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ms_manic_minxx
#1 Posted : 7/12/2011 8:02:55 AM

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Guys, I'm feeling really, horribly, terribly, painfully, sickeningly, sadly heart-mangled in the wake of everything that is happening to our world.

I've been trying to understand everything that's happening at Fukushima in Japan.

A chest X-ray is 0.1 millisieverts. 6-10 sieverts of radiation will result in a 100% instant fatality rate. As of July 9th, not the meltdown, not the melt-through, but the MELT OUT at Fukushima was cranking out 266 sieverts/hour!!!! (This does disperse over distance, of course, unless a hot particle happens to lodge itself in your body, because then the distance is not so far no matter where you go.) It's in the GROUNDWATER. Things are going south at surrounding reactors. Under the right conditions, there could even be an EXPLOSION.

Tokyo needs to be evacuated. Japan could well be uninhabitable, no matter where you go. TEPCO just made the formal statement that, "In 10 years, we will begin to extract the fuel robs... **IF** the technology is created by then."

This is completely unprecedented. This is INCOMPREHENSIBLE DESTRUCTION.

After the oil spill in Florida, I really, really thought nothing worse could happen. This happens, what, a year later??

Anyway, this thread isn't about Fukushima specifically, it's about my shock and disgust and outrage and despair about what humans are doing--and what they ALLOW TO HAPPEN--to our world!

Do we have a right to breathe clean air?

For the month of July, NASA is also shooting rockets loaded with LITHIUM up into the atmosphere (no conspiracy theory, it's on their website), to, uh, jiggle the ionosphere with psychoactive drugs. Confused

Should I buy a dosimeter to test all of my groceries??

Am I going to give birth to a dead baby??

People in Japan who want to help are planting fields of sunflowers, I mean, what else can you actually do?

Who cares?? And why do I have to care so much?? How is it that so many people seem to be completely removed from all burden of caring??

It also makes me feel like so many things I'm doing are Pointless.

I'm usually REALLY good at seeing the bright side, staying positive, not losing my head and doing what I realistically can to make a positive change.

But this really makes me wonder... Did I incarnate to experience the death of our planet? Did I incarnate specifically to die of some horrible cancer? Even if all that extra seaweed and psychoactive drugs manages to spare my flimsy life, did I incarnate to watch nearly everyone and everything else die from human-inflicted destruction of the environment?

Why am I human?? How am I the same as all these people who are literally destroying everything? How can I find compassion?

What are my children (remember, if I can actually even have them) going to have to live through, live with?

I don't believe in aliens, I don't believe in the NWO, I just think some humans are born with a total non-capacity for empathy. But what can I do?

I mean, obviously, much of the answer is to continue doing what I'm already doing, living nonviolently, start a green business, being kind to others and sharing the spice. But I really just need to share how I feel... maybe be reminded that I'm not alone and hear some good words.

Thanks everyone. With love. Crying or very sad
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#2 Posted : 7/12/2011 5:17:00 PM

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I think it is way beyond all of this. I do think that other beings and elite factions play into all of this to some degree, I just cannot deny they're presence becasue I have been with them and been shown things about these times that are difficult to explain..but you already know what I think <3 Wink

That does not mean that aliens are going to save us or that we are doomed to live out some NWO. Humans have to develop themselves. You cant learn to run until you learn to avoid the things you tripped over in the past.

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#3 Posted : 7/12/2011 5:38:34 PM

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For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

It's where we choose to focus our attention.

Yes, horrible things happen, there is pain and suffering and destruction all around us and it's so easy to get caught up in it; what with the constant bombardment of fear mongering from every corner of media and advertising. But, there is also moar beauty and magick and progress toward health and healing and compassion than ever before.

I remember hearing once that the antidote to every toxic poisonous plant is growing within one square mile of that plant in the rainforest, and I think this is a nice metaphor for our world right now. As Japan is being destroyed by our misguided efforts to harness the power of the atom, the answer is growing out of the mycelial networks under our feet. While the world is going completely mad, the vine is quietly slipping out of the rain forest and into our backyards. While the profit seekers stomp all over our environment, the scientists back in the lab are cracking the code that our material reality is written in.

