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#21 Posted : 12/4/2011 4:30:35 PM

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I guess it was more of reassurancea, that my children would be healthy and strong, that I come from a long line of spiritual healers (whatever you may interpret that as), also the meaning of my name (likened to walks with God or touched), and then with the name that was given I suddenly felt that I knew what my purpose in this world was - which is to help people to heal themselves through the use of plant medicine and other resources and gifts that I seem to have and to help people to meet their souls. I am sure that many of the things that I saw were lost on the trip back due to the amneisiac facotr, but the feelings stayed with me. Sometimes I hear music and the last time I made a brew, I realized at one point that I was communicating in an entirely different language. When the realization occured, it stopped, but it was very cool. One of the most important aspects that I was shown is that as a "healer" one can not charge for what they do. The healing that I received was a gift given to me. So, therefore I must also give it away. Today I live a very simple and humble life. I left my job and gave away the majority of my personal possessions, including a couple tubs of mushrooms (well those I shared, but never sold). I bought a backpack, sleeping bag and a tent, and started hitching across the states. For the next month I will be spending some time at a Wwoof farm, where I trade a lot of hard work for room board and some useful knowledge. In January I will be heading down to Guatemala to do some volunteer work and then plan on trekking through the jungles as well.

All this, because I made a tea. All this, because I ate a cactus, all this from finidng myself out in a field one day looking for mushrooms. It may sound crazy, but I assure you it is not. Spending years addicted to oxy-contin and herion and nearly killing myself - that's crazy. Seeing the beauty in everyday, in everything and everyone - that's just wonderful!
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#22 Posted : 12/5/2011 12:19:26 AM

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Geines wrote:
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IMO you can hear anything.

Maybe. But that defeats the purpose of the questions. Ultimately I want to know if users have had conversations with them self, or with whatever they think they're communicating with, using DMT as I have. Which has only happened once with Pharmahuasca.


Defeats the purpose of the question? The purpose being finding out what you can hear on DMT (read topic title). My answer was anything. Pretty sure everything is covered under that.

Tons of people have posts on the site about communication they have with entities. Try doing more searching.
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#23 Posted : 12/5/2011 12:58:46 AM
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Ez wrote:
I guess it was more of reassurancea, that my children would be healthy and strong, that I come from a long line of spiritual healers (whatever you may interpret that as), also the meaning of my name (likened to walks with God or touched), and then with the name that was given I suddenly felt that I knew what my purpose in this world was - which is to help people to heal themselves through the use of plant medicine and other resources and gifts that I seem to have and to help people to meet their souls. I am sure that many of the things that I saw were lost on the trip back due to the amneisiac facotr, but the feelings stayed with me. Sometimes I hear music and the last time I made a brew, I realized at one point that I was communicating in an entirely different language. When the realization occured, it stopped, but it was very cool. One of the most important aspects that I was shown is that as a "healer" one can not charge for what they do. The healing that I received was a gift given to me. So, therefore I must also give it away. Today I live a very simple and humble life. I left my job and gave away the majority of my personal possessions, including a couple tubs of mushrooms (well those I shared, but never sold). I bought a backpack, sleeping bag and a tent, and started hitching across the states. For the next month I will be spending some time at a Wwoof farm, where I trade a lot of hard work for room board and some useful knowledge. In January I will be heading down to Guatemala to do some volunteer work and then plan on trekking through the jungles as well.

All this, because I made a tea. All this, because I ate a cactus, all this from finidng myself out in a field one day looking for mushrooms. It may sound crazy, but I assure you it is not. Spending years addicted to oxy-contin and herion and nearly killing myself - that's crazy. Seeing the beauty in everyday, in everything and everyone - that's just wonderful!


It sounds like you've chosen your path in life and are putting your all into it, and thats great to hear. I don't believe in spiritual healing but you did remind me plants are used for physical healings. It makes me wonder if psychoactive plants can heal the mind. But it's quite difficult to judge, as what people think is subjective, what one thinks is right another may think it's wrong. Unlike someones arm turning green and dropping off lol, obviously there's a problem there. I've never been "healed" nor do I think I need it or seek it, but I've read others have been. So your work could really do some good to the people who believe they need it. I too have ate the cactus and shrooms, aside form purging, good times.
Keep up the high spirits and joy.
 
