Good luck with the virola.

I'm yet to find a source that isn't bunk.

I would love to find some virola worth snuffing..so far I just hear the same as what you said soulfood..that it is all bunk.

That's a shame. Well, I'm gonna hope for the best anyway. They said it shipped, so now all I can do is wait, but I will surely let you know. I'm hoping that if I could at the least achieve even mild effects (hopefully using the sublingual method) that I could vape some DMT on top and see if that takes me to where I wanna go.

Virola and edible lime came in the mail today

I hope to let you guys know how it goes by tonight

ordered some lab grade 5meo, will try it out within a month or so

First I freebased 200mg virola, but had an awfully hard time making a good quid. I sloppily got as much of it as I could in my mouth, waited 10 minutes and swallowed the resin. After 20 min or so, nothing really seemed to be happening so I freebased 300mg more, this time making a better quid and held that under the tongue for another 10 minutes before swallowing. I noticed a very slight shift in head space, feeling slightly light headed and a tiny bit queasy, but no real effects. Even now, the next morning, the spot where I held it underneath my tongue feels raw.

Tonight I'm gonna try freebasing some for smoking. I don't have high hopes, but we'll see how it goes. If not, I'm gonna try 700mg freebased sublingually and if nothing much seems to be happening, I'll try smoking DMT to see if it will modify that experience at all.

Tried smoking 200mg freebased virola resin on top of a bed of blue lotus out of my bowl. It resulted in feeling relaxed and slightly euphoric, but nothing major. Will up the dosage tomorrow, and hopefully freebase it better.

SWIM would suggest, from SWIMs little experience, to use the two substances with different ROAs. 5-meo insufflated or, best, plugged, and DMT smoked few minutes later. They seem to work quite in sinergy in such a way, and is more confortable and relaxed than the two of them smoked together.

If one was to have both dmt and 5meodmt could they recrystallize them together? How would the best method be for that? same as regular xtalization?

I'm up to put my tryptamines into contribution
So I recently freebased some 100mg 5meo-dmt HCL, this wasn't weight as a freebase but should be around 70mg now maybe less.
This Freebase 5meo was then dissolve in IPA and mix with 200mg mullein flower, 100mg white sage (salvia apiana), 100mg calea z. 10X (mexican dreamherb enhanced), then some lion's tail flower (leonotis leonorus).
Once dried this mixture was weight to 600mg. It was then mixed together with an enchanted leaves containing 1000mg N,N-DMT and 900mg mapacho, white sage and lavender.
The mix is now ready to be vape.

Let us know how it goes

If all goes well, I hope to be making a contribution to this thread again as well

I will

Now still glowing from the experience of 53mg vaped in GVG, two tokes.
It shares features with changa, like the 5 MeO-DMT being able to stretch up the n,n-DMT experience.
This is a definitive good combination !

Sounds lovely, I have some 5MEO in my draw that I haven't tried yet, I think I might have to create some magic with it this weekend.

Would you say your ratio of 5MEO to DMT was good? Would you change it next time?

To be honest 3rdl, I liked it very much this way, as the 5MeO wasn't overpowering the n,n-DMT, but I've only vaped a moderate dose once, so I just need to go on. I have also pure 5meo-dmt freebase on some mullein ready to vape which I tried also in low dose. I really want to up very cautiously with this molecule. Not to freak out and never come back as it can apparently be much more traumatizing overdose than with our regular spice.
I don't want to find out

So a 1:10 5MeO to N,N is good for now, I might up a bit another time if I find I have enough a relation with 5M.

im gonna crack on with 1:10, but mine is in HCL form.

I will report back when i eventually take the plunge.

Cheers rOm

So HCL is heavier by weight for the dose, your mix will be even weaker on 5M or you freebase it, just mix with a third of carbonate sodium, water, mix well allow to evaporate (or heat to evaporate the water), you'll have 5meo-dmt Freebase.
Check the thread also in this forum section:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=30524

Good luck !

yeah i knew it was weaker but i only have 250mg and didnt want to loose any though conversion. Maybe i will free base a little to see what happens, chemistry is always fun

I will Maybe use 1.25/1.5:10 of the HCL aswell just to be thorough.

Cheers rOm.

Do it 3rdI, it is a well worth it tryptamine association.
Please report !