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Mel Angel
#21 Posted : 1/8/2015 12:09:33 AM
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Tramadol is an interesting compound, especially its major metabolite (+)-O-Desmethyltramadol. It is really useful to taper off short and long acting opioids with this medication. If you develop a month long hydrocodone habit....in excess of ~50mg per day....switching to tramadol for a week and doing a short taper can really help.

I actually had some very interesting CEVs on ~15mg of DMT crystals w/ the GVG combined with tramadol (100mg). I was also on 30mg of morphine sulphate. I wasn't trying to get that high with the opioids btw...I just seriously hurt myself about a month ago and pinched a nerve. Nothing permanent but it hurt really bad.
 

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#22 Posted : 1/8/2015 2:39:00 AM

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I've only had negative experiences with Tramadol and wouldn't dream of mixing with dmt. Each time I used tramadol I either felt a large amount of nausea, trouble sleeping and one occasion I developed a horrible looking rash on my thigh which I can only attribute to the tramadol. I'm not sure if I have some kind of allergy to it but yeah for me the negatives outweigh the positive effects of this drug.

That was when I was younger and dabbling with pharms for recreational use though. I no longer mess with those things.
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downwardsfromzero
#23 Posted : 1/8/2015 2:45:06 AM

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DreaMTripper wrote:
[...]Tramadol was found in nature recently.

tramadol
mesembrine

Thought this was worth a comparison...

(Hope pictures work, wasn't entirely sure how to link from web source.)




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Mel Angel
#24 Posted : 1/8/2015 3:31:11 AM
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Geebus...I would err on the side of caution with this combo, but I think problems are dosage dependent. I'm not sure if tramadol is more of a serotonin releasing agent or a reuptake inhibitor because DeltaSpice combined with changa. Tramadol is just a weird drug in general but it doesn't seem to cause problems for me but I am a real pussycat when it comes to DMT when I combine with other serotonergics. Phenibut and noopept are good combos for DMT btw and I consider them safe.

The best DMT trip I ever had was one summer on top of a high rise parking structure on university of chicago's campus...I was on vyvanse and I was on Suboxone at the time. The euphoria, visions, and alien contact can't be put into words. The Chicago skyline came to life in such a magical way. It was pure bliss and I felt so safe and at peace and the CEVs allowed me to communicate with a holy diety telepathically.

I've had some great trips but that one was outrageous. Then I had a horrible trip one day and my life changed. I feel like Schrödinger's cat now and feel like I died and experienced some form of quantum immortality. I continue on in a different parallel reality. Ever since that bad trip...my mom died and other bad things keep happening to me. I don't know what to believe anymore.
 
DreaMTripper
#25 Posted : 1/8/2015 11:40:17 PM

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downwardsfromzero wrote:
DreaMTripper wrote:
[...]Tramadol was found in nature recently.

tramadol
mesembrine

Thought this was worth a comparison...

(Hope pictures work, wasn't entirely sure how to link from web source.)



Apparently this discovery of tramadol is now being analysed and may well be contamination from feeding cows tramadol. An odd practice in itself!
 
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