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#24 Posted : 12/5/2011 1:00:35 AM
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Dream2Awaken wrote:
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IMO you can hear anything.

Maybe. But that defeats the purpose of the questions. Ultimately I want to know if users have had conversations with them self, or with whatever they think they're communicating with, using DMT as I have. Which has only happened once with Pharmahuasca.


Defeats the purpose of the question? The purpose being finding out what you can hear on DMT (read topic title). My answer was anything. Pretty sure everything is covered under that.

Tons of people have posts on the site about communication they have with entities. Try doing more searching.

Questions, plural. The ones I wrote in my first post. Nevermind though.
 
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#25 Posted : 12/5/2011 1:33:28 AM

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I guess you could say I accepted my path more than chose it. When I made the aya, my intentions were to figure out I suddenly seemed to hate everyone at work (most of them were good friends). One thing lead to another. I started out with a myco grow, then I decided to try the cactus, and then I figured i'd give the aya a shot. I didn't know it was coming to this.
(¯`'·.¸(♥)¸.·'´¯Pleased But suddenly you're ripped into being alive. And life is pain, and life is suffering, and life is horror, but my god you are alive and it is spectacular!
 
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#26 Posted : 12/5/2011 2:17:02 AM
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Ez wrote:
I guess you could say I accepted my path more than chose it. When I made the aya, my intentions were to figure out I suddenly seemed to hate everyone at work (most of them were good friends). One thing lead to another. I started out with a myco grow, then I decided to try the cactus, and then I figured i'd give the aya a shot. I didn't know it was coming to this.

Wink I knew you would have thought of it that way thats why I said "chosen your path" rather than "found...". Found- being the more common saying. But the interpretation doesn't matter much. My order goes salvia cactus shrooms DMT. ^_^
 
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#27 Posted : 12/5/2011 5:49:20 PM
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You are definitely 100% able to tune into a clear verbal communication. Not sure about anyone else, but it originally started as what felt like a hole in my ear drum opening. First time I felt it come on I rubbed my ear to stop it. Second time I said fu*k it and let it do its thing. First it felt like an opening, then the opening turned into what I could hear as a fly like sound buzzing in my ear. The more I would listen in to that frequency electronic sound, the clear and clearer it became. Eventually, it got to a point where I can like, somehow, tune into it now. It always starts as a buzzing sound like a fly in your ear, just a vibrating sound of nonsense. But, if you sit and listen to it for a minute and focus on it like you focus on anything in the trip, you will see how it's a frequency range you can literally tune into. Once I get into that range, I can make out the voices clear as day. Even more bizarre, is that I can talk to them, and they can hear me. You speak purely with your mind, but the voices come from an external place, as if you hear them in your ears... Where as your own thought is still coming from the same place it always does. It's very obvious that its not your voice, it will even take on different accents and so forth. Usually, I get some type of really bizarre almost Indian sounding accent. Also, while it's happening, I can feel a vibration shooting through my body. Depending on the way that vibration feels, determines who you can connect with I believe.

For example, my body reached a very very deep and low vibration the other day, usually it's very fast and electric... This time it was a totally new type of feeling. However, up came the entities, except this time the consciousness I was talking to oddly enough were the cells within my own body. I could travel around and talk to different parts of my body. I could hear them singing, literally singing in unison to create something. I said, why? what is the point? And all at once the cells screamed and pointed "YOU!!! ITS ALL FOR YOU!" and just like that I understood. I said, sorry for all the bad things I have done to you guys, and you know what they said? They said, shoot don't even worry about it, we understand. I said, well, now what? And they said, well were getting back to work, you can do what you want, and from there I blasted out of my body.

