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Imagine this if you will...
You are God before creation: What is the dominant feeling? LONELINESS-because you are all that is, there is nothing else.
What do you do? CREATE You divide yourself, into infinite pieces and then let those pieces not remember the original loneliness. Allow the pieces to make there own choices. This way God can enjoy love and companionship.
Of course with the creation of love and companionship comes hate and discord (this is the Enemy)
God wanted me to tell you all the He was sorry for the hate and discord, His motive for creation was selfish. He created everything out of passion for love and he didn't expect the Enemy to gain as much hold over his creation as he did.
Love wins in the end. He told me not to fear death because we will all return to God in the end, the Enemy is just a trick (an illusion).
Remember this next time you feel like acting out in hate towards someone; we are all one in the heart of God!!!!!
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Quote:You are God before creation: What is the dominant feeling? LONELINESS-because you are all that is, there is nothing else.
Hey there, if you are all that is why do you think the dominant feeling would be loneliness, or that there would be a dominant feeling at all. Feelings as we are talking about them are a human construct, I would think that potentially infinite energy would have transcended what we describe as "feelings". Quote:This way God can enjoy love and companionship. Of course with the creation of love and companionship comes hate and discord (this is the Enemy) Why are the negative feelings the enemy? Like you said, without the negative feelings you can't have positive feelings. To appreciate the love that you have created you must also have hate. It's two sides of the same coin. If "God" created this universe/humanity I would think that it was more to *experience* in general. Quote:Love wins in the end. He told me not to fear death because we will all return to God in the end, the Enemy is just a trick (an illusion). If the Enemy (hate and discord) are just as illusion doesn't that mean love is just an illusion as well?
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Please, do not feel lonely, young god. You know as I know very well there hides a hypno toad in every one of us, and so infinite founts of thought and creation. There are no enemies in aidenn.
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Quote:Imagine this if you Will... The Crux of the Matter.... Please do not PM tek related questions Reserve the right to change your mind at any given moment.
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All Hail HypnoToad wrote:
Of course with the creation of love and companionship comes hate and discord (this is the Enemy)
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You know better than this. Hate and discord are not "the Enemy"; they are your best friends. They are tools called polarity that teach clarity. Cliched, but what are stars without the darkness? You need the darkness to taste the sweetness of your life. Your "enemy" is your trainer, your bodybuilding brother. And how does the body become strong? By adding more weight. Same thing with your soul. And if the trainer adds too much weight? Then the body breaks, and he was not meant to be a champion. And we know this is not true with humanity. Humans are meant to ascend, and all paths lead up the same mountain. Fear, belief, love phenomena that determined the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish. We cross and recross our old paths like figure skaters; our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future. ---David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
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All Hail HypnoToad wrote:
God wanted me to tell you all the He was sorry for the hate and discord, His motive for creation was selfish. He created everything out of passion for love and he didn't expect the Enemy to gain as much hold over his creation as he did.
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Really? Are you sure it was "god" you were speaking to? There are many "little g's" that will tell you many things. Prime Creator is an entity none of us have ever come remotely close to while wearing our human suits. And while I certainly do not speak for It (yes, IT, not He or She), I am pretty sure It is not "sorry" for ANYthing. Why would It be? Everything is perfect, and right on schedule. Fear, belief, love phenomena that determined the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish. We cross and recross our old paths like figure skaters; our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future. ---David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
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Alan Watts wrote:Tweedledee and Tweedledum agreed to have a battle, and there is always an agreement underlying this difference; that is what we call implicit, but the difference is explicit.. ...If we, therefore, forget, you see, that black and white are inseparable, and that existence is constituted equivalently by being and non-being, then we get scared, and we have to play a game called, “Oh-oh, Black Might Win.” And once we get into the fear that Black, the negative side, might win, we are compelled to play the game, “But White Must Win.” And from that start all our troubles. just remember.. "satan" always did (and continues to) sit at the left hand ov god... do you really think you can have yin without yang? My wind instrument is the bong CHANGA IN THE BONGA! 樹
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Well personally I am a satanist. Like God just wants to lock me in a garden and keep the best fruit for himself, its a bunch of b.s. Satan showed me the light, removed ignorance from my mind. Why does satan get such a bad rep anyways, he cares about you thats why he temps you and punishes you, he wants to make you a better person. Maybe God is the evil one and satan the good one?
