Hello citizen's of the nexus

I have spend a lot of time reading Cyb's Tek, but I have some deeper questions that I didn't find. I really like to know WHY I'm doing this & that during a process like this.
Not only follow the Tek step by step without zero knowledge of what the compound's "job" is to each other.

I have everything ready, only missing the MHBR. But I wanna get some deep knowledge first, can anybody help a noob out?

Like, what does the Salt, Lye etc. do, and why that measure, you got the point.

Thank you

ll

EDIT: IF Cyb is reading this, thank you for the PDF tek, you are amazing.

Hello,

If you would read a couple more teks and some tek-related threads, many of your questions will be answered...

But I can offer a little bit of insight, since I've already spent the past few weeks "studying"...

The salt is added to raise the ionic strength of the solution, which helps to "push" the alkaloids into the non-polar solvent...You should use demineralized water rather than regular tap water for the same reason...

The lye is added to raise the pH, which should be around 3 in your acidic solution, to about 13, thus turning the dmt (which is an acetate in the vinegar/water solution) into a freebase molecule so it can be picked up by the nps later...

Most of the measures are probably the result of "trial and error" experimentation so to speak - no offense to Cyb if he should read this ...

Feel free to ask more, but don't be afraid to read and re-read faq and wiki, use google, check wikipedia,...

PLUR

Thanks for answering me dooby/PLUR

yeah, I'm on my way there bit my bit, it's so much to learn.. but you made my view on it clearer now. Guess this night will be a study night as well.. To bad I didn't pay more attention in the chem class on school back in the days..hah

Have a great one!

If you read the MAX ION pdf, it will explain further.
Also SALT here.


Actually dooby, filtered water is prefered as the minerals themselves help with the ionic strength.

When given the choice between demi and tap water, would demi be the better choice? Should more salt be added to compensate for the lower ionic strength of the demi water?

Really tap water is just fine...it's just a medium for the solutes to reside in while the basing action turns the molecule to freebase.
No more salt needs to be added than is required.

Thank you, this is the info I was searching after, but hard to find since I didn't know what Max Ion was. Anyway, I was thinking, how will the outcome of the process be if I mix the solution in a food bowl of glass? And instead of "shaking the mixture" in a jar I can mix it by hand, with a tool of course.

Again, thank you for your time.

LL

There is a reason why people Don't do this with wet teks...

The solvent has to 'touch' every part of the mix but it 'wants' to stay separate...
It will slip and slide over the mix and won't stir in very well. This is why the mixing is done in a sealed vessel...so that a rolling/shaking action can mix the two together.
It may be possible but you would need a very large/deep bowl (bucket?)...you don't want to be splashing Lye mix and solvent anywhere near your skin/eyes and safety precautions Must be adhered to.
Just get yourself a large glass bottle with a lid/bung/cork/screw cap.
A litre vodka bottle will do...

Don't risk it with a bowl.

Then I will use a Jar Cyb

So, I got my mimosa hostilis today, but the only thing I'm missing is the Lighter Fluid and was wondering if I could use this? http://www.teknikmagasin...p;title=Zippobensin&

Naphtha, newport and swan etc is not available where I live. Ore I could just order it from ebay.

I always get mine from ebay, its the cheapest place i've found. There are plenty of cornershops or what have you around which sell naphtha based lighter fluid

SO this one will to the trick? http://www.ebay.com/itm/...&hash=item20d812543e

I just want to make sure I'm getting all the correct tools before I start this project

if its not 'illegal' in your region, just buy this.

http://www.amazon.com/Kl...8-1&keywords=naphtha

http://www.ebay.com/itm/...&hash=item2a32520c21

But i have some ronsonol lighter fluid in my garage, no mention of naphtha on the back or the msds. but i have heard that if it evaps clean then its good to go.

It can't be shipped to Norway,, But any thoughts around the Ronsonol I linked?

thx datdmt

i see a lot of contradicting information, but the ronsonol msds say it has Aliphatic hydrocarbons

http://www.local510.org/...sheets/Ronsonol_MSDS.pdf

and the wikipedia article on naphtha says it is a form of Aliphatic hydrocarbons. so i would say order it and give it a shot. OR locate the environmentally safe tek, and see if it uses another non polar solvent, and see if norway allows that solvent.

Thanks bro.

So, I have come to the naphtah chapter on your tek now, and was wondering, is it normal that the naphtah seperates within seconds? Just wondering since you wrote that this process would take 45 mins. 4x And i can see on your picture you got bobbles on the bottom layer of the mix, I dont see that on mine.

Perfectly normal.
Just keep mixing and leave to sep...you can do this as many times as you wish (4 or 5 rounds is usually enough for one pull.)
The more you mix, the more it will pick up the molecule

Oh, breath taking, thanks for a fast answer Cyb I'm like a child on Christmas right now, only minutes left before I can start my first pull, I noticed when I did the figure 8 "shake" some of the mixture was "clumping" on the bottom of my bottle, but it let go. Looks like everything is going the correct way, I think. I post a picture tomorrow

EDIT, my first pull was not milky, it was only "blank".

Okey, I failed on my first attempt, I had a measure tool that was showing uncorrected numbers, so every substance (lye,vinegar,salt,water,naphtah) I put in the mix was measured 20ml more than it should be, and I used under 50g of mhrb because my weight failed on me.

I knew something was wrong when I added the naphtah because the solution was really thin and the naphtah seperated way to fast, I have this idea that if the naphtah seperates slowly it pick up more molecules, ore am I wrong?

Now I just added the Lye, and the mixture is chilling with some low heat, and this time I pulverised the bark 100%, only the fibers wont get pulverised. I think this time will do it.

The noob.