We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the latest discussions. This is an archive of our previous conversations...

You can find the login page for the old forum here.
CHATPRIVACYDONATELOGINREGISTER
DMT-Nexus
FAQWIKIHEALTH & SAFETYARTATTITUDEACTIVE TOPICS
PREV123NEXT
Student commits suicide after DEA finds DMT/Shrooms Options
 
z0mbie
#21 Posted : 10/31/2011 2:12:12 PM

Buy the ticket, take the ride


Posts: 63
Joined: 25-Feb-2011
Last visit: 10-Dec-2021
Location: United States
I bet if that kid had just got a good lawyer he probably would have spent no real time in jail. I just think it is weak to not put up a fight (or even leave the country heh). It is very sad though the things the government does to its people.
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. The others--the living--are those who pushed their control as far as they felt they could handle it, and then pulled back, or slowed down, or did whatever they had to when it came time to choose between now and later - HST
 

STS is a community for people interested in growing, preserving and researching botanical species, particularly those with remarkable therapeutic and/or psychoactive properties.
 
meatsim
#22 Posted : 10/31/2011 2:41:33 PM

Shaman


Posts: 61
Joined: 10-Oct-2011
Last visit: 05-Jun-2013
Location: Quantum non-local
About fleeing the country, does this really work anymore? http://www.interpol.int

I understand his decision. I'm not from the US, but I hear you get jailed for 100000 years for felonies over there, and I've also seen what those prisons look like (Prison Break gives 100% correct image right? Razz) Rather go to hyperspace forever than just "waiting it out"…
 
jamie
#23 Posted : 10/31/2011 4:16:00 PM

DMT-Nexus member

Salvia divinorum expert | Skills: Plant growing, Ayahuasca brewing, Mushroom growingSenior Member | Skills: Plant growing, Ayahuasca brewing, Mushroom growing

Posts: 12340
Joined: 12-Nov-2008
Last visit: 02-Apr-2023
Location: pacific
yep. I basically have not stepped onto US soil in probly 5 years now becasue of what it is like there..and I live 30 minutes from the US boarder. I grew up 15 minutes from the US and love washington, oregon and california..but the US is so fucked up with the laws there I cant get behind it. Minxx is from the states and refuses to even go back there again. I dont think she has gone back in 6 years.

I would like to cross the boarder again some day..but not until they stop pushing they're agenda on to every other country and personal liberties are at least somewhat respected.
Long live the unwoke.
 
RayOfLight
#24 Posted : 10/31/2011 4:25:38 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 519
Joined: 21-Sep-2009
Last visit: 15-Mar-2021
Location: canada
This is a disturbing story, I hope all law enforcement involved in this really take a long look in the mirror and ask themselves wft they are doing to people. Actually we all should hang our leaders by the balls for such things and the fact that we don't really says something about how cowardly and complacent we all are. Shame on all of us for letting it come to this.
‎"I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect." J. Krishnamurti ~ The Dissolution of the Order of the Star. 1929

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erjAzA753sg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AEU5pBxY6E
 
thepureskunk
#25 Posted : 10/31/2011 4:31:12 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 190
Joined: 17-Nov-2008
Last visit: 26-Jan-2022
Location: UK
This is such a sad story. My heart really does go out to all those affected by this.

I work in suicide prevention and i know that when people feel as though they cant talk about how they feel then sometimes this sorta stuff happens. From his perspective he was thinking what choice do i have?

Its a fucked up world when you can ingest legal drugs that will do far greater damage than dmt or mushrooms ever will...

Truly fucked up Crying or very sad
acolon_5 wrote:
Welcome to club hypersex.

I've been there too...it is amazing.


 
Parshvik Chintan
#26 Posted : 10/31/2011 5:30:27 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 3207
Joined: 19-Jul-2011
Last visit: 02-Jan-2023
Orion wrote:
Another win in a seemingly unending string of victories for our oppressors.

>seemingly.
its funny because the government has long been saying that they have been losing the war on drugs (bill hicks goes here)

i feel like more and more people are starting to look at this logically and starting to realize how fucking ludicrous it is (even if they are personally against drugs). so i don't think it will go on much longer.
especially when you take into account that some of these schedule I "drugs" are exponentially less toxic than cigarettes and alcohol, which, legally, aren't even considered "drugs"

humanity tends to overcome prohibitions set by itself.
it is pretty fucking irritating to have to deal with this war on personal freedoms, but this too shall pass
My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
 
christian
#27 Posted : 10/31/2011 5:37:20 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 1824
Joined: 31-Jan-2011
Last visit: 05-Apr-2014
Location: paradise
Purges wrote:
Christian, my mind boggles at this on a very regular basis. I try not to let it bum me out, but stories like this bring all the resentment and frustration bubbling right back to the surface again.


