PRE-CONDITIONS:
(mind)Set: Nervous excitement. Not perfectly balanced but not overly fearful either
(physical condition) Set: Didn't sleep especially well the previous night - but not uncommon for me having 2 kids
Setting (location): Home alone in lounge. A notably warm evening so just wearing shorts.
time of day: 20:00 - 22:00 - Sun going down
recent drug use: Alcohol over previous days. MDMA, cocaine, lsd & psilocybin last taken 3 weeks prior
last meal: Scrambled eggs & mushrooms on toast 12:00

PARTICIPANT
Gender: m
body weight: 66.7kg
known sensitivities: cannabis
history of use: first-timer

BIOASSAY
Substance(s): DMT, alcohol
Dose(s): (in the same order as Substances pls, use metric system i.e. g/ mg/ �g)
Method of administration: (dissolved in water, capsuls, insufflated, vaporized...)
10mg freebase dissolved in 50%PG/%50VG vape juice vaped at 520 degrees F, 20mg freebase dissolved in 50%PG/%50VG vape juice vaped at 520 degrees F. Alcohol unsure (3-4 284ml bottles over the preceding 8 or so hours)

EFFECTS
Administration time: T=0:00 - 10mg, T=1:00 - 20mg
Duration: (x hours) 0:05, 0:15
First effects: T=0:01, T=1:11
Peak: T=0:02, T=1:01-1:10
Come down: T=0:05 T=1:10-1:15
Baseline: T=0:10, T=1:30

Intensity (overall): (use HRS-like scale i.e. 0-4: 0 = "Not at all;" 1 = "Slightly;" 2 = "Moderately;" 3 = "Quite a bit;" 4 = "Extremely.": 4 - Extremely
Evaluation / notes: Terrifyingly overwhelming

OPTIONAL
Pleasantness: (0-4) 0
Implesantness: (0-4): 3
Visual Intensity: (0-4) 4 / 0 (i believe i may have shut myself off from the visuals due to their sheer intensity and speed)
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AFTER-EFFECTS
Hangover: (0-4 ; what type of impleasantness ; duration) 0
Afterglow: (0-4 ; what type of positive effects ; duration) 0


REPORT
Firstly let me say that i'm not really one for engaging in forums, but as stated in the Attitudes and T & Cs etc this really is a remarkable place, so much so that i felt compelled to make a post. Congratulations and sincere thanks to everyone involved for creating and maintaining such a unique and special place!

So as my first post i should probably introduce myself... I'm in my mid-40's and have been interested in psychedelics ever since discovering my dad's record collection in my early teens. Bill Hick's was a big influence too. Whilst i've taken Psilocybin on many occasions i've only had anything approaching a heroic dose on one occasion as a teenager. I used LSD quite a few times as an adolescent but now only very occasionally and in small doses - it doesn't seem to jive with me and higher doses tend to leave me befuddled and disconnected whereas Psilocybin jusdt works for me.

Meditation is a big part of my life and i typically do 40 - 50 mins every day. I encourage anyone that hasn't given meditation a good go to do so - it has changed my life for the better in subtle yet profound ways.

I am the kind of person that researches everything to the nth degree... I like to get obsessed with things for a while at least before moving on to my next obsession. Long story short: Reading Michael Pollan's 'How to Change Your Mind' reinvigorated my interest in psychedelics and their potential for the betterment of humankind. After finishing the book, and after too many failed attempts at growing psilocybin mushrooms i remembered i had some MHRB left over from a failed Ayahuasca experiment a number of years previous. Based on much of the wisdom shared here i successfully extracted Spice - approximately 0.3g of pure white (using room temp Naphtha) and 0.3 of yellow (using warm naphtha).

I then delved into the world of vape mods, considering that i would likely try the spice on my own, and vaping would therefore be the safest method.

