I dont understand this world anymore guys.
This is 20 min from where i grew up. Such a quite little town.

http://edition.cnn.com/2...hool-shooting/index.html

I hope this tragedy helps people in the US think harder about gun laws. The killer had four weapons, including an assault rifle, and a bulletproof vest.

Someone tell me what's wrong with including a mandatory psychological profile and a license when purchasing a gun, because I just don't get it.

Very sad news. Is it known if the person(s) snapped or got a wrong idea planted somewhere along their line?

Gun violence is definitely a big problem... that I hope someone finds a solution for.

Yesterday a man opened fire on Xmass shoppers at a mall in Portland, Ironicly my other home. I dont understand why this happens every holiday season somehwere in America but it seems to.

Wish we never had our right to bare arms in the first place. Now there are so many guns in my country it almost feels futile to try and stop the sales to people like this but we should at least try.

Wake up law makers...it aint getting any better. .

This statement from the Whitehouse- 'this is not the time to talk about gun control'.

Of course, they are perfectly aware it's in times like this when the momentum could start to change things, and they don't want things to change because they have close buddies in the gun industry.

The president shows up and what he does is cry and speak of the poor little children who lost their future and so on. Then wipes off a tear, and encourages everyone to mourn and think about the poor little kids, not the freak free gun market. If he was really up to his responsibility he would show up firm, pissed and promising they're going to find solutions so this won't happen again. But that's not in the agenda.

Its like one ER surgeon saying to another- This is no time to talk about medicinen people are dying!

of course not! we need to heal this patient with laughter, i need 50 cc's of bill hicks, stat!


the figures are a little outdated, but the point remains.

In all fairness, that was the Whitehouse press secretary saying (correctly) that now is not the time to politicize the tragedy, and he made that comment in the press room within an hour of the story breaking.

Hopefully, this will be an impetus toward a desperately needed change, but I wouldn't count on it, quite frankly. The gun lobby in this country is an incredibly powerful force.



Do you honestly think that Barack Obama has "close buddies in the gun industry", or that anyone staunchly opposed to gun control actually cast their vote for him?

Yet another horror. Two months from now most of us will have forgot it ever happened. Those who are directly connected to the loss will, of course, never be able to forget.

Gun control is one thing, but there is an even bigger set of questions to be addressed... What is it about our society that causes this to happen more and more? Violence is institutionalized in our society.

I could expand on my ideas about the pressures and expectations of the modern world, but I am guessing most of us here would already feel much the same. Our society is not built to encourage a cooperative or communal mindset. When everything is defined by competing and winning, some are going to get left behind - economically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually. Producing grounded individuals is not really a part of the agenda.

Sadly until our society starts to really look deep I don't think it is going to get better. Apparently horrific events are not enough to shake us deeply, in fact as a whole we seem to be getting used to it.

I won't say I have the answers, but I am sure most of us in the U.S. aren't even asking the right questions.

No, honestly I don't know. I'm not in the states and my knowledge of the details of how lobbies and intern politics actually work is not that good. That's why I used the plural "they", because I did not want to imply that Obama personally was the culprit. But certainly someone with a strong influence in the government is.

When it comes down to the actual mechanics of the politics, the Republicans are FAR more beholden to the gun lobby than is Obama or most of the Dems.

Then you should refrain from empty rhetoric.

Did you actually read the rest of my last comment? I said I talked about "they", not about Obama in particular.

guns aren't the problem. the human condition is.
very easy to make explosives with commercially available items, just sayin'.

Maybe, but that means the human condition has bigger problems in certain places than in others. Shouldn't that be a reason to keep a closer eye in the dangerous toys there?

in a quiet town in connecticut?
you do realize that something like this could occur anywhere, yes?
didn't someone do a mass murder in sweden or norway a couple years ago?

if someone is hellbent on taking out a bunch of people, there isn't really much anyone can do about it.

Certainly they could occur anywhere, but the US has quite higher figures in mass shootings than any other western country, hasn't it?

its just sad , we can't even do anything about things like this

Just to be clear, in the press conference Obama made the following statement:


http://www.whitehouse.go...n-connecticut#transcript

Not that I agree with stricter gun control. I'm a people kill people type of guy but will refrain from discussing my views given the overall consensus of the community and out of respect for the administrator who has asked us to leave this topic off the DMT-Nexus. Just wanted to make sure we are quoting the White House accurately.