dog and cat has yielded some very telepathic connections. and yeah i reckon thats an interesting point about dmt production in the younger years and not being able to remember them now. would certainly explain a few things

Its interesting that of all places your cat likes to lay on your head...

Mystics say that all your chakras open up and then its your crown chakra (on your head) that ultimately leads to a connection with the universe/godhead.

Idk if any of that hew-ha is legit or not but I'm not going to be close minded and immediately dismiss it as foolish non-sense. For anyone to make a claim that one thing is 100% fact is ignorant. Laws and conditions dictating a true are subject to quantum change.

I'm sure I got this mosquito super high one time while up in the mountains on mushrooms. I was in a very loving place, so I totally welcomed the little bugger onto my arm. He was really gently as he started poking his needle snout into me; I barely felt a thing. Then he started to take these big ole gulps, and I could see each one ripple through his whole body. Then he would settle down and seemingly relax into an ecstatic trance for a while. He'd slowly start to stir after a minute, then aggressively go back in for some more me-juice. Finally he slowly pulled his needle out, then happily flew around me for like five more minutes. He didn't leave any sort of mark, and it wasn't itchy at all.

When I was much younger I had a weekly paper route(daily was too much effort as far as I was concerned) and several of the streets eventually ended up with most of the cats waiting for me to arrive and pet / play with them for a bit before moving on. Took me ages to complete the route because I loved cats and they seemed to love me, but dang, great time!

Yes, though I'm sure this is just due to their ability to sense an alpha male.

kids (especially babies - they will stare at me wide eyed for the entirety of my presence) feel comfortable and natural around me but i cant really identify with them once they have learned to speak (babies i do feel natural around, however).

animals i have always been connected to, but i have noticed a lot more connectivity and affection from their end than ever before using entheogens (even if its a new animal i have never met).

Absolutely! My friends were just commenting this the other day, kids just run up and start playing with me and when people are walking their dogs the dogs always stop to smell me or jump up on me and the owners have to pull them away. It was never like this before either...

I find this very true for me. Even met a few "magical creatures" along my journey.

But is it:

A- One is being more lighthearted and connected to the universe which others (especially the empathetic) can pick up on, and thus join in the mood.

(Swim has seen a similar phenomena, if someone is on ecstasy others seem to strongly pick up on that and get a contact high)

B- The animal senses you are in a state they can more relate with. I think with cats this is especially true. If any animal lives in a consciousnesses that is close to the psychedelic one, its the cat!

Or C-
When one is tripping, he/she tends to pay more attention to the cat and start talking to it funny which amuses the animal.

C is the one that makes me ponder how much of A & B there really is.

i can't speak for others but i own no pets, so i have never really been with animals or kids WHILE tripping, its just since i have started these connections have blatantly strengthened

Most definitely. I'll see small babies being carried over their mothers shoulders and they'll look up at me and start smiling. Makes my day. Also, many dogs used to not like me very much barking when I arrived and stuff. Since my regular psychedelic use I'm instantly best friends with everyone I meet.

Also, has anyone noticed that like toddlers are always finding stuff they think is pretty neat than going and handing it off to mom or dad, or some other random person around the room? Always so giving. Full of energy. Would be sweet to go back to that state.

Same 4 me, it's beautiful
These are the bases for a science that c.g. Jung started to draw many years ago, things that zulu shamans knows from who knows when...
Oh, how would be fantastic if more people understand this...

I find this to be pretty much true for me as well. But, it's been with me my whole life.
Way before I even knew about psychedelics, or could spell that word, the youngest children in the families I knew, and usually all their pets, always wanted to be around me. And not just the usual, who's that new person approach, that would come and go, and they'd still be stuck to me.

Everywhere I went.
Never really put much thought into it.

Once, I was smoking some bud, playin some hacky sack, and this giant Preying Mantis came up to us. He landed on my car, and just hung out, for maybe an hour. We ended up leaving.. and this big ass dude managed to find his way into the car too.(Windows open and all.. who woulda thought). We smoked somemore, and I'd like to think he got high too. Pawing his way around the car all goofy life.

I got back home, and put him on the roof of the car, so he could fly away after he came back down.

We went back to the spot the next day to hack somemore, and no less then ten minutes pass, and there's a giant mantis on my hood. Same damn one too. One of his wing covers was chipped at the bottom, so it almost made a sharp point downwards.

He followed me(my car?) around for days, until it started getting real cold out.

But, ever since that year, I'll find Mantis' all over the place. Usually directly in my path, needing me to touch them to move.

I have hundreds of bugs living with me right now, mostly for feeding my bearded dragon, and they're always doing just fine, never dieing off, unless he gets hungry, of course.

I guess what I'm saying, is that, I, go hand-in-hand, with psychedelics, and, with the more innocent(truthful) creatures of this world. And bugs, too.

Heh YES, but they always have, before and after the introduction to mind altering substances. They talk to me, and I to them... we understand each other, with or without drugs.