I made my own 50% PG 50% VG vape juice and using the puff counter on the vape established 1ml of vape juice produced and average of 20 deep inhalations of vapour (at 520 degrees). Thereafter i dissolved ~400mg of spice into 1ml of vape juice, asserting that 1 deep inhalation would deliver ~20mg of DMT. My understanding was that useful doses would be 10mg (1/2 a lung-full - dip one's toe in the water), 20mg (1 lung-full - sub-breakthrough) and 40mg (2 lung-fulls - breakthrough).

Since i have family, opportunities for traveling are scarce, but an opportunity presented last weekend. In fairness i'm not sure i was in the perfect state of mind - a mix of excitement and gentle pressure that i only had a small window in which to conduct my experiments.

On top of that it was a hot day. As such I confess i'd had a few small bottles of cold beer over the course of the previous couple of hours. After meditating for 30 mins i took half a lung-full (~10mg) and held it for 5-7 seconds. Certainly I felt some effects - particularly tingling lips and a kind of 'wowing' headspace. It wasn't unpleasant per se, but i remember thinking i was looking forward to it stopping. I think the reason i wanted it to stop was because i knew at that dose I wouldn't be near bre ergo i wanted to come down quickly from the first blast ready to move on the next level. I realise having just written that down how weak that sounds - particular having read extensively as to the power of DMT and the importance of mindset. It sounds disrespectful in hindsight perhaps was so my apologies but i am learning.

Anyway an hour or so later with a small amount of trepidation and another bottle of beer I drew a full lung full (~20mg) and held it for 7ish seconds). Before i'd finished exhaling i was blasting off. From my perspective, 'blasting off' in no way conveys an intensity of meteoric proportions which takes your breath away in an almost literal and completely unromantic manner. Michael Pollan's 'strapped to a rocket holding on for dear life' is a good analogy but falls short. A roller coaster which is evidently doomed to derail might be another. I remember thinking 'This is something else - not DMT - something no-one's ever experienced' which was a pretty terrifying prospect at the time.

Visually however i can report very little however. I'm not sure whether my eyes were open or closed for the most part. I think my eyes must have been open at some point because for a split second the tv formed part of the a sliding tiles of my hallucinations, but otherwise i cannot describe any other visuals only to say they felt 2d - in fact rather close up and kind of suffocating - rather than the deep 3d landscape i was expecting - and that they were changing at light speed. If there were entities / buildings anything else in there with me it would have been impossible for me to reflect on them - nothing existed in one form long enough for me to focus on - which was as frustrating as it was overwhelming.

Otherwise all i can describe is the feeling and the best i've come up with was this: It was like falling overboard in terrible storm. I didn't know which way was up or which way was down. I didn't know if i was breathing or not. I didn't know if i was above the water or below. Whenever I attempted to conjur a thought or to realise myself another wave would crash down on me - and this would happen every microsecond or less. At the same time when i tried to think/realise myself it was as if there was a glitch in the matrix which would be accompanied by an electric shock - as if warning me not to go there.

10-15mins later I came around and my initial thought was 'I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy - never again!'. I was very sweaty - though this could have been just the heat of the night.

I sat there for a good 20 mins more trying to make sense of what had happened. Shortly after i was completely back to baseline with no after effects to speak of.

A couple of days on i am glad for the experience. Though i took little away from it I do feel a sort of privilege in experiencing something so indescribably mindblowingly intense and living to tell the tale.

If i knew it was going to be exactly the same next time i wouldn't choose to do it again, but there's a part of me that doesn't feel finished here. In particular I think of Joe Rogan's advice to Michael Pollan on the need for taking a second hit - that the rocket then takes you somewhere and kind of plateaus. Could this be where i need to go? I've read that near-breakthrough experiences can be the toughest - a kind of DMT purgatory... The glitching matrix/electric shock sounds like it could be connected to ego-death type affairs... I must say however that doubling the dose i took here is as you might expect a rather scary prospect.

Or did in fact i have too much and effectively black-out for a while (hence why i can't recall any visuals)? Or did i block out the visuals on account of how frighteningly overwhelming their speed and intensity were. Maybe the small amount of alcohol had a part to play in my discombobulation?