-Purges, i feel the same way as you do on matters like this. It's maddening to the core, but we shall never forget just how wrong it is, this so called free society we live in....freedom defined for you by our close minded and yet dEADLY in other ways government...Surprised
"Eat your vegetables and do as you're told, or you won't be going to the funfair!"
 
Sublime
#28 Posted : 10/31/2011 8:28:04 PM

Intraterrestrial


Posts: 300
Joined: 25-Oct-2009
Last visit: 21-Jul-2021
Location: Where past, present, and future collapse
What a terrible thing to happen. Any one of us could find ourselves in a similar situation. It is unfair and unjustified how the system can destroy anyone's life in such a drastic way for something that should be legal. Being that the ones interested in these substances are probably some of the most intelligent, yet suicide was not the way to go, perhaps he should have gone to court first and figured out that something better could have happened. There are a lot of things that can hold you back in society, such as a criminal background, but that is superficial and who really cares, we don't need to revolve our lives around it, though it may seem so, but what is to be done?
"That which I avoid I will become a slave to, that which I confront I will master."
 
pau
#29 Posted : 10/31/2011 9:40:51 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 690
Joined: 14-Mar-2010
Last visit: 16-Feb-2024
Location: sur la mer
There's no reason for things to change until users of entheogens "contribute" more money to $$$politicians$$$ than brewers and distillers.

Maybe the premise of "Tricia's Wedding" wasn't so bad ....
WHOA!
 
nen888
#30 Posted : 11/1/2011 3:50:23 AM
member for the trees

Acacia expert | Skills: Acacia, Botany, Tryptamines, CounsellingExtraordinary knowledge | Skills: Acacia, Botany, Tryptamines, CounsellingSenior Member | Skills: Acacia, Botany, Tryptamines, Counselling

Posts: 4003
Joined: 28-Jun-2011
Last visit: 27-May-2024
z0mbie wrote:
Quote:
I bet if that kid had just got a good lawyer he probably would have spent no real time in jail.

..sure, probably, and if he had a lot of money he could get a good lawyer..or have a chance of becoming a 'democratic' representative of the people

on the USA and it's laws, i'm resolved to boycott any country (or state, to be fairer) with the death penalty, such as USA and Saudi Arabia..
.
 
polytrip
#31 Posted : 11/1/2011 3:48:08 PM
DMT-Nexus member

Senior Member

Posts: 4639
Joined: 16-May-2008
Last visit: 24-Dec-2012
Location: A speck of dust in endless space, like everyone else.
pau wrote:
There's no reason for things to change until users of entheogens "contribute" more money to $$$politicians$$$ than brewers and distillers.

I think, technically speaking, they ARE contributing more money than brewers and distillers.
 
Parshvik Chintan
#32 Posted : 11/1/2011 7:01:26 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 3207
Joined: 19-Jul-2011
Last visit: 02-Jan-2023
polytrip wrote:
I think, technically speaking, they ARE contributing more money than brewers and distillers.

how do you figure?
My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
 
DoctorMantus
#33 Posted : 11/1/2011 7:37:56 PM

Hyperspace Architect/Doctor


Posts: 1242
Joined: 11-Jul-2010
Last visit: 08-Dec-2012
Location: On this plane
Very tragic and sad, I dont know if taken himself out was the best option, but idk it was a little selfish, suicide effects more than a death i think, it leaves you with so many questions, that is if you are the one who lost a close one, It definitely goes to show that extracting is no walk in the park yea its easy but we definitely must be safe with it, and responsible, it holds and shares a lot of power and you cant disrespect that.

"You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness."
— Terence McKenna

"They Say It helps when you close yours eyes cowboy"
 
nen888
#34 Posted : 11/2/2011 5:57:04 AM
member for the trees

Acacia expert | Skills: Acacia, Botany, Tryptamines, CounsellingExtraordinary knowledge | Skills: Acacia, Botany, Tryptamines, CounsellingSenior Member | Skills: Acacia, Botany, Tryptamines, Counselling

Posts: 4003
Joined: 28-Jun-2011
Last visit: 27-May-2024
..i don't think 'taking himself out' was the right thing to do, but i understand how the justice system is built upon fear..i directly hold the US justice system responsible for his death...
 
beandip
#35 Posted : 11/2/2011 8:35:54 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 30
Joined: 29-Aug-2011
Last visit: 05-Jan-2017
The whole deal is a tragedy but I am almost certain that DEA agents pushed him into his corner. I don't think he fabricated that fear I think they talked him up... At least they reviewed and changed the crack cocaine laws right??? Seriously though wtf Sad
MIND YOU THIS IS AN ENTIRE WORK OF FICTION FOR A FANTASTIC NOVEL I AM WORKING ON - THESE ARE MERELY STORIES TO ENTERTAIN AND ARE OF NO RESEMBLANCE TO ANY LIVING OR HISTORICAL PERSONS
 
thepureskunk
#36 Posted : 11/2/2011 1:21:42 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 190
Joined: 17-Nov-2008
Last visit: 26-Jan-2022
Location: UK
DoctorMantus wrote:
Very tragic and sad, I dont know if taken himself out was the best option, but idk it was a little selfish, suicide effects more than a death i think, it leaves you with so many questions, that is if you are the one who lost a close one, It definitely goes to show that extracting is no walk in the park yea its easy but we definitely must be safe with it, and responsible, it holds and shares a lot of power and you cant disrespect that.



