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Swim would like to say, that after tests with 1:1 pau d'arco mix, he sticks to the water bong machine. It's definatly smoother than changa. Moreover, he found changa very hard to light, even with a jet lighter. The good stuff ONLY comes out by burning the enhanced leave in its entirety...whcih is...not an easy task somehow.
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SWIM's panda found 1gr of dmt a few days ago. Since he travels a lot, he would like to make some changa to be able to bring the dmt with him. Thing is, he only has something like 3 days to do it and he's not sure about the ratio. 1:1 with only a gram of deemsteer would not be a good idea. Can anyone give some advice to SWIM's panda ?
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Just go 1:1. It's perfect.
2g's of changa's nothing to grumble at.
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The thing is, SWIM's panda is using Calea. And 1gr of Calea is ridiculously small. It looks like something you'd put in a single joint. So how would SWIM's panda be able to smoke it without using half of it in a single toke ?
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Dragunov Mylshka Teapot
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It should be fine, you'll be surprised how little you actually need for a good experience though if your worried make it 1:1.5, just remember to burn it really slowly when you smoke it.. SMOKE MORE DMT, SMOKE MORE DMT NOW
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Thanks for the advice. SWIM's panda finally went for a "homemade" mix : he calculated the amount of Calea he would use in the bong for each dose (~80mg) and multiplied that by 10 (because he chose to use 500mg dmt, and there's 10 strong/breakthrough doses in 500mg, if we consider that 50mg deemster = breakthrough dose ). So he used 800mg Calea for 500mg dmt. He still isn't sure about something though : the mix is sitting outside,protected from rain or wind, in a little open tupperware. Should he let it like that or should he put something on it (like a cd, coaster, ... ) ?
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Dragunov Mylshka Teapot
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That sounds good nice job. Try to keep it away from the sun, I usually leave it inside in an open room. Just be careful if using a plastic container as the acetone might eat interact with it, I put it in a small bowl with a flat surface and don't cover it with anything. You just want to make sure you dissolve all the crystal before you add the leaf and then just let it evap.. SMOKE MORE DMT, SMOKE MORE DMT NOW
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SWIM's panda little tupperware is almost completely dry. There's no more liquid but there seems to be some "residue" in the bottom and the leaves are still a bit sparky, like they're wet (but they're not). He thinks he's just gonna leave it one more night and then try it. Thanks for the tips anyways
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Dragunov Mylshka Teapot
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No worries, usually when all the liquid/residue has gone but the leaf is still damp/wet I'll scrap it up and spread it out evenly on a plate to air it out and help dry quicker.. Let us know how it goes, calea is amazing! SMOKE MORE DMT, SMOKE MORE DMT NOW
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Well SWIM's panda tried it. At first, he loaded the bong with around 40mg, which would be something like 25mg of freebase. He's new to dmt, so he wants to take it slow. He got some weird feelings and some slight visuals distorsions ( if he looked at the wall, it looked like it was alive/animated, constantly moving ). Today he tried with 80mg, which would be 50mg of freebase. It didn't blast through, it didn't even get more visual than the first time. But the "weirdness" was bigger this time, his body felt alien, like it didn't really belong to him or like he was watching his movements from inside his body if that makes sense, like he was a spectator more than anything. It wasn't more visual but much more of a "mindfuck". It was a strange, quick experience. He probably did something wrong (didn't hold the smoke long enough/light it correctly, needed more herb,...) but it was quite different from the only other time he tried dmt : in a bong, 50mg freebase sandwiched between two layers of Calea, one huge toke (couldn't take anymore hits because he started coughing, he forgot to put water in the bong :roll , everything around him started moving/transforming, the shapes, the colors, it was quite beautiful and lasted for about 4-5 min. Gonna keep on tryin'
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Chen Cho Dorge
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not as worth it with out the caapi leaf honestly...with out adding the caapi leaf you might as well just free base it, all your doing is smoking a bunch of plant material and putting that in your lungs for naught*** add some caapi leaf to that mix and you will really have something there... and you can smoke less and stretch out the spice as well... Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Dragunov Mylshka Teapot
