So, I was looking into the 2 liter method, to see if anyone else had an idea on how to vape a LOT of it and blast off in 1 hit.
<by the way don't worry - I won't use foil>

In the process, I found a FEW videos of people supposedly journeying out into hyperspace(youtube deletes most of them).

Most of these people are young, they look like high school kids.

Yet, the few people I know who do it are older (27+).
Is it becoming more mainstream?

They didn't even teach us about it in school. I found my old binder from 9th grade, and it had my Health class work in it. And there was a huge section over tobacco, alcohol, and drug use.
NONE of my papers went over DMT or the effects of it.

I know word of mouth is all it takes. But almost every video online appeared to be of a kid.

Is it becoming more popular?
Is it going to become an issue?
Should we be worried about more enforcement with the laws and news coverage?

I have a lot of friends, and I don't talk about it to people who don't do it. I just don't think they could handle the conversation and understanding of it...

Yes, and it has been for years. Between Youtube, Joe Rogan, the Drugs Inc. documentary about a Detroit "spice cook", and more positive documentaries like The Spirit Molecule, DMT has become more and more popular. It has already became an issue and law enforcement is already well aware of this particular substance (even if what they "know" is incorrect).

When I had first heard about DMT in the 90's I had never even met another person who had heard of it. Now if I go to any jamband show I can smell it in the parking lot.

Of course, when there is something as amazing as this molecule people are bound to talk about it. Especially when it is found all around us/within us in nature. I am just glad to be able to have a site like the Nexus to talk to like minded people who are actually intelligent about it's use and implications. I'm personally glad I never smoalked in high school.



Nexians might have a bit to do with those deletions

They flag them for deletion?

why?

The *Official* YouTube / DMT Discussion Thread

TL;DR

Youtube video's that showed irresponsible kids doing dumb stuff on Salvia d, made Salvia d illegal in several states.

To prevent the same thing happening with DMT we often flag down those crazy DMT video's.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

Yup I'm going to help now.

Thanks yall.

Remember the whole Salvia debacle with all the youtube videos? Lawmakers using them as fuel to the fire of paranoia and misinformation to present it in a negative manner.


That is really disconcerting. More people in my area are becoming aware of it, I suppose, but being a 'jamband' musician myself I still don't see it or smell it. There's discussion and interest, but very little else. Although I find it's the musician/artist types that are the ones expressing interest.

It's kinda funny, cause I've been to a couple jamband shows with one friend who always says he can smell it in the air, and I simply never do. Even when he says it, I'll try sniffing around, but never detect anything.

Im kind of like your friend. I have an amazing sense of smell (and taste) so I can pick a teaspoon of alcohol/beer on a grilled chicken.

I've never seen it in public, but I can smell it outside of my friends house. And he doesnt do it that much.

Once my room mate at some chocolate donuts and I smelled them upstairs with my door shut 

I'm weird though.

Let me elaborate, I smell it nearly all the time (at shows in my area), but I have *seen* people smoking/selling at shows or in show lots as well. This isn't some psychosomatic thing.

Heck, I have seen people walking around in the lots saying "Deems, Deems here" over and over waiting for a response.

...and that right there makes me want to cry.

I have actually seen a person doing this who camped beside me at a festival..and when I spoke to them I found out they had never even experienced DMT, and said they couldn't test what they had because it belonged to the "supplier".

Festival culture is, IME full of this..so much for the whole burning man/festival thing as a picture of an ideal way. It's not..at least from what I have seen. Festivals are awesome but that whole scene has a long way to go..either that or I have unrealistic ideals. Probly both.

What bothered me the most is when I saw people, once even a friend, walking around going on about "dims". At one point there was even colored DMT..like food colored DMT or something..or so I heard..

Idk apparently these people have never smoked a breakthrough dose. Because I find it abhorrent to imagine behavior like that going on. It does seem to be the case the most people that are not educated about spice, end up smoking it in joints or other of the more wasteful methods, and have never broken through.

Me and a friend who has smoked dmt before this way and then smoked a dose out of my gvg said that it wasn't even comparable to his other dmt experiences.

Sadly people that don't even understand the power of dmt are ruining it for those that respect it. I hope this type of behavior stops because it is just plain ignorant imo.

A lot of festivals I have gone to really just upset me the way people disrespect the power of these tools. There is nothing wrong with having fun. But people seem to be totally clueless and simply want to get "fucked up" or go out of there minds as if that is cool.

I don't understand it.

