do you need to dry acacia bark before doing an A/B extraction? or can you use it fresh?

I've never done it, but fresh ought to work just fine. No sense in removing all the water before adding acidified water to it.

Fresh is fine I'm sure

I strongly suggest you mulch the shit out of the bark while it is fresh, MUCH easier to chop up that way. Run it through again once dry

yea it was mulched when it was wet and it is alot easier then dry. Do you use a mulcher? i used a blender but i can only do a bit at a time.

thanks for the replies

Blenders and coffee grinders really just aren't made for that kind of thing;
from Bunnings you should grab a Talon 3 blade system mulcher for about $300. I've already destroyed about five blenders
A decent mulcher is well worth it, give it good maintenance also

yep this one

I don't know why everyone on here insists on shredding it when it is wet/fresh...

I only ever do this when dry as it pulverizes to a crisp when it is nice and crispy.

I just stick it in a garden mulcher... then leave some in the sun while some in the oven somewhere between 100-200

Then it goes in to a 1000w blender (four blade arms). If you want to save time buy two. Then you tilt the blender halfway onto it's side (90 degrees tilt) and shake it and then let it do the work. The tilt makes it not stick to the bottom and rush all over the jug providing more contact with blades. On for a total of 240 seconds (4 minutes) and that gets it in to a powder/shredded form like this:



Freezing then blending is just horrible!!!! The whole thing melts and then you are left with wet bark in the blender that doesn't decompose.

Just the area to read about extraction before em...barking :-)

The only problem i can think of is the weights being off if you use a specific tek. Obviously fresh bark will weigh more than dried bark. Who knows

Fur sure TB, in 24 hrs went from 348g to 192g obtusfolia bark & leaf including feeding through the blender 1/2 a dozen times and leaving in sun to dry some more.

That being as it is, then an earlier Nen comment about the final extraction being less with the wet material stacks up as a no-brainer.

I've done the drying gradually and carefully as it has taken me 5 years to grow this from seed, only had one hit ever of the DMT & it has taken me about 6 years to be called back again.

First time OBE and life changing...

I would think that starting with dry material would be better. Whether doing an A/B, STB, or starting with a solvent like alcohol, being dry allows the solvent or water that carries H+ or OH- to penetrate deeper into the material and thus pulls more alkaloids into solution. When there is water in the material, this has to be displaced by solvent or ions have to penetrate molecular barriers built by the plant.

And to top it off, it's very difficult to pulverize wet material into a powder as the moisture protects the material. Water is pretty much an incompressable fluid which takes most of the blow from a blade or mill head and spreads the force over more material rather than letting the implement bite into or shatter the material. The finer the material is ground, the more surface area is in contact with acid, base, or solvent.

If anyone has ever tried to mow a lawn right after a heavy rain storm, you might have some insight into how it is much easier to process organic matter when dry.

I have not done this yet, but the way I would approach it would be to mulch wet for faster drying. Mulch it again when dry. Then put it in a burr mill (coffee grinder). This will produce a dusty sand texture. Some grain mills might be able to handle it and produce a fine powder but are much more expensive.

Nice one S...some good insights there with the chopping and grinding, not sure about this until the end result but have an eye for details...following Cybs Hybrid ATB 'Salt' Tek so might jump the bark grinding ship for a while and head over to some other threads nearing the next step of the evolution. ;-)