Soldier of ☮️ in the army of 💕
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I have a sincere question... My father is coming shortly for a visit. He lives in another state. He is on quite a few anti-psychotics. Like lithium, seriquil, and a mixture of other anti-depressants.
I have a bit of mushrooms saved up as well as DMT. I've read that anti-depressants can affect the effectivness of the trip. He's diagnosed with bi-polar, schizophrenia, and depression. I believe the DMT would be ok but not sure. Mushrooms I'm definitly not sure. I don't want to hurt my Dad or anyone for that matter.
What medicines should you not mix with mushrooms or DMT?
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DMT-Nexus member
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If you look in health and safety they have a list of known drug interactions. Speaking from personal experience, I am taking an anti depressant and had no adverse affects from the mushrooms or DMT and have done both in the last few months twice each. Not sure about the anti psychs though. You should definitely check out the health and safety portion. Good luck  Edit: I just reread your post. I'm not too sure if mushrooms are a good idea with the schizophrenia, but again I'm not sure and not an expert so definitely look very closely into that one IMO. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE
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Rennasauce Man
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cmoss419 wrote: I have a sincere question... My father is coming shortly for a visit. He lives in another state. He is on quite a few anti-psychotics. Like lithium, seriquil, and a mixture of other anti-depressants.
I have a bit of mushrooms saved up as well as DMT. I've read that anti-depressants can affect the effectivness of the trip. He's diagnosed with bi-polar, schizophrenia, and depression. I believe the DMT would be ok but not sure. Mushrooms I'm definitly not sure. I don't want to hurt my Dad or anyone for that matter.
What medicines should you not mix with mushrooms or DMT? Definitely a person by person thing. Personally i probably would avoid dosing someone with those kind of problems, unless you & he both felt absolutely comfortable in doing so. Even then, the best laid plans/intentions can go awry. My advice would be best not to, unless the person in question is not being heavily medicated for emotional/psychological issues, or is not being medicated and has deep emotional/psychological issues. emotional/psychological issues can be catalyzed into something worse with psychs, at the same time theres potential for healing. Its a risk, but what isn't. Hard question to answer, and honestly prob best left to a psych/therapist with a background in psychedelics. But in any case, psychotropic medications designed/used to treat these issues generally don't mix well with psychedelics. They can either blunt their action, or cause dangerous interactions/potentiations, among other things. Not to say that no one on medication never got anything positive from a psychedelic experience. But generally psychs are known for bringing those issues to the surface, and if the person is not ready for that, or at least as much as anyone can be, things can get very ugly fast. "let those who have talked to the elves, find each other and band together" -TMK
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In such a society, also, our private economies will depend less upon the private ownership of real, usable property, and more upon property that is institutional and abstract, beyond individual control, such as money, insurance policies, certificates of deposit, stocks, etc. And as our private economies become more abstract, the mutual, free helps and pleasures of family and community life will be supplanted by a kind of displaced citizenship and by commerce with impersonal and self-interested suppliers...
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Please, please do not expose your father to these substances. They are a double-edged sword. To some, they can be the most powerful medicine on the face of the earth. To others, it could be hell on earth. Illnesses such as schizophrenia and depression can be made worse by psychedelics, and you would never want to have that on your conscience. I would suggest to just use the short visit you have to listen to, and learn as much about your father as possible. It will be much more meaningful to your dad to simply talk to you. I guarantee it. I hope you guys have a great visit and create some special memories. Peace and Healing All posts are completely fictional and for educational purposes only
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agreed "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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mesc man, I love your avatar! OP only you can tell with all the info provided. But I wouldnt think DMT could hurt your father. *Look for a while at the China Cat Sunflower, proud-walking jingle in the midnight sun, Copper-dome bodhi drip a silver kimono like a crazy-quilt star gown, through a dream night wind*
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Don't do it, I offered my friend who was diagnosed with schizophrenia salvia back when I was a teen and an idiot. The guy had a 2-3hr psychosis. It was scary, I thought I permanently fucked him up for life. It was terrifying. Its a massive responsibility. Psychedelics can even mess up the mentally stable. It's a really shitty feeling to feel as if you were the cause that permanently fucked someone up for life.
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The answer is a clear NO. "Eat your vegetables and do as you're told, or you won't be going to the funfair!"
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I would avoid giving someone with the problems mentioned a psychedelic because of the real risk of precipitating a worsening in their mental state.Plus, to really experience the psychedelic realms whilst on a med like seroquel, one would need to use bigger doses to overcome its 'anti-psychotic' effect. Best advice I can give is- don't do it. I am paranoid of my brain. It thinks all the time, even when I'm asleep. My thoughts assail me. Murderous lechers they are. Thought is the assassin of thought. Like a man stabbing himself with one hand while the other hand tries to stop the blade. Like an explosion that destroys the detonator. I am paranoid of my brain. It makes me unsettled and ill at ease. Makes me chase my tail, freezes my eyes and shuts me down. Watches me. Eats my head. It destroys me.