Really crazy. I worry a little sometimes though, like what if I am crazy??? I never heard voices before, and I only ever hear them on the DMT experience. However, one night I met an alien who somehow did something to my mind and when I came back from the dmt experience, I could still communicate with dmt entities for hours and hours... However, it went away the next day and I havent been able to do it sense, but I think part of me is neglecting that place because of fear of being crazy. I remember I even told my mom about dmt and she was like hmm I don't know, are you hearing voices or anything? And I was like, WHAT??? Voices??? lol, no mom IM NOT CRAZY! And then, about a week or two later, I start hearing voices explaining the universe and energy and our souls and bodies... So, I don't know...
 
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#28 Posted : 12/5/2011 6:19:48 PM

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Geines, you are one of the lucky people. My descrition of what spiritual healing is, is a fairly loose translation. There's a reason that big-pharma has a multi-billion dollar industry especially with people suffering from depression, bi-polar, addiction, and what have you. Not to mention therapists, counselors, psychiatrists, a.a./n.a. etc. A lot of our physical and mental problems stem from emotional pain that we turn inside, which can make us physically ill. The problem with pills, is that most of them only treat the symptoms not the actual problem. I firmly believe that plant medicine can help to heal that which we have buried so deep for so long.

I think the magic lies in its ability to allow us to see our lifes without any sort of judgement. Obviously plant medicine is not for everybody, but when someone is ready to start doing some serious inner work, I think it can be an amazing tool for that healing. The thing that I have experienced and keep hearing with aya, is that it finds what you need and helps you. A long time ago, my sister told me she thought that mi's such as depression and bi-polar stem from a spiritual malady. I thought she was crazy then, but now I'm not so sure. It doesn't help that we are being fed sick food either, but I think that's a topic for another time.

I could also be completley of my rocker, but I'd like to think that I am not. When one hears the call of the soul and answers, the universe will provide for that person. This has been my experience and it's been beautiful. Sometimes we have to be careful what we ask for though...
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#29 Posted : 12/5/2011 6:40:27 PM
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On my first breakthrough, quite clearly I was told, "Eat Your Ashtray." It was repeated a couple of times, just to make sure I got the message. Other than the obvious, I am still trying to wrap my head around that one.

Other than that, I have experienced all manner of audio phenomena whilst in the mode, from foreign languages I can somehow comprehend to buzzing, musical "symphonies" and then some. Some of the best music i have ever experienced or participated in making has been during Aya sessions.

It would be hard to overstate the potential for using voice or instruments or other sound producing devices to manipulate or direct the character of the experience on psychedelics.

 
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#30 Posted : 12/5/2011 8:54:44 PM
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For example, my body reached a very very deep and low vibration the other day, usually it's very fast and electric... This time it was a totally new type of feeling.
Really crazy. I worry a little sometimes though, like what if I am crazy??? I never heard voices before, and I only ever hear them on the DMT experience.
WHAT??? Voices??? lol, no mom IM NOT CRAZY! And then, about a week or two later, I start hearing voices explaining the universe and energy and our souls and bodies... So, I don't know...

How would you describe these vibrations especially the electric types? On one DMT trip I felt electric shocks or something like that all over my being. It was as if lots of things were being pulled out of me. Painful.
I hear voices and sound and see images and animations when I close my eyes and try to clear my mind. It's like weak CEVs, it's pretty common. I wonder if Buddhists meditate for that reason.
 
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#31 Posted : 12/5/2011 9:25:31 PM
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Ez wrote:
There's a reason that big-pharma has a multi-billion dollar industry especially with people suffering from depression, bi-polar, addiction, and what have you. Not to mention therapists, counselors, psychiatrists, a.a./n.a. etc. A lot of our physical and mental problems stem from emotional pain that we turn inside, which can make us physically ill. The problem with pills, is that most of them only treat the symptoms not the actual problem. I firmly believe that plant medicine can help to heal that which we have buried so deep for so long.


Big phara is rich because people are gullible. That isn't to say when you know you have a problem and are presented with a cure, it's unwise to take it. They may over hype some diseases, or maybe thats the media, but many diseases have been eradicated from the west, and are still very much active in other parts of the world. If I'm correct ancient healers created remedies from plants. Like alchemy that evolved into chemistry, so did the healers evolve into the pharmacists. I don't know how vaccines are made but they probably still use chemicals from plants. Only they know why they've abandoned perfectly good home remedies that we all could use. Maybe they just don't want us to heal ourselves. Well it is a business after all, research, resources, personnel, distribution all cost money.
I once watched a video where a scientist was saying our emotions have a physical impact on us. Like the reverse of look good, feel good. If you're in a good mood, positive etc, your body will repair itself (these are my words, he said it a lot better) and get back into shape etc. Mind over body to some degree. Who knows, more research needs to be done.
 