Someone probably mentioned this already, but I would expect online videos of DMT use to be a poor representation of the real statistical demographics of DMT users. In other words, that all Youtube videos of DMT use involve teenagers is not evidence that most DMT users are teenagers. Rather, it is so because only teenagers are dumb enough to put such videos online.

Joe Rogan is a fool.
From what i've seen on youtube, those kids dont breakthrough, they just trip hard, "Access Denied"

While I may have initially agreed with your diagnosis of the man, after listening to the him I have to say he is far from ignorant. He is is neither ideal nor a sage, but the man has knowledge to be shared.

Just my $.02

Please don't disregard everything he has to say because of a few ignorant quotes. No one is perfect, but I believe this guy has positive intentions. Whether he has demonstrated his intentions in an agreeable manner is debatable, but there is no need to straight out attack the man.

I sincerely believe DMT has shown him some of the same sacred knowledge it has bestown upon many of the members here.

I'm not asking you to like nor respect the man, but at least give the time of day to listen to what he has to say. He has been an immense positive motivation upon my life.

I've watched/listened to quite a few Joe Rogan podcasts and I would have to agree, he isn't a fool. He's a human being. None of us are perfect. He's a comedian after all, and maybe that's why he comes off as abrasive or ignorant to some people. He's really an interesting character though, and does have a lot to say about psychedelics and other interesting topics.


That's terrible...I would definitely have words with someone doing that.

Yeah, one of the videos, the kid is like "I can see the music notes!"

I dont know... it didnt seem real.

I think fake tripping could be yield a much worse impression than the real thing.

For me, when I come out of it, I love life and animals more than you can imagine. I'll grab my/someone's pet and just hug the crap out of it.
Which I think would look better than a kid flopping around in his parents house, going crazy like hes on pcp...

Anyway, I'm flagging these videos from now on.


Also, do cops (like a regular cop) know what the spice looks like?

Listen to what he has to say?
I have been a massive UFC fan for many years. So i know Joe Rogan quite well , even though i dont actually know him.
I'm also quite a good judge of characture ( i suppose we might all think that of ourselves?).
I am also allowed my own opinion
As the years go by and the more i listen to him, the more i dont like him.
I also wish he'd stop going on about "ego"
On the plus side ,he is the best UFC commentator.
You guys should be on my side i'm real /// he's from the TV... The worst thing ever "TV"

I do not know that anyone is in too much of a position to judge when someone is fake tripping or not. Whether we like it or not utube is an outlet for peoples experiences and, for better or worse, some prefer it to the written word.
I agree with flagging irresponsible and unsafe use but i am in two minds over people tripping in front of a camera for all to see. If anything it is just a little dull.

I don"t think there is anything wrong with Joe Rogan. He talks some sense and some bollocks. Just like the rest of us.

2x (yes)^2 All the extraction teks etc are not bad but made it essentially possible to use DMT as a DRUG just for fun and amusement. Of course I know these teks are only ways of getting pure dmt but in a society like this it will backfire soon.
What happens when a substance (in western world) is not seen in "sacred" context anymore can be seen quickly. There (are) will be many people trying to promote and sell without any ethics just to make $.

DMT in the real form( sacred not DRUG form) is not FUN and you would never use it for entertainment.
People who are educated can still use the Pure DMT in a non-drug way but the fact remains that people will use it as a drug now and in future.
Before the teks and stuff there was only one way to do dmt and that was ayahuasca or analog which cannot be used in a drug way. Too unpleasant.
Since it can be smoked (and is promoted by some people thinking they can do something good promoting) many people just take it for fun or entertainment, which is ok but pretty much drug use also because there is no ritual or anything else involved which could fuel some learning etc. Its also funny most DMT Docs and movies.... always forget to tell you about the negative side of DMT that can happen.. Almost like with lsd where almost noone tells about the "bad trips". This happens much more frequently with dmt, but not many want to talk about that.

Issues arise out of the abuse of a drug as powerful as dmt without proper guidance. Psychic related problem, probs with society and most important if the problem arises in a society that is NOT equipped to handle these things at all the kids are really FUCKED!
Then there is the legal status which makes it available and desirable for young kids (under 21) to get this stuff. Personally I would NEVER allow anyone under 21 or older to take something like this... To much is in development at this age.

Then people get on some meds because of that all which makes it worse and so on.
This also makes it in turn so easy to put a stigma on it again. Society cannot handle it so it is made illegal. Since this is already illegal you know they will try make other things illegal too