SWIM has tried this lime STB 3 times,

First was thwarted by the limonene dissolving a plastic spoon and forming a bond that concentrated HCL could not break in something like a DMT-polystyrene salt glob.
It was frustrating as hell but is funny in retrospect.

Second was 75g MHRB and yielded .65% that I counted so far, but it was done during 2 other extractions and SWIM had some spilages and other problems. He was not going for yield but rather just getting some viable product unlike last time.

This one he documented thoroughly and is going to share to prove it works.

First 175g Lime (CaOH) was added to 250g MHRB




Then while very slowly adding and mixing 525ml of Tap water was added and mixed




Next 750ml of D-limonene was added




SWIM found it was hard to mix thoroughly without spilling the limonene so he poured out about 1/2 leaving only about 1/2 inch (1cm) higher that the bark

SWIM also added another splash of water to make it a little more gooey and easier to stir

SWIM left the mix, mixing thoroughly with a bamboo skewer 3-6 times a day for 2.5 days. He wanted to see if he could get a giant pull off of the little bit of limonene, he is still not sure how long it takes.


Anyway. SWIM poured off the d-limonene 2.5 days later and added the rest of the d-limonene that was left aside on the bark goo.

SWIM added 50-100ml hot tap water to the limonene in a plastic bag then added 5-10 ml of 31% HCl and shook it HARD for about 3-5 minutes.
This turned the water and limonene from transparent to cloudy, but not after the first shake.
(this is a picture of the second HCl pull)


He cut the bottom and seperated the 2 liquids. Then repeated the step with fresh water and HCl.


The next step is one SWIM would like to change.
SWIM added a chunk of 10-20g lye to the mix.
He has had 0 results in the past with Sodium carbonate....

Anyway after adding the lye the mix turned extremely cloudy with precipitating DMT freebase. SWIM added a splash of naptha and shook it in the plastic bag.
He shook the junk out of it, emulsions settled in less than 2 minutes. (picture is BEFORE shaking, naptha was slightly yellow after))



He separated the naptha and did another pull which yielded nothing.


After 12 hours in the freezer SWIM poured off the naptha and let it dry.




He let it dry and the first pull yielded 813mg



Then he took the fresh limonene that was added a couple hours earlier and stirred for about 10 minutes.

He did the exact same process and now it looked like this.


This yielded 602mg when scraped up.

SWIM will update later with the limonene which was re-added to the bark and will be salted, freebased and pulled like the others. There should still be a bunch in there SWIM assumes.

The last limonene pull yielded 356mg

This puts the total to 1.772g from 250g bark.

0.7% not bad at all

SWIM would like to do this tek w/o lye but he has tried sodium carbonate in the past with no results, maybe next time he'll try a super-saturated solution....

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This is a Base-Acid-Base, not straight to base but looks good.

Why was Naptha added? Does limonene not dissolve freebase?

This puts the total to 1.772g from 250g bark.

0.7% not bad at all

SWIM thinks that since the mixture is so gooey it is hard to stir so all the lime hits every particle of the bark.

In the other non-toxic extraction threads it meantions using a blender. Though SWIM read it wrong and produced an unbreakable mix of goo and limonene he is confident he can use a blender to make the tek better and easier.

Next time he'll mix the bark-lime-water in a blender for a day and a half then (not blending) mix some limonene through. maybe

Limonene evaporates SO SLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW (plus not cleanly) and does not freezer precipitate. Thus naptha is a much faster and cleaner method.

SWIM just wanted to show that a method where no lye touching the bark could work. He is well aware it is not STB but SWIM is producing freebase only right now, if he wanted fumarate it would STB+fumarate conversion

I never said anything about fumarate, just noting the terminology in describing the tek is incorrect. You basify, acidify and re-base.

This just seems like a lot of work to me but I'm too lazy to do anything but the milk-jug stb.

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Lye is very dangerous and in some places it’s almost impossible to purchase without arousing suspicion. Lime is extremely safe compared to lye and a purchase of it doesn't arouse any suspicion.

While I would say that storing lime in a house where children live is not the best idea, but one that can be reasonable if done right, storing lye in a house where children live is a very bad idea.

Lye is far too dangerous for the average person to have in their home. If you look at all the lye accidents leading to blindness, permanent scars, etc., it’s pretty clear it’s not something the average guy should be toying around with.

If you get some wet lime in your eyes, because its so poorly soluble in water you’ll be ok if you wash it out within a few minutes.

If you get some wet lye in your eyes, it’s a serious emergency situation. You need to wash it immediately. Tissue damage is pretty much guaranteed, and permanent blindness can be the result.

So using lime instead of lye has its obvious advantages. And with all the techs out there now using it, there’s no reason you need to use lye anymore.

This does seem like a lot of trouble to SWIM (plus, still almost as toxic as most other teks), but it serves as yet another report of the functionality of lime. The only thing that makes this one a little tougher is purely the mechanics of the method. SWIM's getting better results from what he considers to be a simpler approach than this or STB. Ron's right about how unnecessary lye has become. The only reason people are still using it is because they're accustomed to it, have a lot on hand, because of lack of detailed reports of adequate yields, and the lack of surefire teks (which is what SWIM's aiming for).

Lye is used for pretzel making and other cooking things. If you can't take the precautions to protect yourself, you shouldn't be smoking DMT. A hoodie and sunglasses are all the protection you really need.

SWIM changed the tek to be much easier. He scrapped the limonene and is just pulling straight with naptha.

Just started this morning and he is testing how long it takes for the freebasing.

So far pulls off 50g mhrb:

1 hour: 18mg

3 hour: 27mg

8 hour: 51mg

24 hour: 15mg

36 hour: 33mg

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but if you're pulling with naphtha doesnt the pH need to be higher than when you pull with limonene which is mainly why limonene is used for this particular tek?

SWIM has pulled almost 100mg of pure white spice from 50g which was tested to be the most potent spice SWIM has ever smoked.

So while limonene might work better for pulling power, naptha still works for sure!

(SWIM is about to do his 24 hour pull in 24 minutes.)

Cool

So its just naptha,lime,mhrb,water?

true that! 2/1/2/(3ish) ratio

So 50ml naptha per pull (added with container in hot water bath then when warm stirred 3-4 times over 20 minutes)

25g lime (slightly more) and 50g MHRB

The water is tricky, don't measure but add a little and mix until you're happy.



but SWIM just did the 24 hour pull and there is very little in it.... Looks like 10mg or less...
Then again SWIM's other tried were left for 2.5 days (60 hours) or more.

SWIM thinks maybe it pulls the N-oxides first than the rest or vice versa. He will update full findings

Updated:
With the super simple naptha-lime-bark

24 hour: 15mg

36 hour: 33mg

48 hour: 38mg

Nice work! Thanks for the great pics and extensive docs!

More proof that lime works well, I tried it in a wet hot tek, which works too. Don't really like that thick paste and the large amount of limo needed...

Is your product purer than the lye STB product?

The limonene STB-to-A/B spice was just off-white and got darker with more pulls.

But the Naptha STB has been crystal white on every pull so far!