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Voidwalk
#1 Posted : 8/27/2011 7:55:25 AM

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Hi guys, about a month ago I woke up one morning and found that roughly 50% of my total vision was blurred out, as to say, I couldn't see as I normally would, this lasted roughly an hour and a half. Since this occurance it has happened twice more, over a period of two days, both days causing a loss of about 50% in one eye. Slight disorientation is present when experiencing this, as I imagine it should, because I can't see properly.

I have a hunch that the possible cause is stress on my eyes blood vessels from the air pressure I create in my body when singing in my band. Given that I havn't done my usual daily practice over the last couple of days and had no issues (over the last month the frequency of practice has reduced) although I'm interested to see if anyone else has experienced this as a possible effect of psychadellic use, I'd prefer discussing my mind exploration here than with my Doctor.
All input is very appreciated.
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#2 Posted : 8/27/2011 8:26:53 AM

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I've never heard of anything like this resulting from psychedelics. Stress can do strange things but it sounds like something I would go see a doctor for. Since I doubt it has anything to do with psychedelics and you feel uncomfortable talking to a doc about it, just don't mention it.

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#3 Posted : 8/27/2011 9:30:40 AM

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I had something very similar happen to me last December and then again in March, I am still have visual issues now, although they are not noticeable unless I am in the dark.

In my case the issue is migraine (I have suffered from very severe and debilitating migraines for over 20 years). I have had at least 5 different types of migraine in my time, but this was the first time I had anything like this. I woke in the morning feeling like I had been punched in the side of the head and my vision was blurring in and out. No pain, just disorientation, lack of coordination and loss of vision (except one evening of pain after a month). My first thought was that I had had a stroke. After a while it settled leaving me with a large part of my vision in one eye gone. The loss of vision, although mainly in one eye, affected all of my vision. It took close to 3 months to get it 95% back to normal, then I woke up one morning the same had happened again, but had swapped sides. It seems to me that my brain was actually adjusting out the bad information and over time learnt to compensate for it, so even when the loss of vision was still significant after about a month and a half I could function reasonably normally.

In order to get diagnosis I ended up going through 4 GPs, an optician and finally a neurologist and a brain scan. Despite the fact I went through all of that there was no treatment available for me, and as I say, now 9 months later I still have odd visuals (if I am in the dark and my move my eyes to the furthest they will go on any side I can light up my surroundings with green lightning), but everything is pretty close to normal really.

In my case I pinned down the cause to stress for the first bout and a heavy storm (drastic change in atmospheric pressure) for the second. As I said earlier I am very used to migraine and have had a very wide spectrum of symptoms and migraine types and still this was unlike anything I have experienced before.
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#4 Posted : 8/27/2011 9:44:02 AM

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Voidwalk wrote:
Hi guys, about a month ago I woke up one morning and found that roughly 50% of my total vision was blurred out, as to say, I couldn't see as I normally would, this lasted roughly an hour and a half. Since this occurance it has happened twice more, over a period of two days, both days causing a loss of about 50% in one eye. Slight disorientation is present when experiencing this, as I imagine it should, because I can't see properly.

I have a hunch that the possible cause is stress on my eyes blood vessels from the air pressure I create in my body when singing in my band. Given that I havn't done my usual daily practice over the last couple of days and had no issues (over the last month the frequency of practice has reduced) although I'm interested to see if anyone else has experienced this as a possible effect of psychadellic use, I'd prefer discussing my mind exploration here than with my Doctor.
All input is very appreciated.
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Maybe this will sound a bit weird to you but I just said your story to my wife and she suggested to try running. Also washing with cold water after every shower.

I think it is not bad idea I would try this if I were you. Generally running can unblock and get rid off lots of bad energies in your body. What can you lose by trying this ?

good luck my friend hope you get it sorted out soon.
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#5 Posted : 8/27/2011 9:54:30 AM

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Thanks for your input guys.

Smokerx, I'm curious as to what washing with cold water will do to my body / mind? What role it will play in my well being.
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#6 Posted : 8/27/2011 9:56:01 AM

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smokerx wrote:
Voidwalk wrote:
Hi guys, about a month ago I woke up one morning and found that roughly 50% of my total vision was blurred out, as to say, I couldn't see as I normally would, this lasted roughly an hour and a half. Since this occurance it has happened twice more, over a period of two days, both days causing a loss of about 50% in one eye. Slight disorientation is present when experiencing this, as I imagine it should, because I can't see properly.