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alone (all one) is not loneliness. loneliness is a human trait i feel. untouched nature, the stars etc, does not look sad to me. i feel you have projected, as we all do to some extent. one problem with a rapid increase in capacity is a rapid increase in psychological mischief. ive heard this notion of god creating so as to know itself...perhaps you had too? "only a closed mind is certain"
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To all the people here talking about the enemy and darkness as being "necessary" and good, I would like to interject the idea that there are many levels of duality in creation. Within the force of "Life" there is yin & yang. Both are positive forces that support life. But there is also "Antilife" which is absolutely not positive in any way. Its very existence is only to destroy life. Think of positive and negative polarity in matter... and then think of antimatter. Do not be fooled into thinking of antimatter as if it were just the negative pole of an electromagnetic system. It will destroy you utterly. Lucifer (for the satanist here) is NOT the most evil or dark force around. In fact, he is quite friendly and even helpful to humanity. The Hebrew word for him is not really enemy, but adversary... in the sense of the prosecuting attorney at the trial for your soul. The forces of light mount your defense, and the adversary tests you to see if you are truly worthy. But make no mistake, his job is to prove you unworthy. His temptations and offers of power will only mess you up if you accept them. Do as you will people, but I want to make it clear that there are "demonic" forces that make Satan seem like a kindly old uncle. He plays by rules. He actually has some stake in the human game... There are ancient parasites and hungry demons that simply resent life, unendingly. They are like black holes, and you will not be strong enough to escape their pull if you get too close to the edge. They can not be reasoned with. And they scare the fallen angels even more than they scare the light beings. The light beings do not fear them because they can not endure light. It is the grey and impure that must beware... for the most part. So be careful when you adopt a "neutral" point of view. You are playing with fire. "Curiouser and curiouser..." ~ Alice
"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it." ~ Buddha
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^excellent post. A very clear and scrupulous illustration.
Life whethers the elements, bouts of fatigue, the gravity. And man is an excellent mountain climber. A ruthless learner of balance in all things, as equally unpredictable as the weather.
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Hyperspace Fool wrote: ...............................Etc
So be careful when you adopt a "neutral" point of view. You are playing with fire. Every bit of this post is conjecture, opinion, and personal point of view (and, perhaps a dash of thinly veiled Christian propaganda?). The same could be said with my post, of course. I'm of the opinion that you have much more to fear from your FEAR of such so-called "demonic" forces than any unfathomable hell beast that drinks the nectar of AntiLife (a tasty brew to be sure). You manifest your fears--again, my opinion--so in that vein, you should be careful with your point of view. Nothing wrong with playing with fire--fire destroys, and fire Creates. Fear, belief, love phenomena that determined the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish. We cross and recross our old paths like figure skaters; our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future. ---David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
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Hyperspace Fool wrote: Do as you will people, but I want to make it clear that there are "demonic" forces that make Satan seem like a kindly old uncle. He plays by rules. He actually has some stake in the human game... .
