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New Verison DVR with mic and camera watches you watch t.v.? Options
 
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#1 Posted : 12/26/2012 9:54:16 PM

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"Google TV, Microsoft, Comcast, and now Verizon have all submitted patent applications to create televisions and DVRs that will watch you as you watch TV"


"The DVR will also build a profile about you, picking up on your "preferences, traits, tendencies."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/m...vertising_n_2246973.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/...doing-and-saying-2012-12


This hasn't hasn't been made available yet, but It's been patented,(edit patent pending) if you haven't killed your T.V. already you might want to consider it.
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#2 Posted : 12/26/2012 10:11:31 PM

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Yeah heard about this...
If they can't inject i.d. implants...they'll get your 'best friend' to spy on you...

WTF is up with this world...(facepalm)
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#3 Posted : 12/27/2012 1:20:27 AM

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ntwhtyouknw wrote:
if you haven't killed your T.V. already you might want to consider it.

amen
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#4 Posted : 12/27/2012 5:57:19 PM

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I already get a little uneasy with my roomate's kinect sitting there and...staring at me. But this, this is just insane.
 
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#5 Posted : 12/27/2012 6:02:25 PM

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TV >__<


its pretty much obsolete now anyways, with the way the interwebz been going. i don't even own one anymore



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#7 Posted : 12/27/2012 6:55:30 PM

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Threw out my TV a few years ago...
One of my better decisions...


This is however pretty extreme, in my opinion. It's literally spying on people with their acknowledgement. But who would actually buy such a TV?
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#8 Posted : 12/27/2012 7:08:13 PM

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Erase wrote: But who would actually buy such a TV?

Prehaps the coming generations will be conditioned into accepting this technology by years and years of advancing smart phones and the like.

It is pretty sickening to imagine a day could becoming when people might allow or even want this in their home... in the name of safety maybe?

Either way when I have kids without having to shelter them I pray that I can raise them with common sense and moral values enough to understand things like this are wrong, When I was ypung t.v. was loaded with wholesome morals and Ive seen it slowly deteriorate from family values to jersey shore.... sickening I say...
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#9 Posted : 12/27/2012 8:05:10 PM

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#10 Posted : 12/27/2012 10:32:29 PM

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But think of all the time and energy it would save me having my television decide what I want to watch for me!

People are lazy (as broad, sweeping generalizations go). This will be marketed as a feature for suggesting programming you might not normally have the volition or inkling to access on your own. The real issue is just how much identifying information comprises your "profile", and collateral damage in the form of visiting friends or roommates. Targeted advertisement is the end game, with the programming itself merely being a vector and sales pitch.

Inherently this is not evil, though I would never voluntarily participate in streamlining and automating the marketing department of 'Conglomo Corp'. The damage comes in the form of who that information is sold to, and it goes way beyond viewing (or browsing) habits. That data in conjunction ith pattern recognition software (i.e. the trapwire mess) paints a very specific picture of who you are and what you are likely to do or say much more than anything you'd ever volunteer to anyone.

Nothing electrical tape or wire cutters can't fix. Get concerned.when this feature becomes mandatory for continued service.
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#11 Posted : 12/28/2012 12:45:11 AM

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relent wrote:
The above post is purely fictitious.

not this time...
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#12 Posted : 12/28/2012 4:28:07 AM

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And naturally these corporations would submit to subpoenas from LEO. It's insane that such a thing could even be proposed to the public in this day and age, but look at how eager people are to share their deepest secrets with the world via FB and Twitter. It makes sense in a sad, scary kind of way.

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#13 Posted : 12/28/2012 4:59:58 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDs1rMzn5ew
this is why they are doing that.
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#14 Posted : 12/28/2012 5:55:19 AM

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Well people recoil at the idea of RFID implants yet almost everyone on this planet already carries a gps tracking device in their pocket. You can't even activate a cell phone anymore unless it has a gps transmitter. My wife had an old phone and she tried to get service.. no dice, by law it must have gps "incase of emergency"

People give up their rights willingly when it's done gradually and systematically. Look at the patriot act... the things in there would NEVER have been tolerated on Sept. 10th... now, they can come and legaly take you into custody INDEFINITELY for being SUSPECTED of terrorism, which can mean many things, hell write out a check to the wrong organization or make the wrong post on a forum and off you go! Wait, there's a knock at my doo
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#15 Posted : 12/28/2012 9:28:23 AM

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Guyomech wrote:
And naturally these corporations would submit to subpoenas from LEO. It's insane that such a thing could even be proposed to the public in this day and age, but look at how eager people are to share their deepest secrets with the world via FB and Twitter. It makes sense in a sad, scary kind of way.

TV free since 1990, baby!

We have a winner.

Not only would they have footage of the room withthe heaviest traffic in your home, the data mined about you would allow them to track personal habits, preferences, and interests. This seems harmless ("so they know I watch House. Big deal."Pleased, but the real data has nothing to do with what you're tuning in to.
Cross reference your behavorial habits with other easily accessible information (google searches, online purchases, whatever they can subpoena), and 99% of the detective work has been done for them. It'd be very difficult for you to then make a 'move' that isn't anticipated, and any deviation from your routine would be obvious ans tip them odd that you know you're under surveillance. Privacy is rapidly becoming a myth, and we have to find novel ways to adapt.
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#16 Posted : 12/28/2012 10:37:23 AM

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G wrote:
I don't care. Earth cameras don't phase me.

You do realize that there are millions upon millions of people in the world?

Chances are, you are not interesting enough to be monitored by video cameras.


The concern isn't about "being watched by Big Brother". The concern is about miniizing the disclosure of information which could feasibly be used against you or provide an evidentiary trail in the event thatu you were ever accused of anything sundry. It's risk mitigation and plausible deniability, like keeping your solvents and lye seperate. No, we aren't likely to be important enough to be monitored, until something said, done, or purchased results in catching the attention of LEO. I don't want a camera in my living room for the same reason I don't want an unsecured access point.
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#17 Posted : 12/29/2012 12:02:31 AM

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G wrote:
Paranoia, Self Destroya

i don't think considering the possibility that all the monitoring and information gathered could be admissible in court in the future would be "paranoid". it seems pretty reasonable to me... unless you have something to suggest otherwise?

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#18 Posted : 12/29/2012 12:36:36 AM

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Say what you will, a certain level of paranoia is healthy
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#19 Posted : 12/29/2012 12:54:42 AM

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I seem to remember reading the other week there that the patent for this was denied so dont panic yet Smile
 
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#20 Posted : 12/29/2012 5:11:25 AM

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It could be taken in that context G, and I don't mean that at all, but realize people will. It's just odd to think one day people might give up their privacy in this way one day. I mean It's on a whole other level from Facebook and cell phones, having a camera on ourselves, for some people most of their time at home?

Just the possibility that anyone could be watching, I'd be more worried about the cable guy.
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