I have a hunch that the possible cause is stress on my eyes blood vessels from the air pressure I create in my body when singing in my band. Given that I havn't done my usual daily practice over the last couple of days and had no issues (over the last month the frequency of practice has reduced) although I'm interested to see if anyone else has experienced this as a possible effect of psychadellic use, I'd prefer discussing my mind exploration here than with my Doctor.
All input is very appreciated.
Stay Safe Smile


Maybe this will sound a bit weird to you but I just said your story to my wife and she suggested to try running. Also washing with cold water after every shower.

I think it is not bad idea I would try this if I were you. Generally running can unblock and get rid off lots of bad energies in your body. What can you lose by trying this ?

good luck my friend hope you get it sorted out soon.

If the issues are severe like mine were then this would be difficult and possibly even dangerous. Even walking about was quite hairy for a while.

My vote would be to get yourself to the doctor to put your mind at rest that there is nothing worse than a migraine happening to you!

I don’t think in my case I was asked anything about my drug intake until I went to see the neurologist, and whilst waiting to see him I was screened by a nurse. She asked me about recent drug use (none, for a couple of weeks except a little bit of weed), and long term, in which my answer was “Yes, all of them”.
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#7 Posted : 8/27/2011 10:01:03 AM

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Voidwalk wrote:
I'm curious as to what washing with cold water will do to my body / mind?

Interestingly I have found I can reproduce some migraine-like visual effects by simply having a very hot bath, I guess a cold rinse in the shower after may counteract that a little. Something for me to try for next time!
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#8 Posted : 8/27/2011 10:16:52 AM

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d*l*b wrote:
If the issues are severe like mine were then this would be difficult and possibly even dangerous. Even walking about was quite hairy for a while.

My vote would be to get yourself to the doctor to put your mind at rest that there is nothing worse than a migraine happening to you!

I don’t think in my case I was asked anything about my drug intake until I went to see the neurologist, and whilst waiting to see him I was screened by a nurse. She asked me about recent drug use (none, for a couple of weeks except a little bit of weed), and long term, in which my answer was “Yes, all of them”.



Ah, sorry If I mislead you at all, I havn't experienced migraines or headaches, to my memory for years. The recent loss of visuals happened whilst at work, not a fun environment, as I need to see what I'm doing, I will see a doctor about this, and ponder it all a little more.
I don't wish to give up singing, though I won't continue if it is causing my bodily temple harm.
On the same note, I'd prefer it was the latter, as opposed to my psychadellic use.. I've evolved everytime, had something to come back with, that has changed me for the better, and I see it manifest itself in the way I effect other people.

For the record, when I say the hunch is about singing, I mean more of an alternative noise making, as you'd hear in modern "Heavy Metal" music, I know of quite a few vocalists who are blind as bats, makes sense to me really.
 
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#9 Posted : 8/27/2011 10:28:05 AM

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Voidwalk wrote:
Thanks for your input guys.

Smokerx, I'm curious as to what washing with cold water will do to my body / mind? What role it will play in my well being.
Thanks Smile


Cold water is natural and normal for life, it cleanses whatever dirt there is. Same, the energy of water cleanses whatever dirt-energy there is. Hot water does not cleanse because its energy has been altered. You have there fire energy which burns. Of course you can use the shock from hot water as well, but you must be able to handle proper hot water and after that you need some sort of body sweeping. Cold water works fast and is easier to use.

Now this was the poor explanation to this. Hope you can pick up your answer from it. If not, I'll try explain more.
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#10 Posted : 8/27/2011 4:49:24 PM

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smokerx wrote:
Cold water is natural and normal for life, it cleanses whatever dirt there is. Same, the energy of water cleanses whatever dirt-energy there is. Hot water does not cleanse because its energy has been altered. You have there fire energy which burns. Of course you can use the shock from hot water as well, but you must be able to handle proper hot water and after that you need some sort of body sweeping. Cold water works fast and is easier to use.


What the hell? Can you either cite a credible source for this bullcrap or (preferably) not post it at all?

Honestly.

To the OP - Please go see a doctor. Temporary vision loss is not something you should treat yourself with wackjob internet suggestions. It can actually be an indicator of a very serious problem for which early detection is crucial. I had a close friend who woke up with 50% vision loss in one eye about five years ago and it turned out to be a cancerous tumor. He lost the eye (after months of radiation treatments) and it came back a year later as liver cancer. He wasn't diagnosed for months and died a year after that.

