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#1 Posted : 4/10/2012 4:12:35 PM
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I love DMT but on occation i get my ass kicked by it so hard i am nervous about sharing it with anyone.

I know a couple of people who have lots of psy experience and are eager to try DMT but i just feel they dont know what they are letting themselfs in for.

If im going to give them some DMT what should i tell them first? and what kind of dose would you recommend? they are both willing to hit 50mg but im not sure if thats a good idea.
 

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#2 Posted : 4/10/2012 4:23:53 PM

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Tell them to not expect anything, but accept everything.
I would imagine start low. 15-25 range. Give them 50 and if they freak out, they will never do it again. I personally started with 5mg. (but then I didn't have a scale until later).
What method you using to administer the spice? Is it pure or are you doing changa?

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#3 Posted : 4/10/2012 4:34:37 PM
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#4 Posted : 4/10/2012 4:34:58 PM

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You could have them watch dmt the spirit molecule which is streaming on netflix for a general idea of what they'll be getting involved with, however if your questioning or having second thoughts about dosing someone that should be enough reason not to. However in the event that you decide you want to give somebody the most powerful psychedelic known to many species, start out with 10-20 mg so they get the feel of it. I recommend you dont give it to anyone. If they're not capable of extracting it themselves, they're by far not ready.
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#5 Posted : 4/10/2012 4:36:31 PM

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most people who have asked I have not dosed..lets put it that way. The person has to impress me with their interest here and I have to feel like they actaully want that experience rather than just trying some crazy drug. Dont get me wrong people can go try anything they like, but that is not where I come in.

Never seen anyone that I have dosed with loose it on DMT in any real bad way..but we did introduce this guy and his gf a while back and they both loved it..and they also wanted to try LSA so minxx gave them some rivea seeds she had and this guy and his gf took them like a week later or something and his gf completely flipped out and sore off psychedelics as like super horrible drugs...

Be careful with this stuff. I dont really feel great about inviting people to do this stuff with me..if people come across as true seekers to me that have already chosen this for themselves on some level than I maybe concider drinking with them or something..
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#6 Posted : 4/10/2012 4:39:26 PM

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scudge wrote:
You could have them watch dmt the spirit molecule which is streaming on netflix for a general idea of what they'll be getting involved with


IMO, I'd have them watch the Spirit Molecule after they return from their trip...

Watching SM could leave them with expectations that may not be fulfilled, and that may discourage them, or make them feel like they were cheated (when really, every experience is quite unique in its own respect)


Have them meditate...find a nice, comfortable setting...and let THEM tell you when they're ready....


(Although, if you're unsure whether you should even dose them, you probably shouldn't.)


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#7 Posted : 4/10/2012 4:47:06 PM

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Oh. I wanted to mention. People I know want to try it. Not really friends but people I know personally. I tell them to come here, research it and order the mhrb and extract it themselves. Just like I did. I feel this really makes them prove they want it.
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#8 Posted : 4/10/2012 4:49:56 PM

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Electric Kool-Aid wrote:
Oh. I wanted to mention. People I know want to try it. Not really friends but people I know personally. I tell them to come here, research it and order the mhrb and extract it themselves. Just like I did. I feel this really makes them prove they want it.



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I was going to say this....but, truthfully many don't have the resources to do it themselves....

although, if you have the proper place to extract, you could have them come to your place and extract it there....

Just a thought. Very happy
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#9 Posted : 4/10/2012 4:58:50 PM

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I respect where you're coming from and, by all means, you're the one who has to decide in the end.

Kind of as an illustration of the positive that can come from sharing I'll relate my recent experience.

First let me say I've only been at this spice thing for about 2 and a half weeks now. After I did it the first time, as we all are, I was stunned and amazed. I felt the urge to share with someone who would understand, who could handle it (if anyone can), and who was a good soul and safe to be around in the psychologically tender moments of extreme psychedelia. Now there's one person in my life who has been around for 99% of the psychedelic craziness I've enjoyed and vice versa. We've known each other since we were 14 and that's very near 30 years now. I told him about it and and invited him over. Me and my lady shared with he and his lady and what a simply lovely experience! All four of us totally respectful of the trip, good conversation (not too much), good vibing company.

To shorten what could very easily become a rambling account of irritating minutiae, for about 10 years my friend and I have not been all that close. Not because of anything bad, just drifted apart with families and responsibilities and different directions. Now we seem to be drifting back onto a similar path and hanging out more as well as getting to know each others' ladies better. I can't tell you how groovy this is. The love I feel for my friend has never waned and I suppose I didn't know what I had lost until it came back around. True friendship is so rare and beautiful.

Now I'm not saying that DMT is a fix all or what not. In fact I'm really not talking about DMT at all. That act of sharing though (with the right person of course) is an insanely deep and meaningful thing. This sharing just happened to be with DMT AND with a person that was worthy of and capable with the spice.

