not so long ago i started printing my psychedelic art on t-shirts.
i opened (together with my boyfriend)a small workshop for screen printing, and created a new web shop:
http://fractalicdesign.com/psychedelic/

the designs are all based on the shapes of fractals i create with fractal programs, than i play with the images in Photoshop, to fit them into the t-shirt, Sometimes, I look for a face or an image within the fractal, and try to help it emerge up to the surface, and sometimes I will zoom in and out of the fractal reshape it in a more abstract way.

To me, fractals are the essence of the true beauty in nature, they are the aesthetics of mathematical magic formulas that shape everything in our world from the micro to the macro,They are the dynamic chaotic shapes of nature, and they seem to be allover hyperspace too.

i would appreciate your comments,

hope you like it

Really nice work! the second one is my fav. I used to have a screen printing shop years ago before morphing into a sign shop. I imagine the technology has changed a lot since then. thanks.

Those are awesome. Do they sell?

thanks !

i guess the technology might of changed, but we still do it the old school way,by our own hands.

we just started 2 month ago, so slowly we started selling (only by the internet). these t-shirts are certainly not for the mainstream people, but i believe there are allot of us freaks out there...

I absolutely love the way these shirts look!

My only complaint would be the price. $32 for a t-shirt is a little too steep for me, but I understand that you gotta make money somehow and I'm sure there are people who would be willing to pay much more than that even. I know if I had the money to burn I'd grab one or two to help support such an awesome business.

thanks Xemnas!
32$ are only for the designs which are full printed all over ,it's a long process, in which we print every piece of the shirt before stitching, the front the back and theמ the sleeves, it takes allot of work, and we do it all by ourselves(not in a children labor factory in china).
but i tend to print some more of the cheaper designs (like in the first picture)where there is only one big image in the front...these are so much easier to print.

Great art i would definitely rock one of those.

thanks!!!

Those are beautiful. Let everyone know what you have here, I'm convinced these will peak a lot of interest. I've always dreamed of having my own art on clothing. In fact I'm sure there's a lot of people on nexus who would be more than willing to get on that, you're lucky to have access to such equipment. Really professional looking stuff.

thank u oraion!i love your art too, and i belive some of it can eazly feeted on to t-shirt.
screen printing acuipment dosen't have to be so expensive if you do it by hand , and actually much of it you can build by yourself, there is so much information about screnprinting technics on you tube, and all around the net, you can eazly learn how to do it by yourself if you have anough space and time...

The price seems absurd to me. I'm going to refrain from degrading your business as I know little of the process in which you printed these shirts; I do however know that the price you are charging for how cheap they could have been printed is ludicrous.

As a fellow graphic designer I wish to ascertain your reason for pricing these so highly. As I said, I am a graphic designer, so I know for certain when I say that the prices do not coordinate with the amount of effort put in - especially for a non-unique piece. This kind of thing makes me want to whip out some fractals and do the same thing through an American print company, which they already have established, so that's no excuse to resort to primitive/different methods and charge more. Except by doing such, it would be as a hobby for the benefit of the 'customer' to behold what I believe is beauty, because I believe art and entrepreneurship should not exist together.

Rather forthcoming but how many posters here would have knowledge of the programs used to create these. Most people hardly know Photoshop versions let alone Cinema 4D or whatever was used. I call it as I see it and you are over-charging for what many people consider a hobby.

That stick up your ass is making you cranky. If you don't care for the product or price, by all means don't buy their shirts, but there's no need to get on a soapbox and preach like you're psychedelic Ralph Nader.

These guys are making an attractive product. They operate within a free market economy. It's their investment, their creation, their prerogative to set their price. If the demand is there, people will pay it. If not, I guess they won't. Go price out some designer t-shirts at Macy's one of these days. Try Barney's or Nordstrom or any department store; go price out Obey or Affliction.

$32 ain't all that egregious as far as I'm concerned. Regardless, they're trying to earn a living selling something they've made themselves. They're not using Chinese slave wage children like the ones who made your Nikes, so save your righteous indignation for something that actually matters.

to Cosmic rift!
It is really OK that you don’t like my designs, different people have different tastes and opinions, but I really can’t understand why you have to get so bitter about it? in what way could these t-shirts have offended you so much?

about printing prices- you should really try to avoid talking about matters you don’t know about. apparently you have no idea about the prices of a full printed t-shirt. there is no other way to do it properly, because there is no machinery who can print a full stitched t-shirt. The only way to do it is to print piece by piece as we do it- and this method take allot of time, you can ask any professionals printer. Believe me, we did a huge research, and talked to all the printers around our country, and none of them wanted to do this kind of hard work.
Sure - big western companies (in the sake of the costumers) usually do this kind of hard work in china, using cheap children labor, but this is not our way to make a living.