Guess he should have splashed with cold water.
 
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Voidwalk wrote:
Hi guys, about a month ago I woke up one morning and found that roughly 50% of my total vision was blurred out, as to say, I couldn't see as I normally would, this lasted roughly an hour and a half. Since this occurance it has happened twice more, over a period of two days, both days causing a loss of about 50% in one eye. Slight disorientation is present when experiencing this, as I imagine it should, because I can't see properly.

I have a hunch that the possible cause is stress on my eyes blood vessels from the air pressure I create in my body when singing in my band. Given that I havn't done my usual daily practice over the last couple of days and had no issues (over the last month the frequency of practice has reduced) although I'm interested to see if anyone else has experienced this as a possible effect of psychadellic use, I'd prefer discussing my mind exploration here than with my Doctor.
All input is very appreciated.
Stay Safe Smile



You mentioned you were going to do this - See a Doctor. Do it sooner rather than later. Don't mess around with what might be anything but what might be a symptom of some issue with vision or neurology that should be addressed immediately. Please don't mess around, don't get advice, don't try quack cures. Go see a doctor. If you have no money go to your county ER.
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#12 Posted : 8/27/2011 8:49:42 PM

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Uncle Knucles wrote:

What the hell? Can you either cite a credible source for this bullcrap or (preferably) not post it at all?

Honestly.


Honestly , I respectfully do not care what you think about what I said.

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#13 Posted : 8/27/2011 9:01:35 PM

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Uncle Knucles wrote:
To the OP - Please go see a doctor. Temporary vision loss is not something you should treat yourself with wackjob internet suggestions. It can actually be an indicator of a very serious problem for which early detection is crucial. I had a close friend who woke up with 50% vision loss in one eye about five years ago and it turned out to be a cancerous tumor. He lost the eye (after months of radiation treatments) and it came back a year later as liver cancer. He wasn't diagnosed for months and died a year after that.


I am not sure that it is very good idea to say that the guy may have cancer and die.This problem he has may be just morning low blood sugar, so why talk about cancer and dying man ?
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#14 Posted : 8/27/2011 9:02:18 PM

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Someone posts with what could be a serious medical issue, and you offer up some of the dumbest, most nonsensical advice I've ever seen around here. Go for a run? Splash with cold water? Jesus. Give me a break. Save your ridiculous mumbo jumbo for the saps at Mycotopia.

You're on shaky ground as it is, smokerx, and you're flirting with a forced vacation. I'm guessing a doctor would be the best one to tell him what's wrong with him. You think?
 
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Uncle Knucles wrote:
Someone posts with what could be a serious medical issue, and you offer up some of the dumbest, most nonsensical advice I've ever seen around here. Go for a run? Splash with cold water? Jesus. Give me a break. Save your ridiculous mumbo jumbo for the saps at Mycotopia.


Do you remember this sentence from The Attitude Section or have you forgotten already? Here it comes "We understand that members have a variety of experiences and opinions because the universe is infinite—and no one can really carve a piece off for himself and declare it the “only truth.”

Uncle Knucles wrote:
You're on shaky ground as it is, smokerx, and you're flirting with a forced vacation. I'm guessing a doctor would be the best one to tell him what's wrong with him. You think?


Doctor would be the last person I would go to see If I had any health problem. The only think doctor can do for you is give you some chemicals for treating symptoms not the cause and those chemicals will give another one or more problems that is what doctors generally do to the people.

I am asking this question with respect , what did that doctor done for your friend who is not among as any-more? My guess will be chemotherapy is that right ?

My wife's aunt was diagnosed with cancer maybe 20 years ago and was told by doctors she had only few months to live. She is still here walking among as and is very happy and grateful she never fallowed any doctors advice. She fallowed exactly a monks advice.

My father's small light joined the big one not a long ago. He fallowed the doctors advice maybe the cold shower would save him who knows ? Do you ? Who are you to say what is right and what is wrong ? Don't judge people my friend that is my advise for you.

love to you and do not be angry I am only trying to help here.
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#16 Posted : 8/28/2011 12:03:54 AM

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I dont get the whole hot water vs cold water cleansing thing. Yes, water has a flash point where when you boil it it does become more prone to causing *very* slight leukocytosis in the blood when you drink it(and even this is debatable)..hardly enough to worry about..but that is hardly relevant to anything in this thread. Shower and tap water is so toxic and adulterated already, and so unstructured that it is debatable weather or not it can even be called water anymore and it certainly not "purifying"..not turning on the heat is not going to make a damn difference lol. Water you are bathing in anyway is not boiling so it is not hitting that flash point..Where are you getting your information smokerx?

