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easyrider wrote:I can't help but notice a major difference in the relationship between dissenter and authority in southern Europe and the U.S. The dissenters of southern Europe do not fear the police, for they go as far as to physically resist and violently clash en masse. The dissenters of the U.S. seem terrified of the police, not laying a hand against them. You'll see dissenters chase off the police in southern Europe, while in the U.S., it's the other way around. Perhaps this is a consequence of a hardened police state, but a police state can only form and exist if its citizens do not resist. Where did you get this from. This is certainly not whats been happening in Spain and this is exactly why the movement here has gained so much power, because of peaceful protesting. If there was violent protesting, it wouldnt have gained the support it did and already influence politics in a significant way. When police came, we wouldnt run away but just sit down and lock arms and resist peacefully, and if we got thrown away, we would come back, with even more people. You can read more about it here
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The issue is American pigs are trained to be violent. You can look through the photos and videos of the past couple days and see many pigs taking out non-violent protesters and fabricating reasons for doing so. The Americans involved in this clearly do not fear the pigs, otherwise they wouldn't be out there getting corralled by a presence of 1 pig per 2-3 protesters. No one is running from the pigs, they are trying to maintain a non-violent protest. Thus, when things start to get violent from the pigs, you clear out of the area of the fracas and regroup. This is a rather basic strategy of non-violent protests. Wiki โข Attitude โข FAQThe Nexian โข Nexus Research โข The OHTIn New York, we wrote the legal number on our arms in marker...To call a lawyer if we were arrested. In Istanbul, People wrote their blood types on their arms. I hear in Egypt, They just write Their names. ืื ืื ืืขืืืจ
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endlessness wrote:easyrider wrote:I can't help but notice a major difference in the relationship between dissenter and authority in southern Europe and the U.S. The dissenters of southern Europe do not fear the police, for they go as far as to physically resist and violently clash en masse. The dissenters of the U.S. seem terrified of the police, not laying a hand against them. You'll see dissenters chase off the police in southern Europe, while in the U.S., it's the other way around. Perhaps this is a consequence of a hardened police state, but a police state can only form and exist if its citizens do not resist. Where did you get this from. This is certainly not whats been happening in Spain and this is exactly why the movement here has gained so much power, because of peaceful protesting. If there was violent protesting, it wouldnt have gained the support it did and already influence politics in a significant way. When police came, we wouldnt run away but just sit down and lock arms and resist peacefully, and if we got thrown away, we would come back, with even more people. You can read more about it here yup, peaceful protests are the best way in my opinion "Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars... Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." - Aegle
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 โRight here and now, one quanta away, there is raging a universe of active intelligence that is transhuman, hyperdimensional, and extremely alien... What is driving religious feeling today is a wish for contact with this other universe.โ โ Terence McKenna
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endlessness wrote:easyrider wrote:I can't help but notice a major difference in the relationship between dissenter and authority in southern Europe and the U.S. The dissenters of southern Europe do not fear the police, for they go as far as to physically resist and violently clash en masse. The dissenters of the U.S. seem terrified of the police, not laying a hand against them. You'll see dissenters chase off the police in southern Europe, while in the U.S., it's the other way around. Perhaps this is a consequence of a hardened police state, but a police state can only form and exist if its citizens do not resist. Where did you get this from. This is certainly not whats been happening in Spain and this is exactly why the movement here has gained so much power, because of peaceful protesting. If there was violent protesting, it wouldnt have gained the support it did and already influence politics in a significant way. When police came, we wouldnt run away but just sit down and lock arms and resist peacefully, and if we got thrown away, we would come back, with even more people. You can read more about it here Well, Greece came to my mind when I made that post, not the recent peaceful protests of Spain. The thing with American police is that they can imprison a person for a lengthy period for the silliest reasons, most of the time fabricated or exaggerated, so coming back is quite difficult. SnozzleBerry wrote:The Americans involved in this clearly do not fear the pigs, otherwise they wouldn't be out there getting corralled by a presence of 1 pig per 2-3 protesters. No one is running from the pigs, they are trying to maintain a non-violent protest. Thus, when things start to get violent from the pigs, you clear out of the area of the fracas and regroup. This is a rather basic strategy of non-violent protests. In my opinion, the police will always have the upperhand with these non-violent measures by the dissenter, at least in America's case. They're accustomed to abusing their power, like you said, so protests without resistance allow the officers to have a field day. "'Most men will not swฮนm before they are able to.' Is not that witty? Naturally, they won't swฮนm! They are born for the solid earth, not for the water. And naturally they won't think. They are made for life, not for thought. Yes, and he who thinks, what's more, he who makes thought his business, he may go far in it, but he has bartered the solid earth for the water all the same, and one day he will drown."
