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A discussion on Death Options
 
Para
#21 Posted : 1/22/2012 7:39:37 AM

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I totally agree with reincarnation theory.
Our sols are thrown in the physical plan of manifestation, where we learn our lessons, pay our debts, ...
We came here with a given life energy and we need to try to make the most of it for our evolution (or not).

When this life comes to and end our souls go a subtle plan
of manifestation were we see the real truth about this past physical existence, the real good and bad things we did,
and we start to prepare for the next 'life'.

So death is just a continuation, a new start in the next stage of our evolution as being.
 

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#22 Posted : 1/23/2012 1:37:46 AM

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I believe reincarnation sounds good... but not in the typical sense, but in a more physical sense. As far as I know the only things that exist are in this realm such as our bodies, brains, and consciousness... which makes them all completely natural. So death (the brain stops functioning, etc) is purely physical, yet you'll be "reincarnated" in a purely physical sense. The quote in my signature is what I'm trying to get at. We are made up of the same materials and the rest of the universe so when we die it will be NO different than when we are living except the energy bouncing around in our brain won't be there. We're made up of the elements of the universe now and will be when we die, then these elements will travel, in the lifetime of the universe, all throughout the universe to distant galaxies, to the rain, to the dirt, to the rivers, to the nebulas... and that is why death is (in some sense) beautiful.

However, since I am human I won't be as brave as I may have lead some to believe from above. I thought I was dying one night on DXM (a no good substance) and I pondered death... this is what I felt: loneliness, from leaving my family and friends... but not very much sadness at all.

I've pondered death since then, and since I also believe my first paragraph then I find comfort in knowing that when I die I'll be ALL AROUND EVERYONE I LOVE, more so than I could at any time while living (though I may not be "aware" of it once dead).

But with this philosophy I believe I will find a sense of calming comfort when finally faced with death.
“Recognize that the very molecules that make up your body, the atoms that construct the molecules, are traceable to the crucibles that were once the centers of high mass stars that exploded their chemically rich guts into the galaxy, enriching pristine gas clouds with the chemistry of life. So that we are all connected to each other biologically, to the earth chemically and to the rest of the universe atomically. That’s kinda cool! That makes me smile and I actually feel quite large at the end of that. It’s not that we are better than the universe, we are part of the universe. We are in the universe and the universe is in us.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
 
Ashif Tar
#23 Posted : 1/23/2012 2:50:11 AM

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There is a blind spot in reality that we cannot see. We cannot think toward it, we can't imagine it, we can't speculate and write words that approximate it.

Infinity, Gods, Dimensions, Spirits, these are all linguistic coping mechanisms. Even words like ineffable or unknowable fall short of what this (thing) is.

Here's an experiment. Hold both arms straight out in front of you, with index fingers pointed up. Stare at the points of your fingers, and keep your focus point there. Very very slowly move your arms to your sides, without moving your eyes. Do your best to pay attention to your fingers, even though you're still staring forward. Pay extra close attention once your arms are almost all the way out at your sides. You're looking for the edge of your vision. Eventually your fingers and arms disappear, but what line have they crossed? What's on the other side of that line? Obviously there's stuff there, but it's literally impossible for you to know what without moving your eyes or head.

Your human existence is a limiting factor. The life force that powers reality is unlimited. There are no blind spots in the eyes of the godhead. Death will end the adventure of limited perception and fill all the blind spots. The realization will be so massive and yet so amazingly obvious. You won't be able to believe you didn't see it when you were alive. It's the ultimate punchline to the ultimate joke. Something that makes perfect sense, that you never could have imagined when you were alive. Some people catch a sliver of a glance at this punchline on Salvia or DMT, and their laughter cracks the air. It's just too funny. Death will be a delight, because we'll finally be let in on the joke that holds the galaxies together. We escape into perfect timeless freedom, with the ever-present option of undertaking more and more adventures of forgetting and remembering.
 
SammaSam
#24 Posted : 1/23/2012 3:23:50 AM

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Not to get too overly spiritual here, but I 100% believe in reincarnation and that I have been alive MANY times before and simply can't access the memories. It is said that when Buddha achieved nirvana that he had immediate simultaneous access to all of his past lives and remembered all of them.

"God is not outside us but is just us, the living and the dead, the never-lived and never-died. That we should learn it only now, is supreme reality, it was written a long time ago in the archives of universal mind, it is already done, there's no more to do." ~ Jack Kerouac


 
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#25 Posted : 1/23/2012 8:15:43 AM

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Reincarnating evolution... I could live with that, but once again, the nature of our common reality prevents us from ever being able to measure or prove this.

I use the term "ever" loosely as today's magic is tomorrow's technology...
 
Moondance
#26 Posted : 1/24/2012 1:08:21 AM

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This is pure gold! It always shocks me when are "leaders" or the heigharchy has no exploration to them. I guess they lack the ability to Wander
*Look for a while at the China Cat Sunflower, proud-walking jingle in the midnight sun, Copper-dome bodhi drip a silver kimono like a crazy-quilt star gown, through a dream night wind*
 
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