 Buy the ticket, take the ride
Posts: 63 Joined: 25-Feb-2011 Last visit: 10-Dec-2021 Location: United States
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I bet if that kid had just got a good lawyer he probably would have spent no real time in jail. I just think it is weak to not put up a fight (or even leave the country heh). It is very sad though the things the government does to its people. The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. The others--the living--are those who pushed their control as far as they felt they could handle it, and then pulled back, or slowed down, or did whatever they had to when it came time to choose between now and later - HST
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Posts: 61 Joined: 10-Oct-2011 Last visit: 05-Jun-2013 Location: Quantum non-local
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About fleeing the country, does this really work anymore? http://www.interpol.intI understand his decision. I'm not from the US, but I hear you get jailed for 100000 years for felonies over there, and I've also seen what those prisons look like (Prison Break gives 100% correct image right?  ) Rather go to hyperspace forever than just "waiting it out"…
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Posts: 12340 Joined: 12-Nov-2008 Last visit: 02-Apr-2023 Location: pacific
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yep. I basically have not stepped onto US soil in probly 5 years now becasue of what it is like there..and I live 30 minutes from the US boarder. I grew up 15 minutes from the US and love washington, oregon and california..but the US is so fucked up with the laws there I cant get behind it. Minxx is from the states and refuses to even go back there again. I dont think she has gone back in 6 years. I would like to cross the boarder again some day..but not until they stop pushing they're agenda on to every other country and personal liberties are at least somewhat respected. Long live the unwoke.
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Posts: 519 Joined: 21-Sep-2009 Last visit: 15-Mar-2021 Location: canada
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This is a disturbing story, I hope all law enforcement involved in this really take a long look in the mirror and ask themselves wft they are doing to people. Actually we all should hang our leaders by the balls for such things and the fact that we don't really says something about how cowardly and complacent we all are. Shame on all of us for letting it come to this. "I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect." J. Krishnamurti ~ The Dissolution of the Order of the Star. 1929http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erjAzA753sg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AEU5pBxY6E
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Posts: 190 Joined: 17-Nov-2008 Last visit: 26-Jan-2022 Location: UK
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This is such a sad story. My heart really does go out to all those affected by this. I work in suicide prevention and i know that when people feel as though they cant talk about how they feel then sometimes this sorta stuff happens. From his perspective he was thinking what choice do i have? Its a fucked up world when you can ingest legal drugs that will do far greater damage than dmt or mushrooms ever will... Truly fucked up acolon_5 wrote:Welcome to club hypersex.
I've been there too...it is amazing.
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Posts: 3207 Joined: 19-Jul-2011 Last visit: 02-Jan-2023
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Orion wrote:Another win in a seemingly unending string of victories for our oppressors. >seemingly. its funny because the government has long been saying that they have been losing the war on drugs ( bill hicks goes here) i feel like more and more people are starting to look at this logically and starting to realize how fucking ludicrous it is (even if they are personally against drugs). so i don't think it will go on much longer. especially when you take into account that some of these schedule I "drugs" are exponentially less toxic than cigarettes and alcohol, which, legally, aren't even considered "drugs"  humanity tends to overcome prohibitions set by itself. it is pretty fucking irritating to have to deal with this war on personal freedoms, but this too shall pass My wind instrument is the bong CHANGA IN THE BONGA! 樹
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Posts: 1824 Joined: 31-Jan-2011 Last visit: 05-Apr-2014 Location: paradise
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Purges wrote:Christian, my mind boggles at this on a very regular basis. I try not to let it bum me out, but stories like this bring all the resentment and frustration bubbling right back to the surface again. -Purges, i feel the same way as you do on matters like this. It's maddening to the core, but we shall never forget just how wrong it is, this so called free society we live in....freedom defined for you by our close minded and yet dEADLY in other ways government... "Eat your vegetables and do as you're told, or you won't be going to the funfair!"
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Posts: 300 Joined: 25-Oct-2009 Last visit: 21-Jul-2021 Location: Where past, present, and future collapse
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What a terrible thing to happen. Any one of us could find ourselves in a similar situation. It is unfair and unjustified how the system can destroy anyone's life in such a drastic way for something that should be legal. Being that the ones interested in these substances are probably some of the most intelligent, yet suicide was not the way to go, perhaps he should have gone to court first and figured out that something better could have happened. There are a lot of things that can hold you back in society, such as a criminal background, but that is superficial and who really cares, we don't need to revolve our lives around it, though it may seem so, but what is to be done? "That which I avoid I will become a slave to, that which I confront I will master."
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Posts: 690 Joined: 14-Mar-2010 Last visit: 16-Feb-2024 Location: sur la mer
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There's no reason for things to change until users of entheogens "contribute" more money to $$$politicians$$$ than brewers and distillers. Maybe the premise of "Tricia's Wedding" wasn't so bad .... WHOA!
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Posts: 4003 Joined: 28-Jun-2011 Last visit: 27-May-2024
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z0mbie wrote: Quote:I bet if that kid had just got a good lawyer he probably would have spent no real time in jail. ..sure, probably, and if he had a lot of money he could get a good lawyer..or have a chance of becoming a 'democratic' representative of the people on the USA and it's laws, i'm resolved to boycott any country (or state, to be fairer) with the death penalty, such as USA and Saudi Arabia.. .
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Posts: 4639 Joined: 16-May-2008 Last visit: 24-Dec-2012 Location: A speck of dust in endless space, like everyone else.
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pau wrote:There's no reason for things to change until users of entheogens "contribute" more money to $$$politicians$$$ than brewers and distillers.
I think, technically speaking, they ARE contributing more money than brewers and distillers.