Don't give up hope, it only take one spark to dispell the darkness and set the whole world aflame.

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#4 Posted : 7/12/2011 11:06:52 PM

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ms_manic_minx,

I share your sentiments almost completely.

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Why am I human?? How am I the same as all these people who are literally destroying everything? How can I find compassion?


I also find this hard to grapple with. It's not that I think I'm perfect. Hell far from it. I have a lot of issues that I'm working on...but that is the key. I'm aware of them and working on them. It's hard to walk a path different than what our society has laid out for us.

I don't know what your religious/metaphysial beliefs are, but can you imagine how much more a Buddha or Jesus would wonder this? I suppose the whole enlightened thing might give them a clearer picture... Smile


In seriousness though I believe it's really time for us, the people of the world, to start organizing and protesting the planetary destruction. We need to do it on a massive scale with relentless resolve. From my point of view at this time we each have 2 choices we can make. 1) Say there is nothing we can do. 2) Start doing something.

The Nexus is an awesome community for several reasons, but one of the best in my opinion is the diverse backgrounds and countries represented here. What if we start the process of organizing some of these protests. We could spread it to other entheogen sites, other social networks sites. I'm not talking about 1 protest. I'm talking about rolling protests that don't quit until real change happens.

The only thing stopping people like us from doing this is we are all waiting on others to do it first. How do we resolve this problem? I mean ms_manic_mix you are right. Both natural disasters and human disasters are increasing at an alarming rate. There is no time left to debate issues like global warming. It's time the scientist are taken at face value on this issue, and many other issues related to our global climate. It's time that we the citizens of the earth...stand up and demand that our leaders address this issue on a massive global front.

We need to organize a 100 Million person protest. <<--- This is achievable. It really is. We need action on this front and we literally needed it yesterday.

If every there was something worth fighting and dying over then surely the long term preservation of our planet, in a state that humans can in habit it, is it!

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#5 Posted : 7/12/2011 11:18:03 PM


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ms_manic_minxx wrote:
For the month of July, NASA is also shooting rockets loaded with LITHIUM up into the atmosphere (no conspiracy theory, it's on their website), to, uh, jiggle the ionosphere with psychoactive drugs. Confused

While I think statements like this are a bit false, I agree with your overall tone in that we're destroying our Mother. My own opinion is, we're past the point of no return - and nobody gives a fuck.

So, where do we go from here?

I don't have any answers. To be honest, I'm preparing for some pretty gnarly shit. The content of my DMT visions over the past few years is constantly focused on some sort of nuclear device being detonated in Los Angeles. That, in addition to vivid dreams mirroring my visions, makes we weep at the coming age.

Hopefully, I'm psychotic and none of this will come true. My gut says otherwise.
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#6 Posted : 7/12/2011 11:45:51 PM

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I wouldnt put anything past NASA..NASA is a group founded by nazi scientists with some alarming motives and they lie to the public all the time. I would not doubt for a second that they would put drugs into the atmosphere to dumb us down. You cant belive anything NASA says. I am paranoid as fuck when it comes to NASA for good reason.
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#7 Posted : 7/12/2011 11:52:28 PM


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You cant belive anything NASA says. I am paranoid as fuck when it comes to NASA for good reason.

I don't mind discussing NASA issues, but do you have any solid evidence to back these claims?
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#8 Posted : 7/12/2011 11:59:58 PM

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"The content of my DMT visions over the past few years is constantly focused on some sort of nuclear device being detonated in Los Angeles. That, in addition to vivid dreams mirroring my visions, makes we weep at the coming age."

