So I woke up this morning and my buddy was telling me about how i went crazy on him and threatened to kill him last night, i was shocked and didn't know what to say, i tried to remember what had happened. My buddy had a more clear memory of the experience and was explaining it to me, and as he was i started to remember back on the trip i had. We started off sitting there about to smoke dmt in some generic "posh skunk" or JWH blend. I hit the bowl and took a huge hit of dmt with a little bit of the posh, I started to feel funny like reality was different and that everything was changing, my buddy took the next hit and his eyes started to roll in the back of his head, seeing him there holding the pipe i decided to take it from him for one last hit, that's when everything went wrong. I got a huge hit of the posh and it gave me this really bad vibe. I was trying really hard to not let this force that was pulling me back take over me, and the next thing i remember was me sitting up like as if i was glued onto the bed and i was in my own little world that was revolving around me. My buddy took on the form of this evil human spirit, and when i looked at him he only looked like a free floating torso. I remember he was talking to me but i don't remember what he was saying, and to me it was like he wasn't there and my mind was playing tricks on me, and i was trying to block him out of my head. This went on for quite a long time as i was staring off into the room around me like it was a different void and i was trying to break free from this evil spirit that was holding me in place. All of a sudden i fell backward and it was like i was falling through a tunnel and this evil spirit was leaving my body so i could return. When i fell backward i hit my head very hard on this wood dresser behind me, in a daze i got right back up immediately my buddy was now yelling at me saying that i hit my head and i started to deny it because i didn't remember anything, he still seemed different from me but i could tell it was him, like he was returning to me in a good way and the evil was coming out of him. Then he started to ask me all these questions about what had happened and i didn't remember any of it at all.

This is him going to explain what he remembers:

I remember coming off a DMT trip and my friend asking me if we wanted to put some DMT into some JWH. We had done this earlier but my friend consumed more JWH than he thought. after taking two hits each we felt like we were about to blast off, possibly due to the fact there was about 2 breakthrough doses in the bowl. which this part of the trip was fine. and then my friend took another hit of JWH. I told him to stop because he was consuming way too much. I was tripping really hard at the time. so he took the bowl away from me and started to take the biggest hit ever. he exhaled and a giant cloud of smoke flew out of his lungs. All of a sudden there was complete total blackness in his eyes. like he was completely gone. i started talking to him and he gave me an evil look. and told me to shut up at first. i kept asking him what was wrong. and his eyes looked sadistic. He told me that he was going to kill me. Which scared the hell out of me. He started chanting in some weird tongues and tried to ignore me. Then we heard footsteps upstairs and he gasped in terror. i saw his eyes go completely black again, and they crossed. then he fell back and smacked his head on a dresser. He wakes up in a daze not knowing anything he said. I told him he said he never wanted to see me again and that i should just leave. He was in shock. But it seemed as if he started to peak when that happened. The rest of the trip was him having a terrified look on his face like he was going to die.

I had to share this with everyone here on the nexus so that you can be warned about the strong effects of this generic posh JWH blend and the bad energy it gives off toward someone you would of never of had a negative feeling toward.

Feel free to share you thoughts with us about this horrible trip so that we can better grasp what was happening to us.

that jwh stuff sounds horrible... glad your both alright afterwards...

i would like to know what is JWH bland ??? it looks like quite bad experience you had guys.

its branded as "posh skunk" in many head shops, but really its a generic blend of smoking herbs infused with a research chemical known as JWH. There are many types of JWH such as JWH-250, JWH-018, JWH-071, JWH-210... those are the more common ones. This research chemical is supposed to mimic the effects of marijuana, but unlike marijuana... the effects increase substantially more the more you smoke. Its very easy to overdo it and then all hell breaks loose.

doesn't sound like something I'd want to mix... thanks for the write-up. Glad you're ok. How is your friendship after this? Any residual strain?

much love
Enoon

Sounds like the "research chemical "is the problem .
Bad mix . dmt by itself is powerful enough without adding anything

I knew a guy who smoked a JWH and used to say he felt like he was in quicksand while high. He stopped because his legs would go numb randomly, while sober. Then he continued.

apparnently that jwh stuff is not good, dont know wjhat forum it was on but a bunch of people were saying ,after few months of smoking jwh they just could not feel any effects of real weed (n that was even afterr they waited month or to) :O

Interesting report. Sounds like you guys where amplifying each others fears, resulting in a vicious circle. I also like to blast off together at the same time but I guess it's safer to switch turns...