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Protests involving pigs must remain nonviolent...it's not fair to just claim that all these people corrupted, whether or not they can think clearly and/or abuse their power, this is their occupation and how they maintain food/clothes/shelter. Given that we all currently operate within this capitalist paradigm, you can't fault these individuals; if they didn't work their jobs, someone else would (same and even moreso for CEOs). We need to end the system that allows for this, getting angry at the people for doing their job (regardless of how abusive they may be) benefits no one. Of course the pigs will always have the upper hand...the point is to show them and the world at large that the movement is committed to change through nonviolence. Once more people begin to see the dedication to non-violence and the fact that the protesters are trying to peacefully air their grievances, the potential for more people (including former pigs) to join the movement increases, even if they maintain media blackouts to the degree that have been displayed thus far. The people against whom violence should/may be unleashed are the "1%" if they should refuse to surrender their obscene wealth and privilege. Wiki โข Attitude โข FAQThe Nexian โข Nexus Research โข The OHTIn New York, we wrote the legal number on our arms in marker...To call a lawyer if we were arrested. In Istanbul, People wrote their blood types on their arms. I hear in Egypt, They just write Their names. ืื ืื ืืขืืืจ
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that video showing a bunch of girls getting tazed fenced in and maced was despicable. pure cowardice. shame on them. โ"I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect." J. Krishnamurti ~ The Dissolution of the Order of the Star. 1929http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erjAzA753sg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AEU5pBxY6E
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Thank you for sharing this Elru. For anyone who wants to get active, please check out http://takethesquare.net/ to learn some pretty useful information for setting up your own rallies and how to identify an agent provocateurs who try to disrupt the peace among other things. The occupancy in my city is starting next Saturday so I'm definitely looking forward to joining them. My heart goes out to you guys who are out there doing it. I can't wait to join ya! Convert a melodic element into a rhythmic element...
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http://occupytogether.org/Wiki โข Attitude โข FAQThe Nexian โข Nexus Research โข The OHTIn New York, we wrote the legal number on our arms in marker...To call a lawyer if we were arrested. In Istanbul, People wrote their blood types on their arms. I hear in Egypt, They just write Their names. ืื ืื ืืขืืืจ
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what is this march to brussel thing? 8th of october? my heart is with all these protests. I wish I could go. Whether it is the protests in bolivia against the highway or these against the capitalistic system. I feel this will to transform is in the air. perhaps we can finally overcome what has been dominating us for so long... I hope things move forward in a good way! Buon viso a cattivo gioco! --- The Open Hyperspace Traveler Handbook - A handbook for the safe and responsible use of entheogens. --- mushroom-grow-help ::: energy conserving caapi extraction
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SnozzleBerry wrote: mace @ 00:50 What the fuck is wrong with these pigs? How are people supposed to respect authorities when their representatives behave like this. Fuckin animals! โโโโโโ
DMTripper is a fictional character therefore everything he says here must be fiction. I mean, who really believes there is such a place as Hyperspace!!
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Leaving in an hour...hope to have pics and/or vids plus stories to share next week. <3 Wiki โข Attitude โข FAQThe Nexian โข Nexus Research โข The OHTIn New York, we wrote the legal number on our arms in marker...To call a lawyer if we were arrested. In Istanbul, People wrote their blood types on their arms. I hear in Egypt, They just write Their names. ืื ืื ืืขืืืจ
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Yay Snozz! Yell extra hard for a1pha! "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -A.Huxley
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There is supposed to be one in San Diego Oct. 7th, I shall be there. I have a friend who has been involved in the San Francisco occupation. Living to Give
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Hell yeah Snozz!! Be safe out there! Convert a melodic element into a rhythmic element...
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Any of you seen this guy I like his enthusiasm when telling Wall Street to fuck off  Funny guy. โโโโโโ
DMTripper is a fictional character therefore everything he says here must be fiction. I mean, who really believes there is such a place as Hyperspace!!
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Seattle had its 'Occupy Seattle' meeting. I looked online and these things are popping up everywhere. The enthusiasm I saw tonight was amazing. If you want to be a part of this, something our country desperately needs, go here http://www.occupythenation.com/My name is love, for I am without fear
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Very new to this... movement or revolution, it's incredible that it's happening the way it is, and exploding. Very scary that noone I know has heard a thing about it until now, scary how the media keeps a cap on it, goes to show the length of which they can filter our consciousness. I can FEEL it, this is amazing, I really do hope this continues, the push towards a far more improved global consciousness. Wow.. Thankyou.
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It really is amazing. I knew nothing about it until yesterday but I knew this was coming. Actually, if I may ask, have any of you been feeling like something is going to happen or that something is happening, in these last few weeks or months? I certainly have. My third eye chakra has been going nuts for the last week (in part due to an amazing first time experience with a certain lysergic tryptamine over a week ago). Then, the other day something inside my head just *clicked* and I knew something was up. I spoke to a few of my roommates, as well as the other people there tonight and two of them had similar experiences (minus the acid). Have any of you? My name is love, for I am without fear
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DMTripper wrote:Any of you seen this guy I like his enthusiasm when telling Wall Street to fuck off  Funny guy. I care about your happiness like I care about the happiness of a leech on my ass --- priceless. This guy really is pretty funny. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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