You know..this is going to sound insane, but 3 nights ago I spent about 6 hours inbetween deep visions and very realistic OBE's...and no I was not on psychedelics. This happens to me periodically..everything from strange astral traveling to actaully being on ships with seemingly human beings but from another time/place.. I have seen all sorts of things that I just wont even get into here, but the other night something similar to what you describe happened.

I spent the frist 2 hours in bed just praying for sleep, but instead locked into a visual state so much like DMT or ayahuasca..but after those first 2 hours it got deeper and I started to leave my body. Every time I started to leave, those humans from another world were there..they were trying to get me to fully leave my body..I would feel vibrations and buzzing and flip out and be stuck in weird paralysis states until I managed wake my body back up. They would tell me to try again..this went on about 8 times until finally I actaully managed to leave with them. I then went on what seemed like a very lucid and extended "lesson" with these beings.

I was there with about 3 or 4 other normal humans like me. We were sort of confused. It was obvious that these other beings that were guiding us while looking human were far more sophisticated than us. They were training us on various astral techniques and minally this strange mental excercise. There was some sort of nuclear device, or at least the only analogy they had for us on our level was that of a nuclear device. This was in a higher vibrational state so I dont know if nuclear energy is the same there or what..I just dont understand any of that. Anyway, there was this device that had been planted somewhere and they wanted us to go find it, astrally, and remove it mentally. I am sure these beings could have done all of that themselves so I got the feeling this was some sort of training. I cant explain how we(the 4 of us) found it or how we sent it back to where it came from, all I can say is that we found it "astrally" and used some sort of mental power I cant explain at all to send it away.

I know that this sounds fucking insane and noone should believe any of it but these sort of things happen to me periodically and trust me, it is NOTHING like a normal dream or a trip. I dont see fucking aliens and spaceships etc to be honest when I smoke DMT..the experience is very alien and spiritual and fantasic things happen..but I have only actaully been on ships etc with these beings when I was not expecting it at all. Most of the time I just want to go to sleep so bad, but it goes on and on all night long leaving me tried as hell the next day. I am starting to think that the only explaination that makes any sense to me is that it is real, and that it is me being prepared for something. What that might be I dont know.
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#9 Posted : 7/13/2011 12:05:37 AM


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I know that this sounds fucking insane

My rational self tells me this is all crazy, but my gut keeps whispering, "Get ready" ...
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#10 Posted : 7/13/2011 12:06:34 AM

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a1pha wrote:
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You cant belive anything NASA says. I am paranoid as fuck when it comes to NASA for good reason.

I don't mind discussing NASA issues, but do you have any solid evidence to back these claims?


Just do some research for a day on the background of NASA. You will find alot of evidence pointing to the fact that the united states brought over NAZI scientists after the war. The NAZI's were the first to ever have a space program, this is widely known. They were brought over after the war to continue the work they were doing. These people founded NASA. It is also not hard to tie to the NAZI's to strange interpretations of certain texts from the vedas. I am not saying that the NAZI's were correct in the interpretations they made concerning certain ancient technologies that exist out in the solar system etc, but they sure as hell seemed to believe it and built a space program in an attempt to seek out these things as they believed the aryain descendants were the true owners of these things. The NAZI's were fanatics and they're people founded NASA.
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"A former member of the Nazi party, commissioned Sturmbannführer of the paramilitary SS and decorated Nazi war hero, von Braun would later be regarded as the preeminent rocket engineer of the 20th century in his role with the United States civilian space agency NASA"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun

That is really nothing..first thing that came up in a google search..but there are books written about this stuff with lots of credible sources.
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fractal enchantment wrote:
"A former member of the Nazi party, commissioned Sturmbannführer of the paramilitary SS and decorated Nazi war hero, von Braun would later be regarded as the preeminent rocket engineer of the 20th century in his role with the United States civilian space agency NASA"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun

I'll do some research. I don't deny this, just haven't heard these claims before...
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#13 Posted : 7/13/2011 12:14:37 AM

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http://video.google.ca/v...cid=2030707978100913713#

