I've read that it doesn't last as long when smoked and also read that it does, so I'm confused. They can't both be right.

Doesn't make sense that it would last as long... at least not to me.

Yeah, that doesn't sound right.

The onset of smoked bufotenine is about 2-5 minutes and peaks after about 10-15 minutes and the oral route (which is unpleasant) has an onset of about 15-30 minutes a peaks at after about 45-90 minutes. However, oral bufotenine, after the peak, lasts just as long as smoked bufotenine does after the peak. So maybe that’s what they meant? I don’t know. I haven’t seen enough reports of smoked mescaline to really believe much of what I’ve read.

well look at the difference between weed smoking..and weed eating

5-MeO-DMT smoked lasts about 15 minutes, taken orally it lasts about 3 hours!

I dont know where, but i remember reading somewhere that smoking mescaline salts(freebase apparently is harmful to smoke, and the salts work) lasts from 1-4 hours. Quite a varancy there. If you could achieve any level of satisfactory results smoking pure mescaline and it the trip was 1-4 hours it would be quite desirable..10-12 hours is a long time, good to take camping.

where's you read it lasts as long? Would that limonene tek of yours work for smoking?Theoretically snorting should work too with shorter duration than orally right?

snorting mescaline? hmmmmm

I have to say I have heard many people talk about smoking mescaline or even peyote... but Ive allways thought it was Bullshit... until one of you trusted SWIYS prove other wise... im still going to think that...

I'm in the same boat. I'm skeptical. If it works, is as potent as oral use, doesn't have as much side effect, and its effects don't last as long, which is highly desirable for many people, then why is it that none of us seems to know anyone who's done it? There's a few reports of it here and there and they have conflicting statements in them. So I'm skeptical. I won't believe it until someone I know says it works.

SWIM says that snorting mescaline works, but neither as good or as pleasant as oral. He once snorted 150mg of mescaline fumarate. It was pretty horrible to snort it and it felt that it was way too much to put in one's nostrils. Very uncomfortable feeling. He had some visuals and happy feeling but not more than that. Nothing really impressive.

He does not remember very well about the onset time or the duration of snorted mescaline fumarate.

I think it would work, but you would need to boil the mesc instead of vaporize it. anyone know the boiling/vaping temps of mesc?

whatabout smoking freebase mesc ? and smoking the other alkaloids found in cactus ?
lots of swiy's here have mesc - why is nobody trying it ?

SWIM has a TON of work to do and can't trip right now, otherwise he would try it.

I bet freebased mescaline would work much better if smoked rather than mescaline HCl. Most psychedelics work better in their freebase form when smoked. I doubt mescaline is an exception to that rule. You could mix it with lime and some water to freebase it and then let it dry. The lime will prevent it from becoming oily if you add enough to it. Lime won't burn, so you could smoke the mescaline mixed right with the lime.

SWIM tried smoking like as little as 10mg(he didn't measure) mescaline acetate with minimal effects. When more mesc. comes in he will try a higher dose.

SWIM has a few grams of almost pure HCL so he can give it a shot within the next few days. He is concerned about the amount tho, 100-200 mg is a lot to smoke, do you think SWIM would need the same amount as he does orally for it to be active? He is concerned that the hcl could be harmful to his lungs, especially if he needs to smoke a lot.

Also, how much lime would one need? 1:1 ratio should do it right? And how would one go about smoking it? SWIM doesnt have any glass pipes or smoking apparatrus, he gave up all smoking habits over a year ago now.... a home made bong and mixed with some herbs would be fine right?

I would hope you wouldn't need the same amount as is needed orally, I think 69ron might be mistaken, those accounts that he read could have been wrong. I suppose the hcl could be harmful, try starting with 30mg. Lime? for basing, then hcl wouldn't be a problem right? I don't know of any base that would work to make it smokable, calcium carbonate is supposed to be no good for smoking form. SWIY doesn't have a smoking device, wow, dose a friend? Homemade would work. keep us updated. Too will I.

Just get your hcl or acetate or whatever and mix it with equal parts calcium hydroxide, then dry it and rinse with dry acetone, discard the solids and evap. You will be left with freebase mescaline, hopefully nothing else with it, depending on how pure it was in the first place.

The thing I hate most about smoking non-based materials is that they don't seem to like to cool down inside you and you have to hold your breath for ages and even then they don't seem to take on like bases do.

WOW awesome, so Soulfood, do you know anyone or anything about potency of smoking freebase mesc? How much works, if it does?

Is the caustic alkalinity of freebase mescaline any real concern? Can this damage lung tissue a little bit?

^thats what I have read in the past as well, but I dont know how credible the reports are...noone really seems to be doing this so it's all up in the air..