Good lord, man, how can you be so damn sure of such things????? You really believe this? It is your right, of course, but I just find it baffling. Forgive my incredulity. I am, after all, a mere curious ape and chemical mountain chaser. I am of the opinion that the gods and the demons are all you and me, our full multidimensional selves playing the Game of Existence, and that it is not wise to condemn any part of yourself. Forgive. Fear, belief, love phenomena that determined the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish. We cross and recross our old paths like figure skaters; our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future. ---David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
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@ 112233 I fully understand your opinion. If I had less experience with these things, I would adopt a similar stance myself. You wouldn't know from reading what I have written here, but I am fairly well anti-religious... but I am a hardcore mystic. I came to mysticism from a very rational, logical background. I was a champion debater, and would have waded into the kind of conjecture I am spewing here with a warm scythe like it was soft butter. But alas, if one sticks with entheogens long enough, the accumulation of experience outweighs our preconceived notions and cultural prejudices. At a certain point, you have to be ridiculously obtuse to ignore what your repeated (albeit anecdotal) experiences are showing you. Now that I have 35 years of entheogen use under my belt... with well over 2000 journeys... I have stopped pretending that entities are all in my head and that we just project our fears. I might not throw it in people's faces at dinner parties, but I am sure as hell not going to sugar coat stuff for other psychonauts on a forum devoted to DMT. I freely encourage everyone to doubt me and the crazy stuff I say. I hope people would be smart enough to be critical. But I also have seen most of my most ardent antagonists change their tune over time. The fact is that you will find out for yourself if you stay with this stuff. Journeying is a kind of Out Of Body Experience... and like most of these kinds of experiences, it will eventually confront and challenge your beliefs about things like extra-sensory perceptions, non-local consciousness, spirituality, mysticism, subtle energies, other dimensions of existence, non-human intelligences... and parasites. Just to be fair, let us agree that physical parasites are astoundingly cunning and can even use various forms of scientifically proven mind-control. See THIS article if you don't know about this stuff. Seeing that this stuff is possible with physical parasites, and understanding that things tend to repeat themselves in different forms on other levels (as above, so below)... it stands to reason that there would be parasites in hyperspace as well. Considering how much higher the level of intelligence is in Hyperspatial Entities compared to humans, it makes sense to recognize that the Hyperspatial Parasites would be similarly more wicked and disgustingly effective than earthly ones. I don't say this stuff to encourage fear... as this is the food of many dark entities and only attracts them to you. But I think ignorance is not bliss here. People need to know what is going on. If you didn't know that mosquitoes caused malaria, you might not bother with a mosquito net. Just saying. HSF "Curiouser and curiouser..." ~ Alice
"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it." ~ Buddha
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112233 wrote:Really? Are you sure it was "god" you were speaking to? Yes! I am sure. When in the presence of the one who reveals himself as The Creator and He (I say He because He took the form of a man in my visions) shows you how it all started and it all will end, there is no doubt in my mind who I was in the presence of. I use the terms "God" and "the Enemy" for lack of better terms. Take it as you will. I in no way am trying to push a belief or view upon any of you. The Enemy I refer to is a important part of the creation, I agree 100%, but the Enemy is not the love and passion that created and it is not the end result, it's merely a tool of the creator to show love and compassion. I understand that God transcends human feelings, again I was using poetic license to try to describe that which there are no words for. This was merely an attempt on my part to share one of my most profound visions to date, I am not perfect and therefore cannot perfectly describe a perfect vision. That is why I invited you to use your imagination. Great responses by the way. I really enjoy the feedback!! I have to side with Hyperspace Fool on the matter, I feel like you may have seen some similar things. This was a very deep vision that I don't think many are ready to accept or believe, and that's OK. When you are ready the right things will be shown to you in your own time.