I can see how suicide may be seen as 'selfish'.

But please also think that this person is no longer with us and has paid a far higher price than can be imagined. To take your own life takes more courage than you think...

Like i said before, a really sad story.
acolon_5 wrote:
Welcome to club hypersex.

I've been there too...it is amazing.


 
spicentheogodmt
#37 Posted : 3/8/2012 8:24:54 AM

The Space Between


Posts: 109
Joined: 24-Jan-2012
Last visit: 11-Mar-2014
Location: My soul occupying my physical body.
We are modern day slaves as of today and have been for a very long time. They want to believe thier protecting us keeping us safe by keeping us away from the meaningful molecules and instead using mixures of harmful molecules (medications) to make our mindz and bodies believe that were helping a certain condition. They know thier stuff is incredibly unhealthy because im sure its been tested on lab rats etc. And even the things we eat like oreos all the junk food that has all these preservatives Smile and extra chemicals that clearly can be made without all that. Television can even be considered a drug it induces alpha and theta waves which is considered an altered state. Time will come when these government agencies and mdia newcasters, agents (the way the matrix puts it) etc are in for a very rude awakening. Karma is a bitch. Whether their aware or not that thier spreading evil and destruction and pure ignorance about drugs they will get thiers in return so the only thing we can do is do be aware and let go and accept the world and spread positivity and truth and be in the light and patiently wait for the rest of the world to.. I think that since dmt takes away your fear of death it was not such a big deal to kill himself other than his family finding out. Rather than being locked in a cage and blaming himself for it. Hope that dont offend any one. He did nothing wrong and definetly didnt deserve this or his family.
.
Love and light. Hes flying in hyperspace now having a blast...or wherever. we trancend to...Wink
 
spicentheogodmt
#38 Posted : 3/8/2012 8:28:58 AM

The Space Between


Posts: 109
Joined: 24-Jan-2012
Last visit: 11-Mar-2014
Location: My soul occupying my physical body.
That smiley up there was an accident...
 
Leon Trout
#39 Posted : 3/8/2012 8:39:14 AM

when in doubt, twirl


Posts: 188
Joined: 10-Feb-2012
Last visit: 09-Dec-2015
Location: The Timbers of Fennario
this is tragic, but perfectly predictable... i was arrested in 2000 for possession of LSD with intent to distribute (due to quantity, not actual intent...) i came pretty close to being this kid... it's a scary feeling when they start trotting out those "mimimum" sentences & pressing you for information, expecially when coming down from the trip...

but in reality...

buckle up kid... it's not the end of the world... yes, they are going to scare you with the possibility of 9 forevers in prison... so you cut your hair & hire a lawyer... maybe check into a rehab (whether you need it or not, it looks good in front of a judge.).. & you chin up & do things right... they convinced me i was going to do 60 yrs in prison (i live in the deep south, a little backwards still) but by the time i walked out of court (without crying, lying, or snitching on anybody) i had been handed an 8 year sentence (suspended) & 5 years of probation (which they only made me serve 3 1/2 years of.).. most especially if you are a young, white (i know that's borderline racist, but it's not my view, just the way it works) student charged with his first offense...

this kid made mistakes, yes, but in the end, as far as i'm concerned, he is a victim of police bullying... pure and simple... they tried to scare him into rolling (as they are prone to do) & he took another way out... & that's a fucking shame...
spinning a set the stars through which the tattered tales of axis roll about the waxen wind of never set to motion in the unbecoming round about the reason hardly matters nor the wise through which the stars were set in spin...

"Chemistry is applied theology." Augustus Owsley Stanley III
 
Dante
#40 Posted : 3/9/2012 12:11:56 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 465
Joined: 01-Dec-2009
Last visit: 04-Jul-2024
That video brought tears to my eyes.

All my love to the mother, the family and the friends.

I hope the video will send out the right message.
Listen to a man of experience: thou wilt learn more in the woods than in books. Trees and stones will teach thee more than thou canst acquire from the mouth of a master. St. Bernard
 
PREV123NEXT
 
Users browsing this forum
Guest (2)

DMT-Nexus theme created by The Traveler
This page was generated in 0.053 seconds.