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#32 Posted : 12/5/2011 9:27:06 PM
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For example, my body reached a very very deep and low vibration the other day, usually it's very fast and electric... This time it was a totally new type of feeling.
Really crazy. I worry a little sometimes though, like what if I am crazy??? I never heard voices before, and I only ever hear them on the DMT experience.
WHAT??? Voices??? lol, no mom IM NOT CRAZY! And then, about a week or two later, I start hearing voices explaining the universe and energy and our souls and bodies... So, I don't know...

How would you describe these vibrations especially the electric types? On one DMT trip I felt electric shocks or something like that all over my being. It was as if lots of things were being pulled out of me. Painful.
I hear voices and sound and see images and animations when I close my eyes and try to clear my mind. It's like weak CEVs, it's pretty common. I wonder if Buddhists meditate for that reason.



It's a little hard to describe the vibrations I feel within my body. It's like a humming but its my entire body, it's vibrating, I can feel it 100% clear as can be. Usually though, like I explained, it revs up really fast, but there was one occasion where it slowed down. But, either way, when I smoke dmt, it becomes quite a prominent feeling.

Now, about your experience, where you say you feel some uncomfortable movements within your body. I think it's up to you to make a decision when that is going on, are you being healed, or are you being hurt? I 100% guarantee if you shifted your mindset to that of being healed, when you feel those physical sensations they will 100% of the time give you a healing experience. I say this because I have these experiences ALL OF THE TIME. Where, I meet some beings and they start working on me. They work on me ALL THE TIME. At first I was like wtf this is spiritual possession, and now I realize how foolish that was. With that mind set, when they would work on me, shit would be chaotic.

I'm sure all of us in this current world need this spiritual healing experience. Whenever I get one, they get finished up and give me a report. Usually, they say things like this could use some more work, see me again next time. Sometimes they complete working on something and move on. I have had experiences of my brain being pulled out, rearranged and shifted back in. I have had experiences where I would excrete black toxins/impurities usually out of my mouth but also out of other parts of my body. I have had experiences where I can feel them physically touching and moving parts of me around. It might feel a bit uncomfortable for a second, but its really not, its just that something you haven't used in a while is coming back to life.

My most recent healing was really, REALLY impressive. I seen reality break away like a piece of glass shatters, and one by one I watched each individual shard of reality break away and fall out of the picture, all but one shard that is. One stayed behind, and then that one shard turned into what appeared to be a zombie, really skinny pale green figure with tan cutoff shorts sitting buddha style suddenly he split into about 5 aspects and rotated around a central point. The center point formed a white light and then he formed back into one aspect, picked up the light (which was shooting geometric patterns out of it). He then flew up right next to me and said LOOK AT THIS! He moved the light right up to my face and kept moving it up.

Now this is where it gets crazy, because as he moved it upwards I would follow it up with my head, however it made me move my head in such a way that I have never felt it be moved before. It was like my head was moving outside of my head, if that makes sense, and while that was happening I could hear my face popping and cracking, each time it would make that noise I would feel a great amount of pressure released from my face. Eventually I couldn't tilt my head back any further without breaking it and the guy told that I had done enough for now, and asked me how I felt... Told him I felt like a million bucks, thanks, he smiled and flew off with his light.

Anyways, I am pretty sure that the majority of the experiences we have are related to healing. I was even told by one of them that whenever I get to that state of consciousness I will always be healed, even if I am astral projecting while its going on.

So yea, its 100% about perception. Next time you feel that, just remind yourself its part of the purification process that WE ALL MUST GO THROUGH, in order to truly be able to experience these outer realms of reality.
 