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i was of the possible understanding that lucifer, latin for light bringer, also meant the morning star as venus. in the bible (im not a christian) jesus twice refers to himself as the morning star. satan, i once read, comes from the word saturn, which incidentally and kind of fits too, is the planet that governs worldy power in astrology...the ability to exist and go forth in physical realm. taken to its negative extreme by humans equals materialism; a trait everyone has. in balance its a healthy attribute. demon is demonised from daemon...pandamonium > Pan Daemon. anything to do with nature spirits has unfortunately been demonised. nothing evil per se about any of these i don't think. its strange how some folk dislike organised religion yet take on all the spiritual demonisation it has fed out- not that its necessarily happening here. occult is ancient science. thats not to say there aren't dark forces. i don't think you need be concerned with them if you live rightly, not that i do. and to percieve anything clearly, surely one must be completely freed from any form of psychological desire and conditioning, as these obviously tint the window you look through...and very very few seem to maybe have done that in the whole history of man. on why you should question all mystical experiences http://www.jkrishnamurti...hp?tid=48&chid=56797"What do we mean by experience? Is there anything new or original in experience? Experience is a bundle of memories responding to a challenge and it can respond only according to its background, and the cleverer you are at interpreting the experience the more it responds. So you have to question not only the experience of another but your own experience. If you don't recognize an experience it isn't an experience at all. Every experience has already been experienced or you wouldn't recognize it. You recognize an experience as being good, bad, beautiful, holy and so on according to your conditioning, and therefore the recognition of an experience must inevitably be old." also, i don't feel that absolute evil is possible and maybe parasites can only attach to, or are a personification of, our own inane conditionings- drop them and you won't have to be concerned about "dark forces". edit: by definition an evil entity is in pain and this isn't fun and any such entity would gladly exchange this for joy, unless they're stupid, which is why absolute evil, to me, probably can't exist. i know hex'ers (casts bad spells on folk) who love nothing more than to get people all full of fear and wind them into a state of panic. if i live negatively then i provide the soil for weeds to grow, its on me. "only a closed mind is certain"
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Hyperspace Fool wrote:
Now that I have 35 years of entheogen use under my belt... with well over 2000 journeys... I have stopped pretending that entities are all in my head and that we just project our fears. HSF
Over 2000 journeys? That's over once a week for the last 35 years! Are you sure that you are leaving enough time to integrate your experiences to avoid falling into the trap of delusion and paranoia? Quote:i also don't feel that absolute evil is possible and maybe parasites can only attach to, or are a personification of, our own inane conditionings- drop them and you won't have to concerned at all.
Yes i agree. Evil is a human invention.
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You know, there was a time when I'd break out my saved up bible verses, present my points etc. And so on.. But in reality (which means what really) if you search, work things out, notice the subtle things, its hard to really say with any certainty, much more than "I dont know what the hell is going on, why its going on, or where its going too" Christian script has the, "your ways are not my ways"..etc. "no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor mind conceived that which awaits those who love 'the lord'"...so its plainly stated, dont guess, youll be wtong everytime, certain things are going to be beyond you for a moment in order for this to work.. the 'commandments' will take your one cup of spirit to master...what comes later, comes later. Who really knows "what" has brought us all "here" and why.... actually when you start to think about exactly whats happening you can lose your shit.... So, keep the commandments, theyre respectable and cancel alot of possible "distortion"...and just be cool with people. Who knows what the hell is going on but it can turn tragic quick..be good Adam, Ive gotten pretty thick into the philosophies of satan/lucifer etc. Be careful opening that book. It can and depending on how well you 'progress' will change you in ways that cant be "changed back". As I type this, if it were back to myself at say 20 yrs old Id laugh at me now.... human nature baby, if it can be touched tasted etc... i want to know personally. Which is how we all got here right. Just be careful, 'comfort zones' are but a wee bubble of illusion.... So...tl;dr - i have no idea what is going on, why its going on, or where its leading to. It is cool tho the boss here is alright with this kind of topic. Some sites cant handle such topics, so I take this as a good sign. (I will say, I wish it would all stop for a 1000 year nap. It seems God, like little children, enjoys breaking His toys) ...is this a dream or a memory
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hug46 wrote: Over 2000 journeys? That's over once a week for the last 35 years!