We're going in on a big shipment of MHRBP and I'm teaching him to extract his own. And the list goes on in the relationship building arena and that's really a big part of what life's about for me - caring, respectful, healthy relationships

So you see... sharing can be a fantastic thing. Sorry again if that got rambley - it was hard to write this without feeling the joy that the experience has brought.
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#10 Posted : 4/10/2012 5:30:24 PM

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Tell them to research as much as possible (the wiki and FAQ section on the nexus are an ideal place to start) and explain them how the experience could turn if they are not well prepared. Wait some time and if you feel that they are still unprepared or showing lack of respect, just forget about it.

Oh and like other said, always start with low doses!
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#11 Posted : 4/10/2012 5:49:42 PM
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scudge wrote:
You could have them watch dmt the spirit molecule which is streaming on netflix for a general idea of what they'll be getting involved with


Not sure about that, they are not really the spiritual type.
 
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#12 Posted : 4/10/2012 6:40:22 PM

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I have watched the spirit molecule a couple of times now. It sounds to me more of like 5 people's trip reports. Not very educational in the fact that this is a very powerful life changing drug, that without proper care taken could destruct someone very easily.
There is no set and setting or guidance to lead you were you need to be. The spirit molecule video is just a mere eye opener to "hey, here's a drug I tested on some subjects in a lab and here are their reports.

Dmt nexus on the other hand has everything (and more.. Or maybe too much!) for someone wanting info, education, preparation and administration. Great place to start, adventure and learn. Learn in a positive atmosphere with intellectual informative people whom share the same interests as yourself.
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#13 Posted : 4/10/2012 6:52:41 PM

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Electric Kool-Aid wrote:
I have watched the spirit molecule a couple of times now. It sounds to me more of like 5 people's trip reports. Not very educational in the fact that this is a very powerful life changing drug, that without proper care taken could destruct someone very easily.
There is no set and setting or guidance to lead you were you need to be. The spirit molecule video is just a mere eye opener to "hey, here's a drug I tested on some subjects in a lab and here are their reports.

Dmt nexus on the other hand has everything (and more.. Or maybe too much!) for someone wanting info, education, preparation and administration. Great place to start, adventure and learn. Learn in a positive atmosphere with intellectual informative people whom share the same interests as yourself.



I thought it left a little to be desired as well... especially with Joe Rogan narrating it looking like the 3rd Blues Brother on a meth binge within a really creepy mad-scientist room.
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#14 Posted : 4/10/2012 7:41:44 PM

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#15 Posted : 4/10/2012 7:46:24 PM

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#16 Posted : 4/10/2012 9:08:07 PM

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You could have them watch dmt the spirit molecule which is streaming on netflix for a general idea of what they'll be getting involved with


Not sure about that, they are not really the spiritual type.


If they are not the spiritual type then why would you consider giving them the spirit molecule?

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You could have them watch dmt the spirit molecule which is streaming on netflix for a general idea of what they'll be getting involved with


Not sure about that, they are not really the spiritual type.


If they are not the spiritual type then why would you consider giving them the spirit molecule?


to me it is n-n, DMT, not the spirit molecule. If you're spiritual then great, but surely its not a requirement to use DMT? Shocked
 
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#18 Posted : 4/10/2012 9:23:56 PM

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I think being a spiritual type is not a prerogative, I was an atheist till my first high dose of LSD. Respect and knowledge are the keys.
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#19 Posted : 4/10/2012 9:59:40 PM
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I love DMT but on occation i get my ass kicked by it so hard i am nervous about sharing it with anyone.

I know a couple of people who have lots of psy experience and are eager to try DMT but i just feel they dont know what they are letting themselfs in for.

If im going to give them some DMT what should i tell them first? and what kind of dose would you recommend? they are both willing to hit 50mg but im not sure if thats a good idea.


Of course nobody knows what they are getting themselves into when they haven't tried it before and especially when the nature of the journey is totally different from anything else.

Starting low is important, altough unless you have crappy tool which wouldn't give much out of even 50mg.

Ass kicking is part of DMT and everybody who's new to it should understand that it WILL kick one's ass, sooner or later, with different intensity at certain points. Respect and set and setting doesn't help much with this matter, I believe it's DMT's nature to be tough at some point. So if one expects rainbows and fairies (or simple positive experiences), one should know that there will always be the dark side, too.
To be honest, I love it the way it is, even when it can be unpleasant, too. I guess it's the indicator if one's "tough enough" and doesn't just seek highs from DMT, when one doesn't get spooked by one or many unpleasant experiences. It's not for everybody that's for sure, I wouldn't be surprised if even some experienced psychonauts(with other substances) would consider it "not their cup of tea"
 
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#20 Posted : 4/11/2012 12:04:15 AM
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To be honest, I love it the way it is, even when it can be unpleasant, too.


today i had a helish trip but when i came back i found myself laughing at just how horrible my trip was.

unlike some things because much of a DMT trip is quickly forgotten its hard to say what exactly was bad about it other than it wasnt fun. when i store a memory of a bad time, say seriously injuring myself, thinking back to it is not nice but with a DMT trip you cant really reimagine it afterwards so i find there is no bad feeling associated with it.
 
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