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Soldier of ☮️ in the army of 💕
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<Mesc-Man> That's exactly how I feel about doctors and meds. They have a pill for everything and once you're on anti-psychotics it's like your on them for life. My Dad really needs them though. I've seen him go through spells of schizophrenia. I don't take offense to your post. I actually appreciate it and can relate. I just wanna show my father the other side. DMT mainly. He's 50 and never heard of it. When I do it with a full blast I can't even get up off the couch to flip out if I wanted to. It's over so quickly that you can't do anything about it except ride it out. I am gonna research it more and find out exactly what he's on. Thank you all
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mescaline-man wrote: That's why i don't go to the doctor or anything because i know they'll give me some kind of diagnosis to put me on their "medicine" (no offense to your Dad in any way) I think that's what their designed for is just to scratch the very surface of some problem really deep within yourself so as to drain your wallet and probably negatively affect your health and chemistry. Interesting point. I've done a lot of reading and the other day saw a great video about Marijuanna on u tube. In that video they reminded me of the fact that the Pharma industry has more interests in treating rather than curing patients. In reference to Cigarettes, they are so addictive because they give the smoker microdoses of nicotine compared to Proper tobacco like mapacho which is very strong tobacco. This way the smoker is looking for a powerful nicotine buzz that is difficult to obtain using regular cigarettes. Thus they end up addicted seking out nicotine utopia, that they would have met after a few "mapachos". It disgusts me how people are misled to think that the pharma or tobacco industry cares about them. They are just money making shrewd businesses, and need to be questioned on every level. Tobacco was rarely smoked before white man started, and when it was it was not done so without understanding of the plant. Most of todays ills can be cured with getting out and about in the daylight, daily exercise, and good diet. It pains me to see so many people on so many meds, especially when they really can cope without them. "Eat your vegetables and do as you're told, or you won't be going to the funfair!"
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veni, vidi, spici
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cmoss419, i can understand that you want your Dad to experience DMT, and its good that you are going to research the possible side effects further, but really i feel its a pretty stupid thing to do considering his situation. I think you should listen to corpus callosum, he is probably the only person on this thread that really knows what he is talking about. I know you may have resevations about docs and the pharma companies, but he is one of our own and i think you would be foolish to not heed his words. i dont mean to to insult you, but i just cant imagine anything worse than doing harm to my Dad, i would never forgive myself, especially as it would be over what is essentailly getting high. INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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3rdI wrote:
i dont mean to to insult you, but i just cant imagine anything worse than doing harm to my Dad, i would never forgive myself, especially as it would be over what is essentailly getting high.
I think that this is right, your dad's well-being comes first and the risk of exposing him to anything dangerous outweighs the potential gain. Of course you don't really need to be told this as you brought the question here in the first place. Whilst I can't give you any definite medical information, from personal experience I can say that my older sister suffers from bi-polar disorder, takes lithium and anti-depressants, and we've taken LSD together numerous times without any kind of adverse effect. So if you really want to trip with your dad a softer hallucinogenic might be the way to go? I hope you have a fantastic time catching up with your dad either way x
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veni, vidi, spici
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MyIdleSpright wrote:Whilst I can't give you any definite medical information, from personal experience I can say that my older sister suffers from bi-polar disorder, takes lithium and anti-depressants, and we've taken LSD together numerous times without any kind of adverse effect.
So if you really want to trip with your dad a softer hallucinogenic might be the way to go? do you really think this is a good idea? if he really wants to trip with his Dad and see the glories of existence then get on a train and go somewhere nice. MyIdleSpright wrote:I hope you have a fantastic time catching up with your dad either way x? This is what should be done, catching up, nothing else is neccessary. i have a friend who has some mental health issues, depression ect, which he developed in later life. We used to get high and do shrooms and acid together all the time when we were kids, he is one of my oldest and best friends and out of all the people i know he is the person i would most like to have the DMT experience. Guess who i will never give DMT to??? you have to think whats more important your dad or your dad seeing pretty colours for 5 minutes (i know, i know, its not just pretty colours but you get my drift.) do the sensible thing INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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veni, vidi, spici
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the last time i quit fags i was taking a small doses, 1g, of rue tea and it was the easiest time i have ever had quiting smoking. im guessing caapi will be similar. INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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veni, vidi, spici
Posts: 3642 Joined: 05-Aug-2011 Last visit: 22-Sep-2017
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ha ha, i think thats a bit of a language barrier thing, on my small isle fag is a very common name for cigarettes, much more so than it is used against gay folk. im not sure about the dreams though, i only use cigs in joints and dont smoke them on there own, and every time i quit smoking weed i have much more vivid dreams so i cant really say if it was the lack of weed or the presence of Rue tea that gave me crazy dreams. INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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