^there is that..but it is long and goes into alot of other extremely weird shit about the space program in general. Alot of stuff about the history of the NAZI's and NASA though. Richard Hoagland might sound nuts at first, but he does have all of his credentials and was involved with NASA at one point before he started to talk out against them.
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manic,

It's really not so bad. The MAIN thing we suffer from these days is inflammatory NEWS REPORTING. You're probably not old enough to know...when I was a child (in the 50's, early 60's) most decently large cities smelled continuously of GASOLINE and EXHAUST--and all the gasoline had lots of LEAD in it! Maybe you know that at one time long stretches of an Ohio River were actually classified as FIRE HAZARDS--that's right, WATER as a fire hazard! Many immediate environmental assaults have actually been much IMPROVED. And generally, human conditions in the world are actually IMPROVING. Do you know that the "modern age" is very definitely far LESS violent--on an individual, interpersonal level as well as an international, "war-level" than any other time in history?

Yes, things are changing enormously quickly, and such fast change can sometimes result in rather nasty wrong steps (like misunderstanding the climate costs of fossil fuels, and the risks of nuclear power generation). But from the LONG PERSPECTIVE, things are, on average, not doing terribly badly--at least for humans. Humans have MOST CERTAINLY caused the extinction of MANY MANY species of animals (including many LARGE and easily hunted animals all over the world--20-30 thousand years ago). We're still not moving fast enough in realizing that we have to allow huge swaths of nature to REMAIN UNMOLESTED. But we ARE slowly learning, and, FORTUNATELY, people DO decrease their breeding tendencies when they take on first world educations and economic experience.

There's reasonable hope for things--from an objective (and broad) perspective; even if there are yet more short-term assaults to suffer.

...and the way WILL be lead by those who live "green," non-violent lives of personal development--as a model for others to follow.
 
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I wouldnt put anything past NASA..NASA is a group founded by nazi scientists with some alarming motives and they lie to the public all the time. I would not doubt for a second that they would put drugs into the atmosphere to dumb us down. You cant belive anything NASA says. I am paranoid as fuck when it comes to NASA for good reason.


Come on fractal, this is conspiracy theory!

I happen to have a former NASA scientist in my family. He helped design some of the first satellites.
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there is nothing about it that is "theory"..what research have you done on the issue? I dont know what relevance you having a family member in NASA really has to do with it. do you think that everyone who works at wallmart is a willing supporter of slave labour?

Anyone who has actaully taken then time to research this would not so easily dismiss the nazi origions of NASA.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silbervogel

^here you can find more solid evidence that the nazi party was in fact working towards a space program at least long before we are told the US was.

"The design was a significant one, as it incorporated new rocket technology, and the principle of the lifting body, forshadowing future development of winged spacecraft such as the X-20 Dyna-Soar of the 1960s and the Space Shuttle of the 1970s. In the end, it was considered too complex and expensive to produce. The design never went beyond mock up test."

The space shuttles later developed by NASA seem to have been based on that model. This is a fact. It is also a fact that the nazi party was working on some level of a space program since they were making models of "space planes" already at that time. it is also fact that the US did bring over scientists who were "nazi war heroes", and who later became figureheads at one point within NASA. NASA has even protected these "nazi war heroes" and awarded them medals!..hmm all those facts seem to make the idea of nazi origions within NASA not so far fetched at all.
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http://www.dailymotion.c...zi-secrets-revealed_news

^there is another source that outright makes statements about the "former nazi scientists" who made the "former american dream(walking on the moon) possible". Daily motion is not some new age or conspiracy media. Seriousily, people should do at least 5 minutes of research before comming here claiming things are conspiracy theories when they dont know anything about it.
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The US government recruiting a few German scientists to work on their space program after World War 2 hardly qualifies NASA as a Nazi organization (Imagine those sleazy governments on both sides wanting the top scientists in the world helping them out, how sinister! :rollSmile.

This does border on the topic of conspiracy theory and has no place on the nexus IMHO.

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