Is ceramic cleaner than the metal pads?

I’m not sure what you’re asking. The ceramic diffuser is located in the removable top glass piece. Metal mesh, liquid pads, etc. are used in the bottom of the bowl to hold liquid. Flame passes through the ceramic first, mixes with air in the chamber, then passes through the liquid pad (if present).

Are you asking if ceramic is generally cleaner than metal? The answer to that is yes. The ceramic diffuser is actually a disc of silicon carbide foam. It has a very high vaporization temperature – much higher than typical metals, and does not oxidize, so there is no risk of any fumes.

Definitely a single torch. Anything more than that and you run the risk of cracking the glass top piece which contains the ceramic element.

does the metal screen that comes with the GVG need to be used in conjunction when using a copper scrub or should the screen be removed? Also, is there any risk of poisoning from inhaling any copper byproduct fume?

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I think the vaporgenie people are just trying to warn others of possible problems so that they arent blamed for not stating it

The manufacture specifically states that torch lighters should not be used with the glass vapor genie, and that they've had cases where the ceramic heating element has broken due to the drastic change in heat. Has anyone here experienced issues with their ceramic piece breaking from using a torch lighter?

Do NOT use a torch lighter with the glass VG because torch lighters tend to cause the tops to crack.

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Here is some info on the ceramic filters and the various types. The GVG ceramic disc is thinner than the products usually made from that material and that is probably why it will crack.

Let’s nip this misinformation in the bud. To my knowledge, nowhere on the VaporGenie website are users cautioned not to use torch lighters in order to avoid cracking of the ceramic filter. The site specifically recommends against using a torch lighter with the glass vapor genie because of possible damage to the glass. (Keep in mind that the ceramic filters in classic vapor genies are identical to those in GVGs, yet no such caution against using torch lighters is given for classic VGs.)

I have never read a post here or elsewhere mentioning the cracking of the ceramic filter as a result of heat shock. These ceramic filters are used industrially under rather extreme circumstances and are very resistant to heat shock.

Until “fender1212” points us to the specific text stating that the ceramic filter may crack if subjected to heat from a torch lighter, I am going to assume that his statement is in error.

Bro, calm down I wasnt trying to say they are not a good product ( I am modeling my design after theirs). I posted information telling about their strength and heat resistance. ( I can find pics of a cracked disc if you would like )

I meant that if the GVG disc breaks its because its 6mm think and that is why it may not withstand the heat that the ceramic material is made to handle. Thant is all.