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Psyckoz wrote:Well SWIM's panda tried it. At first, he loaded the bong with around 40mg, which would be something like 25mg of freebase. He's new to dmt, so he wants to take it slow. He got some weird feelings and some slight visuals distorsions ( if he looked at the wall, it looked like it was alive/animated, constantly moving ). Today he tried with 80mg, which would be 50mg of freebase. It didn't blast through, it didn't even get more visual than the first time. But the "weirdness" was bigger this time, his body felt alien, like it didn't really belong to him or like he was watching his movements from inside his body if that makes sense, like he was a spectator more than anything. It wasn't more visual but much more of a "mindfuck". It was a strange, quick experience. He probably did something wrong (didn't hold the smoke long enough/light it correctly, needed more herb,...) but it was quite different from the only other time he tried dmt : in a bong, 50mg freebase sandwiched between two layers of Calea, one huge toke (couldn't take anymore hits because he started coughing, he forgot to put water in the bong :roll , everything around him started moving/transforming, the shapes, the colors, it was quite beautiful and lasted for about 4-5 min. Gonna keep on tryin' Hmm, try: Smoking it at night with dim lighting, smoking more, holding it in for as long as you can, and burning it really slowly. SMOKE MORE DMT, SMOKE MORE DMT NOW
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My friend had follow the simple and easy receipe to make his own changuar and it worked very good he told me. He mixed caapi leafs, vine, damiana and salvia x7 with the NnDmt at a ratio of 1:2 (1 dmt/2 leaf), to work his way up to the heavens hehe.
Now he´s interested to do some more and he got really interested in this caapi enhanced extract (5x-10x cielo extract) and has a question about the solvents. Okey.. He is planning to make either a "5x or 10x" cielo leaf extract and then enhance a small ammount of the cielo extract + other herbs with NnDmt to make a sinchi changuarinchi haha.. Well, a member here says that acetone works good as solvent to make this 5 or 10x extract of cielo leafs..he understand that the process reminds the way cat would do his salvia x7 extract. BUT, my friend read a day ago or so in another forum that acetone wasn't so good solvent to make 5x cielo extract.
So the question is, what solvent should my friend "el gato volador" use to make his 7x enhanced cielo power? Can he use acetone or should he buy some other solvent, like isopropylalkohol? methanol? To extract the active alkaloids from the leafs He really would prefer acetone since he use it to extract salvia and hopes he can use it instead of the other named solvents..
Anyone with more knowledge about this x5 cielo power that would like to help me with information.. Please.. Oh and my friendly cat says thank you for the receipe..changuarinchi is really nice he says, powerfull candela..haha
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Chen Cho Dorge
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swiy would really just want to go out and get some some 190 proof booze... works perfectly as perfect can be... Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Does anyone else find pau d'arco enhanced leave hard to light up? 200mg of spice was dissolved in a couple of ml 96,5% ethanol and then used to soak 200mg pau d'arco in. Even with a jet lighter, it takes ages to light it up and then it won't really burn on it's own.
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Dragunov Mylshka Teapot
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Sounds weird, I've never really had that problem before even when the leaf was still partly damp, it usually burns just fine. Where did you get the Pau Darco from? maybe some pics of the herb .. SMOKE MORE DMT, SMOKE MORE DMT NOW
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On a side note, anyone know where to find Pau d'Arco leaf? I can only find the bark.. which works well, but i'd like to try leaf also.. cheers. balaganist is a fictional character who loves playing the game of infinite existence. he amuses himself by posting stories about his made up life in our plane of physical reality. his origins are in other dimensions... he merely comes here to play.
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I have an idea: dried A. Muscaria mixed with caapi & DMT. I wonder what it'd be like...
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Has someone tried to enhance weed? I gave a look on Search, but couldn't find nithing. Help? =) Bad, bad english
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Some folk do put weed in their mixes, it does work quite well. Just make sure it's all ground up nicely beforehand.
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