I have 50g of acacia confusa root bark.

Can anyone give me a working recipe for Chinahuasca?

I'm aware of mindbody's thread, but I was hoping for more recent, collectively-verified findings.

I'm pathetic: after several days, I'm the only one to respond.

Does anyone have any dosage recommends? 3g of Syrian Rue? 12g of ACRB? Any recipe like that?

from that thread you linked:

I'm embarrassed that you found what I had overlooked; I should have read more carefully.

Thank you.

From one recipe I came across, it states that 60 grams of ACRB is enough for 4 people, so around 15 grams of bark per dose...

and 15-16 grams of Syrian rue seeds split between 4 people, ~ 3-4 grams of seeds per dose.

Thank you!

Now I'm on the hunt for a trusted method of preparation. Yes, I already checked the wiki; there's not much information provided there.

I've seen various ingredients (e.g., vinegar, lemon juice, etc.) mentioned, but I was just hoping for a tried-and-true process that other members reliably use.

Thanks!

So, you are researcher in unkonwon terretory.
But be careful with the dosage. If ACRB has 2 % Tryptamin content,
I would rather start with 2 oder 3 gramm (note: 12 gramm = 240 mg dmt/nnt )
show patients, when discovering new pathes

Good luck....and post a report please

extract and take pharmahusca ?

Xtals are confirmedly challenging to extract from ACRB.

I'd start with 4g rue and 8g acacia, then work your way up with more acacia by increments of 2 grams until you're happy, just to be safe...
Keep in mind that you can always redose, an hour or two after the first glass...

who cares?
goo is just as good to eat (if not better).

also brewing isn't rocket science.

you are just trying to saturate the water with bark.

personally i don't like adding acid as it effects the taste.

you may or may not want to fine the brew (i would imagine the tannin content is similar to mimosa as they are related plants, if that is the case add an egg white to a cool, unreduced brew then reduce the brew to cook the egg&tannins out).

it is said one should do 3x30, but i go by color, and do brews until the color change is miniscule.

it mostly ends up being 3-4 brews anyways (though time varies by how much water i added etc).


one more piece of advice: dose low, but brew multiple doses so you can work your way up if it isn't enough.

make sure to allow adequate time to properly gauge your sobriety level (don't want to make the classic rookie mistake of re-dosing before the first dose hits)

I make my acacia brews at around 10grams rue and 15 acacia. Perhaps i'm using too much rue... lol

yea, 5 grams is considered a large dose.

though harmalas are so subtle its not all that uncommon for people to drink more than they need.

3-5g is a solid dose for just about anybody.

15g sounds a bit much acacia too.

tbh it sounds like you are brewing two doses, lol.

That would explain the terrifying experience of thinking my soul may be devoured by a demon

I unexpectedly had an opportunity last night to consume chinahuasca. Since I am typically very busy, I seized the chance to take advantage of available time. Given the inability to fully schedule all steps in advance, I could not follow all of the advice perfectly.

I boiled 10g of ACRB for 3 hours, strained the liquid, then put the ACRB back on the stove with completely fresh liquid for another 1.5 hours of boiling. In other words, I only boiled for half of the advised time (i.e., 4.5 hours, rather than 9 hours).

I boiled 3g of Syrian Rue seeds for exactly one hour; then, the seeds were strained out.

I drank the Syrian Rue "tea" 25 minutes before the ACRB (which had some "sediment" included).

At 2 hours and 15 minutes, I vomited; one hour later, I vomited again. 30 minutes after that, I fell asleep for the night.

The vomiting seemed quite late, and nausea was mostly present the whole experience--sometimes it receded in intensity, but it was rarely entirely absent.

The experience was very lightweight. I certainly had routine (not to say unappreciated) psychedelic effects (e.g., what was once familiar now seemed novel, greater compassion toward others, distaste for the artificial, etc.). I also had some visual effects (e.g., slight tracers with moving bodies, etc.). However, I was surprised such heavy nausea was not balanced by greater psychedelia.

I am in this boat right now.

I plan to make goo or xtals from my acacia confusa, but one thing beforehand is in my mind.

Is it active, for whatever reason, without a MAOI?

I have heard you are not supposed to boil, but simmer.

I have mine simmering away right now, plan to drink the brew tomorrow.

To be honest, I expect vomiting and very light physical effects.

I just have to know; it would be amazing if it actually is orally active itself

for a real DMT like experience.

After that. Xtals or goo. Not really in the mood for keeping this stuff

around for aya journeying.

I'm pretty sure that you would need MAOI unless it had 5-meo-dmt or an MAOI in the bark itself. That would be great if it was active!!
Let us know.

I know, for sure that if one takes a MAOI that acacia is something else.
My acacia came from Hawaii, not sure if that makes a difference.
It is also trunk bark which I have heard has much less yields
of DMT and NMT. Maybe it is NMT or B carbolites that make it
active. Maybe it is just a myth completely or maybe it will
have the feeling of taking a sedative. I just want to know the truth.
Even if it requires a lot of physical discomfort without any effects,
LOL. Have plenty of DMT laying around so if it is not working and I
do not feel it I will just smoalk little by little until it is over.

I will let you guys know how it goes

Unfortuntely I do not yet have experience with ACRB, but the best experience I've had with mimosa (granted this is less than half a dozen times) was a brew that contained 3g rue to 20g MHRB. I drank one dose, didn't feel anything for 90 minutes, then drank another dose and got hit hard for a solid 3 hours.

From what I've read this is a high dose for most people, but I was never at the point where I lost awareness of my surroundings. To the point: try a higher dose

(NOTE: I am definitely one of those peeps that requires MAO inhibition prior to ingestion of DMT. I am not suggesting you ingest a 40g dose of root bark but rather 3g of rue, then another 3g of rue with 20g of bark

All in tea form of course

Also, this brew was clarified with gelatin while just taken off the heat and the tannins bound right up and could be easily scooped out then filtered with a metal coffee filter. Brew was left to settle for several days and decanted (several rounds of this) and the resulting brew was very clear with a slight pink / yellow tinge to it.