http://www.youtube.com/w...B8&feature=youtu.be

mrrrrrr...... I might not move back to the US someday, might well make it Canada.

This is nuts, 75 years seems a little excessive.

ANY time seems excessive. The populous should be entitled to defend themselves against people who potentially have a lot of power over their future. This is wrong on so many levels.

indeed

this just supports the f'ed up premise that the laws do no apply to the people who enforce them.
maybe alex jones isn't so paranoid and crazy after all, eh?
(well, except for his claim that the global elite partake in DMT rituals, that's pretty far-fetched)

And people wonder why so many people dislike united states... One of the major reasons is their politics and laws... Crazy country.

That´s what you get when people vote republican. In a democracy, the people always get the government they deserve....well, except from everybody who didn´t vote for that party ofcourse.

Hmmm, but that would imply democracy isn´t such a great system as our parents and teachers have always told us, would it ?!?

Once again, I remind you that the US does not have a democracy as much as it likes to push the concept on everyone else. It's a representative republic, and if you don't think that makes too much of a difference, consider that half the problems that come out of corruption can exist because of this non democratic representative republic.

I know you are right, but people are so corruptible that i fear no political system can work in an ideal way.

Well, it sucks anyway.

Gandhi probably had no idea how right he realy was when he said that western civilisation would be a good idea.

He's in trouble for the audio part, right?


Well, obviously the police need to be watched, just turn the audio off.

Audio recordings made without the filmed persons knowlege are inadmissable in court anyway and always have been.

Can anyone cite case law here? From my understanding, Bedazzle is correct in that the audio portion of the recording is illegal - not the video.

Whether or not that's enforced is another issue. But would like to see where exactly this is illegal in the US.

Does that also aply to recordings that are counter-evidence...that would proof that somebody is NOT guilty of soemthing? (for instance if they´d proof the police has been playing around with evidence, etc)

Polytrip, I'm not a lawyer. But I did watch some crime and court type tv when I was younger. As such it is my considered opinion that yep, it goes both ways.



I cite as supoorting evidence (to my original claim, not the adendum requested by polytrip) the case of an old CSI episode I saw years ago, from the first season.

This kid, a total punk was filming chicks at malls, hidden camera, upskirt shots and all that. The law decided to watch him, as sexual predators tend to escalate....but he had not yet committed a crime as the videos contained no audio.

Also, a precident was set in an episode of divorce court. I forget what happened and I don't watch tv anymore BUT the point is all tv court I've ever seen sais it's true: video tape 'em, but leave the audio out if the law is involved.


Sorry for being less than serious. Welcome to martial law folks. It's always been here and really, they do it in Europe and Canada and all over too. In the US they just don't even hide it anymore.

Serious? but that would mean that someone could be sent to 'the chair' while everybody KNOWS he´s innocent....

^^ 'zactly...

We're in for some rough times ahead of us folks...

the united states is a hole in the earth-a dump. Why the hell anyone would want to move there I dont understand. Sure the land itself is nice in some areas..and there are some nice people there..but the US government and military action is horribly discusting.

It' disGusting indeed.

Some of them have definitely probably tried it. They probably test everything on themselves that's been made illegal.

Oh cmon, sure it can. Not with that attitude though.

Honestly doesn't surprise me. Everyone knows trustworthy government officials are few and far between. I lived in a town were the mayor was busting drug dealers so that his own dealers could thrive without competition. The local free press was the only source of information on the scandal that wasn't biast.


This link is about Frank Melton, it doesn't talk about his drug dealing kinda have to of lived there to really understand.


" When manager Tonari Moore—the son of the club’s owner—began videotaping the entourage, Melton’s bodyguards put him in handcuffs. When they got him outside to the Mobile Command Center —the tricked-out RV that Melton uses for his midnight raids—witnesses say several boys [url]http:// http://reason.com/archiv...r-in-america/singlepage[/url]jumped off Melton’s bus to beat the handcuffed Moore."