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Posts: 3207 Joined: 19-Jul-2011 Last visit: 02-Jan-2023
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polytrip wrote:I think, technically speaking, they ARE contributing more money than brewers and distillers. how do you figure?  My wind instrument is the bong CHANGA IN THE BONGA! 樹
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 Hyperspace Architect/Doctor
Posts: 1242 Joined: 11-Jul-2010 Last visit: 08-Dec-2012 Location: On this plane
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Very tragic and sad, I dont know if taken himself out was the best option, but idk it was a little selfish, suicide effects more than a death i think, it leaves you with so many questions, that is if you are the one who lost a close one, It definitely goes to show that extracting is no walk in the park yea its easy but we definitely must be safe with it, and responsible, it holds and shares a lot of power and you cant disrespect that. "You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness." — Terence McKenna
"They Say It helps when you close yours eyes cowboy"
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Posts: 4003 Joined: 28-Jun-2011 Last visit: 27-May-2024
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..i don't think 'taking himself out' was the right thing to do, but i understand how the justice system is built upon fear..i directly hold the US justice system responsible for his death...
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Posts: 30 Joined: 29-Aug-2011 Last visit: 05-Jan-2017
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The whole deal is a tragedy but I am almost certain that DEA agents pushed him into his corner. I don't think he fabricated that fear I think they talked him up... At least they reviewed and changed the crack cocaine laws right??? Seriously though wtf  MIND YOU THIS IS AN ENTIRE WORK OF FICTION FOR A FANTASTIC NOVEL I AM WORKING ON - THESE ARE MERELY STORIES TO ENTERTAIN AND ARE OF NO RESEMBLANCE TO ANY LIVING OR HISTORICAL PERSONS
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Posts: 190 Joined: 17-Nov-2008 Last visit: 26-Jan-2022 Location: UK
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DoctorMantus wrote:Very tragic and sad, I dont know if taken himself out was the best option, but idk it was a little selfish, suicide effects more than a death i think, it leaves you with so many questions, that is if you are the one who lost a close one, It definitely goes to show that extracting is no walk in the park yea its easy but we definitely must be safe with it, and responsible, it holds and shares a lot of power and you cant disrespect that.
I can see how suicide may be seen as 'selfish'. But please also think that this person is no longer with us and has paid a far higher price than can be imagined. To take your own life takes more courage than you think... Like i said before, a really sad story. acolon_5 wrote:Welcome to club hypersex.
I've been there too...it is amazing.
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 The Space Between
Posts: 109 Joined: 24-Jan-2012 Last visit: 11-Mar-2014 Location: My soul occupying my physical body.
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We are modern day slaves as of today and have been for a very long time. They want to believe thier protecting us keeping us safe by keeping us away from the meaningful molecules and instead using mixures of harmful molecules (medications) to make our mindz and bodies believe that were helping a certain condition. They know thier stuff is incredibly unhealthy because im sure its been tested on lab rats etc. And even the things we eat like oreos all the junk food that has all these preservatives  and extra chemicals that clearly can be made without all that. Television can even be considered a drug it induces alpha and theta waves which is considered an altered state. Time will come when these government agencies and mdia newcasters, agents (the way the matrix puts it) etc are in for a very rude awakening. Karma is a bitch. Whether their aware or not that thier spreading evil and destruction and pure ignorance about drugs they will get thiers in return so the only thing we can do is do be aware and let go and accept the world and spread positivity and truth and be in the light and patiently wait for the rest of the world to.. I think that since dmt takes away your fear of death it was not such a big deal to kill himself other than his family finding out. Rather than being locked in a cage and blaming himself for it. Hope that dont offend any one. He did nothing wrong and definetly didnt deserve this or his family. . Love and light. Hes flying in hyperspace now having a blast...or wherever. we trancend to...
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 The Space Between
Posts: 109 Joined: 24-Jan-2012 Last visit: 11-Mar-2014 Location: My soul occupying my physical body.
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That smiley up there was an accident...
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 when in doubt, twirl
Posts: 188 Joined: 10-Feb-2012 Last visit: 09-Dec-2015 Location: The Timbers of Fennario
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this is tragic, but perfectly predictable... i was arrested in 2000 for possession of LSD with intent to distribute (due to quantity, not actual intent...) i came pretty close to being this kid... it's a scary feeling when they start trotting out those "mimimum" sentences & pressing you for information, expecially when coming down from the trip... but in reality... buckle up kid... it's not the end of the world... yes, they are going to scare you with the possibility of 9 forevers in prison... so you cut your hair & hire a lawyer... maybe check into a rehab (whether you need it or not, it looks good in front of a judge.).. & you chin up & do things right... they convinced me i was going to do 60 yrs in prison (i live in the deep south, a little backwards still) but by the time i walked out of court (without crying, lying, or snitching on anybody) i had been handed an 8 year sentence (suspended) & 5 years of probation (which they only made me serve 3 1/2 years of.).. most especially if you are a young, white (i know that's borderline racist, but it's not my view, just the way it works) student charged with his first offense... this kid made mistakes, yes, but in the end, as far as i'm concerned, he is a victim of police bullying... pure and simple... they tried to scare him into rolling (as they are prone to do) & he took another way out... & that's a fucking shame... spinning a set the stars through which the tattered tales of axis roll about the waxen wind of never set to motion in the unbecoming round about the reason hardly matters nor the wise through which the stars were set in spin...
"Chemistry is applied theology." Augustus Owsley Stanley III
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Posts: 465 Joined: 01-Dec-2009 Last visit: 04-Jul-2024
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That video brought tears to my eyes. All my love to the mother, the family and the friends. I hope the video will send out the right message. Listen to a man of experience: thou wilt learn more in the woods than in books. Trees and stones will teach thee more than thou canst acquire from the mouth of a master. St. Bernard
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