It's not what we do, it's how we do it.
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I'm new and I don't understand something basic: if I'm trying to make something to smoke, why not a wax and vape or smoke it on a leaf bed? Why the need to refine to crystal?
And, why are y'all paying people to rip up MH trees when they could just be picking leaves from P Viridis?!
Thank you.
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Posts: 7463 Joined: 21-May-2008 Last visit: 14-Jan-2025 Location: the lab
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probably because it's easier to handle/weigh. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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Stay humble don’t stumble
Posts: 66 Joined: 25-Nov-2017 Last visit: 05-Aug-2019 Location: Tx
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I like the oily goo.
I really like the oily goo if you add in a touch of crystal spice.
It feels like a vitamin working it’s way through my body and soul.
On a couple of occasions I pull and pull and pull then mix everything together. So good.
Seems like a slightly harsher smoke but just go low and slow..you’ll get there
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Long live the world in peace, prosperity, and freedom from suffering
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White crystals are a sign of purity with most of the drugs one knows. White fluffy crytals are more apetizing for one's eyes. One agrees that to hurt a tree so ctitically is the worst option compared to harvesting P Virids. If there is a concrete reason why, perhaps higher dmt yield or easier extraction, one is interesting in learning this. Todo lo que quiero es que me recuerdes siempre así...amándote. Mantay kuna kayadidididi~~Ayahuasca shamudididi. Silence ○ Shiva ◇ eternal Purusha. What we have done is establish the rule of authority in silence. Silence is the administrator of the universe. In silence is the script of Natural Law, eternally guiding the destiny of everyone. The Joy of Giving ♡See the job. Do the job. Stay out of the misery.♡May this world be established with a sense of well-being and happiness. May all beings in all worlds be blessed with peace, contentment, and freedom.This mass of stress visible in the here & now has sensuality for its reason, sensuality for its source, sensuality for its cause, the reason being simply sensuality.
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Professional Tracker
Posts: 620 Joined: 29-Jan-2017 Last visit: 08-Jan-2021
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dogsoldier wrote:I'm new and I don't understand something basic: if I'm trying to make something to smoke, why not a wax and vape or smoke it on a leaf bed? Why the need to refine to crystal?
And, why are y'all paying people to rip up MH trees when they could just be picking leaves from P Viridis?!
Thank you. If you’re interested in the leaf bed method look into changa and enhanced leaf. The reason for refined crystal is because no ody wants junk mixed in with their target molecule. It’s a pretty universal practice and helps with things like precision dosing as well as making a good ingredient, you want purity. As far as ripping up mh trees, seems at this point in time, again similar with most things, there are more ethical routes than others to do whatever it is you’re doing. It is on you to make sure your actions fall in line with your beliefs. One of the more active topics I see here that I don’t see elsewhere is the search for other plants that contain active ingredients, thus lessening the burden on a specific few. I believe your battle in that regard is elsewhere.
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 1111 Joined: 18-Feb-2017 Last visit: 12-Jul-2024
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I have drunk 500 grams (!) of P. viridis in one go and not felt anything, so there is that. Most of the the leaf available outside of the Amazon is poor quality or inactive.
MHRB is very potent. ACRB, being a weed, is an even more sustainable alternative.
Growing P. viridis is not that easy. My friends in a tropical climate (but not in the Amazon) grow it in greenhouses for shade and protection from pests and on drip lines (they're thirsty) and they're still affected by bugs and need to be cleaned by hand. MH, on the other hand, grows freely without any help.
As for crystal vs goo, I think it's a concern for those vaping or smoking. For drinking it doesn't matter.
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It's not what we do, it's how we do it.
Posts: 22 Joined: 15-May-2019 Last visit: 31-Jul-2019
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Jagube wrote:I have drunk 500 grams (!) of P. viridis in one go and not felt anything, so there is that. Most of the the leaf available outside of the Amazon is poor quality or inactive.
MHRB is very potent. ACRB, being a weed, is an even more sustainable alternative.
Growing P. viridis is not that easy. My friends in a tropical climate (but not in the Amazon) grow it in greenhouses for shade and protection from pests and on drip lines (they're thirsty) and they're still affected by bugs and need to be cleaned by hand. MH, on the other hand, grows freely without any help.
As for crystal vs goo, I think it's a concern for those vaping or smoking. For drinking it doesn't matter. Thanks man! I will look into ACRB. Being a noob I'm overwhelmed by the chemistry, so if I end up with goo i'll just mix it into a leaf like mullein I think!
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Stay humble don’t stumble
Posts: 66 Joined: 25-Nov-2017 Last visit: 05-Aug-2019 Location: Tx
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The viridis ive been growing is little to no maintenance, in zone 9a/b. Never had bugs on it either while everything around it had a few mealys. However I cannot confirm the quality of leaf. It’s difficult for me to pluck and cut my plants. Someday though.
I totally see why people want purity for weighing out doses. Good practice for sure.
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