You say that cold water is natural and normal for life..but what about natural hot springs? native peoples bath in hot springs all the time and it is concidered very purifying and healthy..and they easily reach the temperature of shower or bath water.

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“If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water” Loran Eisley 1957

12 essential reasons to have cold showers:

1: Mood booster:

It gives you an instant rush, leaving you feel awake and alive. Cold water releases natural endorphins into your blood stream and brain. It shifts your mood. There are many scientists who even believe cold showers can help alleviate symptoms of depression.

2: Releases stress and tension:

Tension is generally blocked energy and a cold shower helps move and shift that blocked energy. Better energy flow equals a more relaxed and less stressed you.

3: Improves circulation:

Cold water stimulates blood flow to the core of your body bringing better blood flow to your organs and glands. Improved blood flow equals more oxygen and a healthier you.

4: Flushes out toxins:

The cold water contracts your muscles to encourage the flushing out of toxins. With improved circulation the removal of toxins and pathogens is far more efficient.

5: Clears negativity from your aura:

When your aura is strong it acts as a protective shield. When fragile or damaged it can leave you drained and depleted. Cold showers are excellent for cleansing, uplifting and strengthening the energy field around your body.

6: Cleanses your chakra’s:

Cold water is known to spin your chakras. Its such a simple way to cleanse and revitalize them. Make sure the cold water reaches all chakra’s, in particular the throat chakra which can often get missed if your neck is not fully open and extended.

7: Strengthens your immune system:

Improved circulation, more efficient removal of toxins and better oxygen flow throughout your body all support a healthier immune system.

8: Speeds up the healing process:

For all the above reasons your body is working more effectively in healing and repairing itself from illness.

9: Restores your energy levels:

Each cold shower boost the flow of energy throughout your body, releasing fatigue and lethargy. You are left feeling refreshed and uplifted.

10: Brings you fully into your body and fully into the present moment:

Without a doubt having a cold shower brings you 100% into the present moment. It is very difficult for the mind to wonder if you are in the middle of a 1 minute cold shower. You are totally focused on your body in the here and now. Try and worry about something else when you are having a cold shower. It’s kind of impossible.

11: Cheap and environmentally friendly:

Cold showers are a very green thing to do. It costs virtually nothing plus you are saving energy by not using hot water. I personally only have a 3 minute cold shower due to our current water restrictions.

12: Clears negative thinking:

Our cells contain water, and water holds memory of our thoughts, beliefs and lifestyle. Regular cold showers help clear those cells of negative thinking supporting a more positive way of being.

Anybody would like to add anything feel free
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^so go jump in a river then. Like I said..tap water is NOT purifying. It is completely unstructured and loaded with toxic pharmacuticals and chlorine. Everything you posted above can be disreguarded when it comes to tap water. End of story. I have studied water ALOT..I wont put unstructured poison tap water into my body at all. I wont drink anything other than spring water..but that has nothing to do with this thread. Hot or cold, you are not gaining anything from tap water.

To the OP..go see a doctor. Go to a naturalpath if you dont like doctors..but go see someone. You could be diabetic for all you know. Eye problems are a symptom of diabetes I think.
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http://www.medicinenet.c...eye_problems/article.htm

^read that. Diabetes is a main cause of eye problems and blindness. Go see a doctor.
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^so go jump in a river then. Like I said..tap water is NOT purifying. It is completely unstructured and loaded with toxic pharmacuticals and chlorine. Everything you posted above can be disreguarded when it comes to tap water. End of story. I have studied water ALOT..I wont put unstructured poison tap water into my body at all. I wont drink anything other than spring water..but that has nothing to do with this thread. Hot or cold, you are not gaining anything from tap water.


It is not about drinking Fractal its about having cold shower and I am definitely with you on not drinking tap water. I have not had tap water for years. The same with soft drinks it is evil.

fractal enchantment wrote:
To the OP..go see a doctor. Go to a naturalpath if you dont like doctors..but go see someone. You could be diabetic for all you know. Eye problems are a symptom of diabetes I think.


I said exactly the same thing ^^^ see above so why scare the guy with cancer and dying ?
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