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On my first breakthrough, quite clearly I was told, "Eat Your Ashtray." It was repeated a couple of times, just to make sure I got the message. Other than the obvious, I am still trying to wrap my head around that one.

Other than that, I have experienced all manner of audio phenomena whilst in the mode, from foreign languages I can somehow comprehend to buzzing, musical "symphonies" and then some. Some of the best music i have ever experienced or participated in making has been during Aya sessions.

It would be hard to overstate the potential for using voice or instruments or other sound producing devices to manipulate or direct the character of the experience on psychedelics.


Did you eat your ashtray then? Laughing
Symphonies? Could you recall them? You should write them down and share them with the world. I bet people use to do that, and they're immortalized in history for such great things.
 
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Geines wrote:
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On my first breakthrough, quite clearly I was told, "Eat Your Ashtray." It was repeated a couple of times, just to make sure I got the message. Other than the obvious, I am still trying to wrap my head around that one.

Other than that, I have experienced all manner of audio phenomena whilst in the mode, from foreign languages I can somehow comprehend to buzzing, musical "symphonies" and then some. Some of the best music i have ever experienced or participated in making has been during Aya sessions.

It would be hard to overstate the potential for using voice or instruments or other sound producing devices to manipulate or direct the character of the experience on psychedelics.


Did you eat your ashtray then? Laughing
Symphonies? Could you recall them? You should write them down and share them with the world. I bet people use to do that, and they're immortalized in history for such great things.


Haha the dmt symphony, probably my favorite song(s) of all time, but if you asked me to even hum a line from the tune I couldn't do it.... But I promise while it's happening it's like being at the symphony orchestra.
 
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#35 Posted : 12/5/2011 10:13:05 PM
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It's a little hard to describe the vibrations I feel within my body. It's like a humming but its my entire body, it's vibrating, I can feel it 100% clear as can be. Usually though, like I explained, it revs up really fast, but there was one occasion where it slowed down. But, either way, when I smoke dmt, it becomes quite a prominent feeling.

Now, about your experience, where you say you feel some uncomfortable movements within your body. I think it's up to you to make a decision when that is going on, are you being healed, or are you being hurt? I 100% guarantee if you shifted your mindset to that of being healed, when you feel those physical sensations they will 100% of the time give you a healing experience. I say this because I have these experiences ALL OF THE TIME. Where, I meet some beings and they start working on me. They work on me ALL THE TIME. At first I was like wtf this is spiritual possession, and now I realize how foolish that was. With that mind set, when they would work on me, shit would be chaotic.

I'm sure all of us in this current world need this spiritual healing experience. Whenever I get one, they get finished up and give me a report. Usually, they say things like this could use some more work, see me again next time. Sometimes they complete working on something and move on. I have had experiences of my brain being pulled out, rearranged and shifted back in. I have had experiences where I would excrete black toxins/impurities usually out of my mouth but also out of other parts of my body. I have had experiences where I can feel them physically touching and moving parts of me around. It might feel a bit uncomfortable for a second, but its really not, its just that something you haven't used in a while is coming back to life.

My most recent healing was really, REALLY impressive. I seen reality break away like a piece of glass shatters, and one by one I watched each individual shard of reality break away and fall out of the picture, all but one shard that is. One stayed behind, and then that one shard turned into what appeared to be a zombie, really skinny pale green figure with tan cutoff shorts sitting buddha style suddenly he split into about 5 aspects and rotated around a central point. The center point formed a white light and then he formed back into one aspect, picked up the light (which was shooting geometric patterns out of it). He then flew up right next to me and said LOOK AT THIS! He moved the light right up to my face and kept moving it up.

Now this is where it gets crazy, because as he moved it upwards I would follow it up with my head, however it made me move my head in such a way that I have never felt it be moved before. It was like my head was moving outside of my head, if that makes sense, and while that was happening I could hear my face popping and cracking, each time it would make that noise I would feel a great amount of pressure released from my face. Eventually I couldn't tilt my head back any further without breaking it and the guy told that I had done enough for now, and asked me how I felt... Told him I felt like a million bucks, thanks, he smiled and flew off with his light.