Glad to hear you're both okay.

I found your report interesting because it reminded me of a very difficult experience I once had with a friend. I had eaten about 5 grams of shrooms then smoked spice immediately after. The first hour after that was utterly fantastic, but it quickly escalated and got out of hand to the point where I was convinced I was the only "real" thing in existence, that death was impossible, and that my friend was an illusion sent to "hold me back". This resulted in some outlandishly irresponsible and disrespectful behavior on my part. We've sinced worked through it and are wiser explorers for the experience.

I believe what I actually experienced was a kind of psychotic break. It's never happened since, thankfully. Sounds like in your case this JWH stuff was the culprit, but important to remember to tread carefully when stretching out our minds.

I can tell you, that was the worst trip ever. The beginning was fun because of the breakthrough dose we both had consumed. (I was the friend witnessing it all happen) We were both talking about how hard we were being pulled down. As the spice wore off my friend started to change. He didn't look anything like my friend. This is about the time we laughed at something really funny. Then he started to frown at me and go psycho. if you look up the signs of an overdose on any JWH-xx, you'll see that what happened is that he was dangerously close to overdosing. He was somewhat experiencing psychosis. Trying to ignore me, because i looked like some annoying person he doesn't like on a TV. and that only half my body was present, floating.

All in all, we're still really good friends. It felt like a demon came between me and my friend and distorted ourselves with something that was a nightmare, my friend chanting in some weird tongue and telling me that he never wanted to see me again made me realize that wasn't him. Research chemicals are not advised, especially if you don't know whats around the corner.

P.S. I am new to DMT Nexus, Hello everyone

It's damn easy to od on some JWHs...while not physically dangerous it can be quite nasty.

A friend of mine smoked way too much -018 (with only 1 toke, it's VERY easy to overdo it) and was thrashing about for 15 minutes....he had no recollection of the incident.

Tolerance skyrockets quickly.

Please don't mix spice and JWHs.

It can be physically dangerous too. JWHs (more so the potent ones) block GABA way more aggressively than THC. This lowers a person's seizure threshold.

I have personally seen someone OD on JWH-018, he was immediately confused and scared. Within an hour he was having seizures (he never had a seizure before). He flat-lined and was revived at the hospital.

The point is JWHs pose a serious health risk when abused.

I stand corrected! JWH's can be dangerous physically.

WOW thats horrible, I've heard of od's and freakouts but no seizures and flatlining. Glad everyones ok.

There is no ceiling effect when it comes to any JWH like there is when it comes to THC. With THC you can smoke as much as you want. But with JWH the more you smoke, the more the effects increase more and more until you eventually go into psychosis, or worse. It wasn't our best judgment to do that, but it makes me realize how dangerous those chemicals are, and how RCs shouldn't be messed with, or combined with spice for that matter.

I've always had a bad feeling for JWH. Never tried it and never will.
I just don't like RC's at all.

That is horrible and scary, but it's awesome to hear you guys are okay though.. I'll certainly be staying away from JWH .

Thats quite interesting.

On a couple of occasions I've had seizure like episodes with cannabis that I assumed were related to low blood/sugar levels or under eating or something like that.

Do u have any references that go into more detail on this mechanism?

http://countyourculture.com/tag/jwh/

look at the article from 11/01/2010 called 'Synthetic Cannabinoids: The Alkylated Naphthoylindoles'(3rd one down and last one on the page)

towards the end of the 6th paragraph it's mentioned. This is just an article, but a very nicely written one, with refs cited (didn't read through the refs to find the proper info). I've seen it mentioned other places before, but this article sums up a lot of JWH activity.