Perhaps i should start smaller and try to get used to the general feeling, meaning the more intense levels are less daunting/more manageable.

Did i breakthrough? Was I 'hyperslapped'? It is true... One is left with more questions than answers after an experience like this!

If anyone has any thoughts or advice i'd be really interested to hear them.

Regardless thanks to all the contributors here who have already provided me hours of education, insight and entertainment these past few months!

Stay safe!

SobersXI, thank you for the very detailed report. It's both very well-written and very informative. It truly sounds like a discombobulating journey! I have not experienced smoked or vaped dmt. In my experiences with oral consumption via ayahuasca or an analogue like harmala-jurema the most remarkable difference from the other psychedelics that I've tried is the acceleration. Even via oral consumption with a much longer onset there was a sense of things coming on faster and faster. I can only imagine how intense that would feel via smoke/vapor. The more gradual route seems more appealing to me at this point, but it does require at least four hours to complete the journey when consumed in tea.

DMT can be overwhelming and confusing at times. It can take you over rather quickly.

Likely the same old advice here. Just relax and know that everything is ok when you find yourself wanting out of the experience. Try and have fun with it if you can. Easier said than done.

Music can help ground you a bit, I enjoy music with no lyrics. Use your voice, this can be grounding as well. Hum, chant, laugh or just make any gibberish mouth noises. I find that any audio has a grounding effect for me. I would assume Icaros are used for this very reason. Anyhow.. just something that has helped me.

Just keep at it. Go at your own pace and I think you will find that the experiences evolve or maybe it's just getting used to the experience so you don't feel like your flung about in an ocean storm. With that in mind, intention can have a very profound effect on your experience as well. Think about why you are doing this... go in with a quest.

Be grateful! Allow the experience to unfold and try and not fight it. Anything that comes up is perfectly ok and it will pass. Integrate as best you can afterward, sometimes it helps to write things down or talk with someone shortly after your experience.

Good luck with your future endeavors!

Who can say what it was for sure, but no one smokes to have that happen. "'I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy - never again!' is exactly how it feels ! I know!

Thanks Himnish v interesting to hear the acceleration thing is an aspect of the oral route also! I have plans for a Pharmahuasca experience at some point so that's very useful info What sort of dose do you typically roll with?

Thanks YouAreWeAmI never heard that advice on making noise etc I'll certainly give that a try at some point And Icaros... Learning every day!

With regards to your 30mg would you describe that as your breakthrough dosage? Or are you saying you enjoy traveling below that threshold?

You feel like that regularly? And keep going back?

30mg is a breakthrough for me. I like to go all the way. I find the experience is much better than sub threshold doses. It's highly personal.

I just gotta say, I had a pretty full on experience first time and it was FranLover helped by saying if you have the courage, they are not all like that, or words to that affect. it helped me a lot, I haven't had one as full on as the first one, maybe you didn't see anything because it was moving too fast, or you eyes decided to stop working, they do that, damn eyes.

But from the helpful advice of people here and I continued, every week or two, Still like jumping out of a plane, still a bit exciting. I do get violently cold each time, does this happen to anyone else?

All im trying to say is if I stopped after my first time I wouldn't have the wonder of a new world, its different each time and sometimes the same.

Courage mate, and remember it is all going to be ok, its meant to be this way.

Yea, I get real cold too.
I was out on the deck earlier today, out of the wind, in full sun...low 70's.
I tested my new vape pen (Prism) with 45mg freebase. Sat in a comfortable chair, overlooking the California coast line. The pen worked OK on lowest setting, about 320f degrees.
I needed to take two hits because the pen only fires for 10 seconds before it shuts off automatically (darn). And the coil doesn't heat up until 5 seconds into it.

Anyway, I was out in hyperspace. The entire landscape was drenched in radiance and patterned mosaics that flowed and shifted across the hills and fields. The ocean was similarly patterned, as well as the air and the sky itself. The sunlight seemed to have increased in brightness and warmth and I could see detailed features of landscapes miles away. My dog sat in the shade and came over during this time. His fur seemed made of streaming orange light and the patterns that crossed the landscape were etched into each of his hairs, across his face and in his eyes. Everything was streaming light and the birds were tracing endless streaks across the sky.