Indeed. The number would be far higher if you count every spice or changa blast off separately. I have been known to go for 5 or 10 blasts in a single session. The truth is that I have been to Hyperspace more than most college kids have had beers. I have met more entities than said kids have had slices of pizza. hug46 wrote:Are you sure that you are leaving enough time to integrate your experiences to avoid falling into the trap of delusion and paranoia? No. Who can be sure of that? Hehehehe. But I am doing much better than any other psychonaut I know... I have seen many waves of psychonauts come and go in my time. A great many psychonauts come to me for advice on these things. You don't find that many people who are still regularly doing entheogens at my age. My peers in this are all shaman, ayahuasceros, sadhus and mystics. I have seen young guns come into spice and be incredibly sure of themselves, only to be hyperslapped so hard they shudder at the mere thought of Hyperspace. I have seen plenty of people who were convinced that their philosophy on these things was sound, and that the dangers here were all paranoia and delusion... only to be broken down utterly. The mental hospitals and morgues are filled with people who balked at the dangers of the spirit world. Pride goeth before the fall. "Curiouser and curiouser..." ~ Alice
"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it." ~ Buddha
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Hyperspace Fool wrote: I am a hardcore mystic.
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Now that I have 35 years of entheogen use under my belt... with well over 2000 journeys...
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HSF Damn, son, you've been in the game longer than I've been alive. Kudos. I would have to say I would describe myself as a hardcore mystic as well, if a label must be attached. I am further out there than anyone I've met, with ideas most would consider insane (but am currently putting some those ideas in the form of a novel, a trilogy, that will, hopefully, have the effect of bypassing peoples' natural need for verification for each idea, since it is a story, and speaking directly to the reader's cellular memory by ringing True, firing the light encoded filaments within the DNA. It's a lot of fun.). I don't necessarily disagree with your point of view so much as the presenting it as absolute fact. Keeping the Question alive is important to me, for it enevitably leads to deeper levels of the Question--a metaphorical question of all mystical thinking. I can see researching, for example, the Archons (don't really know much, just that their supposed to be some higher dimensional alien force that feeds on emotional chaos, suffering and fear, which sustains them like food--don't quote me on that, and these may be some other force, their are so many, hard to keep track) and then meeting these, from your limited human perspective, pure evil entities, while journeying with our beloved molecule and becoming absolutely sure after repeated journeys that your human interpretation is Pure Fact, unchanging and fixed. But would it not be wise to say, Okay, this is what I know SO FAR......but I must be willing to change and let go of my beliefs with more experience (though, with you being in It as long as you have, perhaps a bit of your thinking has hardened like cement, and it would prove too jarring to change now)....to keep new ideas and interpretations more like a flowing river, rather than a frozen tundra? Motionless water, or ideas, lead to stagnation, a breeding ground for parasites and rot (and, yes, your malaria carrying mosquitos) A flowing brook bends and twists over and through every obstacle, shaping and polishing the pebbles with eons of unending change. It is the dirt and grit that become the pearl, the blacker than Hell hunk of coal that holds the potential to become a diamond. There is, perhaps, potential danger with such dogmatic surety. I know someone, as an example, who had such a profound night with the molecule, that he is now 100% convinced that he is Jesus Christ. No doubt in his mind whatsoever. I know that is not your line of thinking, but who am I to say he is not Jesus in the flesh? My surety that he is not can be viewed as arrogant an assertion as his claim that he is. So I keep the Question alive, and each Mystical Puzzle Piece that locks into place morphs the final image, expanding and growing in dimensions I couldn't have imagined; for each locked-in piece of the Puzzle, ten million more pieces form, incorporating new experience and wisdom. All the puzzle pieces are there, in the ever expanding Now, it's just that they do not even present themselves into being until a certain degree of consciousness is attained. Like certain things in quantum physics that do not appear unless they are being observed. Well, this is a much longer post than my usual single paragraph posts.......hopefully my tangent makes some tiny bit of sense.....................but I am prepared to rip it all up to confetti with new information, to take the wet clay in the process of taking form, smash it to an unrecognizable lump, and begin sculpting again. And again...Forever. Fear, belief, love phenomena that determined the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish. We cross and recross our old paths like figure skaters; our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future. ---David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
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