I wonder why you believe “art and entrepreneurship should not exist together”, do you really believe that artist should be slaves to the “high” aesthetic taste dictated by the upper classes, in aim of decorating their big bourgeois houses?
Or maybe an artist should feet his art to the demand of big corporation, waiting obediently for them to buy his art?
For me, the biggest motivation for art is mainly freedom, and freedom always goes along quite well with the idea of being independent.

Woah, why don't you step off your high horse for a second there. I never demeaned the product, I simply stated how this could be done cheaper without the use of Chinese child laborers. I did not know the process in which they printed these shirts, so I asked, while asserting how these could have been made cheaper. And yes, it is a free market, but some people such as myself care about how far their dollar can take them. I never said that nobody should buy or not buy their products, simply that their are American shirt companies who don't outsource their labor. Quit implying that I was crude, mad, or in any way "cranky".


You have misunderstood me, I do not dislike your designs and have not shown any contempt. Some of them are remarkable. I do not believe however, that the amount of effort put into each design coordinates with the price. This was nothing more than a remark that stems from the work in which I have personally done with fractals and c4ds.


Avoid talking about matters I don't know about? You were obviously offended by my post but this does not give you the right to be hostile. If I didn't make such an inquiry I wouldn't know the process in which you printed these. But quit with this Chinese labor bullshit because it is a fact that their are cheaper ways to do such in the USA without outsourcing the work. If you cannot find such places than I will be glad to help if you inquire, without any sign of resentfulness or hostility, as you have so gracefully shown me.


This wasn't a personal attack, despite the two I have thereafter received, and apparently my logic wasn't well elaborated nor interpreted. I do not believe big business and art should be mixed however, this is obviously not the case. I don't know how you jump from my quote to "[artists being] slaves to the "high" aesthetic taste dictated by the upper classes". Art should be for the masses to enjoy and not make a profit. Do not be so quick to judge what I believe. Due to your comments I have to disregard viewpoints that you ever so falsely assumed I had. If asked, I would have elaborated my views without any scorn. Now you have jumped to multiple conclusions and have depicted my thoughts as the opposite of what they are. My post was forthcoming but not offensive, unlike yours.

You are a windbag.

lol, I dissected the post in multiple quotations. If their wasn't so much specific bullshit that I wanted to point out, the CSS would render it like any other post. Quit being so condescending because a shitty forum software renders my post longer than it should be. I had a simple, valid point and my view of the people on this forum have drastically changed after this topic; why do you still feel the need to degrade me?

Because you're a double talking, naysaying, sanctimonious windbag and you're getting on my nerves.

You have clearly demonstrated that you cannot comprehend clearly articulated speech but to say it's me, haha. look at you trying to be a class act while spewing the same essence of which you speak. You are nothing more than an asshole and a troll.

Alright thats enough, go back to your rooms, you're both grounded! And until you both make friends again and respect each other, there will be no icecream dessert after dinner!

At the risk of sounding preachy, I'd like to chime in here.

@Cosmic Rift
However untintentional it may have been, your initial reply did come off as condescending and bitter (at least to me). It is helpful for a business to hear what people think of their prices, especially from someone who has worked in this field, but with the way you went about saying it you can't blame fractalic for getting a bit defensive of her business. To avoid future confrontations like this maybe you should try a friendlier and less cold approach while still being informative. Couldn't hurt.

@Uncle Knucles
I don't really know you and you don't really know me but I've read alot of your posts and you seem like an intelligent individual, so when you derail the thread into a negative direction by calling people names I'm a bit surprised.

The Nexus should be a place where people with different views can intelligently and maturely share their opinions with eachother. Not a place where people childishly call people names. Where would this forum be if everyone acted like that?

Sorry to derail this thread even further. I'll get off my soap-box now. I just can't stand seeing unnecessary anger when there are far more important things in the world to be angry about.