I sat there and was filled with the utter beauty of it all, the world draped over with the most intricate and beautiful patterns and mosaics imaginable. It was like bathing in pure beauty.

About 7-8 minutes later, the glory faded and i started shivering with cold. My hands were ice cold and my knees were shaking. I sat for another couple of minutes, hoping the sun would warm me up. But it didn't and I went inside and laid down with a blanket.

Cheers Kettle... It's funny how the fear has dissipated since the big event... I'm now so adamant about wanting to try again i've surprised myself! In the same way that the dream fades so quickly so too does the fear it seems... Makes sense i suppose given that memories of the experience are so notoriously difficult to hold on to...

With regards to feeling cold - i wasn't able to sense anything of my physical body during the experience - only hot, sweatiness as i came round - which as i said could have been as much due to the sticky weather as much as the molecule.

On another note can i ask when people smoke

1) how long do you typically hold your breath?
2) how long would you leave it in between hits?

I ask because i was considering starting small and then topping up with further small hits to gently push the envelope so to speak... Some friends are also interested in an introduction and i figured this might be a better approach than my baptism of fire - I'm not sure they'd thank me if i gifted them my first experience lol!

I may be a bit different to everyone else, but I generally don't weight it, as I have tried a few extraction tek and am moving towards evaporation rather then precip, or a bit of both. so its a bit gooey and I just scrape it out of the glass container, I have checked its about 20-50mg a time but I do it bye eye, my tolerance is different all the time so yesterday I smoked lot for me to breakthrough 70-80 mg but I had cleaned the scourer, im sure half the time there is probably enough goo in the scourer left over to half breakthrough. then I got really cold (have to remember that, always forget), had a shower with the lights off an had a universe in the bathroom, with aliens was amazing.I breath in as much as I can and hold it as long as I can, bong smoker, I may start off slow but in the end its so hard to remember what im doing or why im doing it, I try smoking close together but sometimes I don't like the flavour so have a break for a few breaths.

im way more comfortable there now, I remember what I've done most of the times, If I smoked each weekend id be more comfortable again I think, however everyone's different and I don't want to give any advice that could stitch you up.

It is amazing, I never tell any of my mates its not a full on experience, it is scary, but I get calm pretty quickly and I can see more. lots more, lots of dali type stuff yesterday, and the place where I can only describe it as me in patterns, my health, where I can be judged or shown things so I quit cigarettes thinking I wouldn't be judged as hard, see im scared. that's not the full story I wanted to quit anyway but I used it like that.

They have never spoken to me in sounds. im not that fussed. other people see different things,

How good are dogs on dmt, im sure mine is my power animal. im thinking ill try and remember a hot shower before I smoke dmt rather then during it. Showers great and all just sometimes its hard to remember how the taps work...… yep I love outside and out where we live the stars are amazing, but I get cold, its funny, solved the nausea, fear, making it and now sometimes I feel like ive been in a freezer

Btw I just have to say on a positive there have been times where the ride has been smooth, euphoric, wonderous and pleasant like amazingly pleasant, after experiences like that I do say DMT is my favorite drug by far and wish it could continue for hours and hours, sometimes after I return, I have one or two big breaths and I'm back to the other side for another ride, if I have enough lying around. im just saying I do do it regularly because It can be amazing.

im just saying its not just soul sucking dementor feeling fear. not even close.... good luck buddy

I named my dog "friend" in an ancient language. He is a large Norwegian Elk Hound, 130 lb or so. Big hair, a mane like a lion, light sandy/orange with (old age) white face and chest. I was sitting in a deck chair in the sun and he sat some 20 feet away from me initially, in the shade. He watched me fire the spice and let me launch on my own.

I guess he knew when I was comfortable, and he came over and put his head on my lap. He was an amazing being to behold, looking into my eyes with total love and trust.

Dogs are amazing!