Quote:I'm sure many people have extracted 5-meo-dmt from chailponga
Why are you so sure, what is the evidence?
Quote: 69ron was adamant that its present its just destroyed easily and the leaves when not fresh and dried lose its content
69ron was an interesting fellow, he contributed a lot to this community years ago, but he also sometimes misrepresented some scientific facts to fit his arguments, and was involved in some unethical business selling harmine saying it was THH, so take what he says with a grain of salt.
Quote:but thort many people have extracted what they tort to be 5-meo and dmt mix or something else other than dmt present in the end
People have thought a lot of things, but this was never backed up with evidence. My hypothesis is that it's all self-suggestion, because 69ron was so adamant with his unfounded rumours, people believed him, and then took a psychoactive substance having a certain belief they were ingesting 5-meo-dmt, therefore felt something different than just DMT, but it's their expectations which were the key there. Another factor to consider is that chaliponga has a very high DMT content, and therefore some people were overdosing themselves and due to the extreme DMT amounts they were taking, it definitely felt overwhelming, so they were quick to blame on "other alkaloids"
As an example which I just mentioned in another thread recently, one Nexian had a chaliponga sample he swore that was not just DMT, it gave him dark trips, it was too powerful, etc. So he sent it to me and I took it to a lab to analyse. Result? Just DMT, albeit a lot of it. He expected something different, plus he was taking high dosages, so its normal he felt different. Fact is, there was no 5-MeO-DMT there, nor any other alkaloids in significant amounts.
Quote:could you recommend an extraction tek for chailponga that would extract its full range of alkaloid so I end up with a dmt and other alkaloid mix product
Lets ignore for a second all I said above, and lets say you have a new plant that can have 5-MeO-DMT or other non-toxic alkaloids that you want to consume. You could try any tek that uses a more polar solvent, any tek that uses limonene, xylene or toluene (for example BLAB tek, or q21 tek). You can also use an alcohol-based tek like
this.
Good luck!