Anyways, I am pretty sure that the majority of the experiences we have are related to healing. I was even told by one of them that whenever I get to that state of consciousness I will always be healed, even if I am astral projecting while its going on.

So yea, its 100% about perception. Next time you feel that, just remind yourself its part of the purification process that WE ALL MUST GO THROUGH, in order to truly be able to experience these outer realms of reality.


I didn't see an entity work on me. The place I was in went all white, beeping techno electonic sounds started, then the jolts. The transition seemed to last a while, then I think I was in a bright white room, which might've had other rooms connected to it. I saw a white outline of a humanoid being, who was bigger than me, sitting across the room opposite me facing me. He communicated, what I thought I understood, from a distance. Basically everything was pure white and I think I saw and heard someone tell me something.
As for the physical feeling being "healing", it felt more like unplugging from the matrix, but, for me at least, thats a dangerous thought. What was communicated was more like reassurance, to tell me everything was ok, as I was severely troubled by an earlier trip.
Perhaps there are initiations with DMT as it delves down into the mind and brings subconscious archetypes to the surface. Perhaps the mind can be "fixed" in such a manner.
 
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Geines wrote:
I didn't see an entity work on me. The place I was in went all white, beeping techno electonic sounds started, then the jolts. The transition seemed to last a while, then I think I was in a bright white room, which might've had other rooms connected to it. I saw a white outline of a humanoid being, who was bigger than me, sitting across the room opposite me facing me. He communicated, what I thought I understood, from a distance. Basically everything was pure white and I think I saw and heard someone tell me something.
As for the physical feeling being "healing", it felt more like unplugging from the matrix, but, for me at least, thats a dangerous thought. What was communicated was more like reassurance, to tell me everything was ok, as I was severely troubled by an earlier trip.
Perhaps there are initiations with DMT as it delves down into the mind and brings subconscious archetypes to the surface. Perhaps the mind can be "fixed" in such a manner.


Don't worry dude, I am still trying to understand all this myself. I get a trip where its like wow, that was the climax of my life, nothing can ever beat that... Then, next time I trip its like you thought that was awesome, look at this! And the cycle repeats. However, there are the occasional trips where shit is absolutely meaningless it seems (though there is ALWAYS a message) and I believe when you have a trip like that, you are being blocked from your own mind. Something inside yourself is troubling you, preventing you from getting to the places you truly desire. The places of love and healing.

For example, I had a trip a couple days ago where I was in what appeared to be a babies room with these pure white alien looking teletubbies aimlessly walking around. Why the fuck would I ever trip about something like that? Where did that come from? What deep part of my mind created that? But, then I thought maybe I went to the same place as the guy who wrote the original teletubies. Cause, when I say I seen them, I mean that shit was literally there. Nothing healing though, no communication, pure and absolute chaos. In my head I was like wtf is this creepy ass place, let me get outta here, and in a flash I was somewhere more meaningful. Its all about perception, and being able to realize YOU have full control over the experience, but only if you let yourself.
 
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#37 Posted : 12/5/2011 11:12:29 PM
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Its all about perception, and being able to realize YOU have full control over the experience, but only if you let yourself.

Didn't you post in another thread that one must 100% let go? Now you're saying one has full control over a trip. I've never had control over a trip thats in full motion. You sound more experienced than me with DMT, maybe you've learned to control it.
Ha teletubbies, I watched a video of them dancing to dubstep hours ago.
 
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Geines wrote:
Death&Decay wrote:
Its all about perception, and being able to realize YOU have full control over the experience, but only if you let yourself.

Didn't you post in another thread that one must 100% let go? Now you're saying one has full control over a trip. I've never had control over a trip thats in full motion. You sound more experienced than me with DMT, maybe you've learned to control it.
Ha teletubbies, I watched a video of them dancing to dubstep hours ago.


Sorry it sounds confusing but no other way to explain other than by letting go u are gaining more control. It's like the less you try the more you do kind of theory. The only way to understand is to learn to do it. There is no mental concept to make sense of it unless you understand what to do which is essentially to do nothing lol. Jeesh if I would of heard this before I started dmt I would of been like this guys nuts but really its how it goes.
 
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