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Runwithme
#1 Posted : 5/8/2019 10:36:25 AM
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Hi folks.

first of all I want to say hi to u. I am new here, and I am excited to be here.
I am also new to the DMT.
So I have a problems to get rid of the excitement, "fear" when i use DMT.
First of all, i never broke through at this time. I tried some microdosing about 12mg and some
higher ones about 30mg. But I am always very nervous when i take it.
My heartbeat raises very high and that's ruins my hole experience.
Otherwise I read that when u take a larger dose ist easier to let go.
So my 2 questions:

1. What can i do against the nervousness?
2. will it be easier on the higher dose (breakthrough) to let go?

Looking forward to your replies! Smile
 

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Achilles
#2 Posted : 5/8/2019 11:09:22 AM

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I’ve recently been dealing with similar feelings. From what I’ve read it doesn’t really get easier you just learn to cope better. I think a big part is don’t force it. Only go if you are feeling inclined or even kind of excited. I’d keep microdosing and getting used to the waiting room. Start practicing telling yourself to just go with the flow, and practice trying to fade out the voice in your head... dmt is kinda like a high dive. It’s intimidating alll the way up until you let go and take the jump then it becomes a fun and exciting experience. Hopes this helps someThumbs up ... good luck.. learn, share, expand.
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Runwithme
#3 Posted : 5/8/2019 1:04:49 PM
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Thanks, that's helped me a lot. Funny that you compare this with a high jump. I have fear of heights Pleased But I'm trying to grow out of myself. another question about the "waiting room": How exactly is the definition here? I've only ever had 2D visualizations with my current dosages. Patterns that have practically drawn me into them. Basically I get shaken back and forth quite a lot. Pleased Are all these early stages called "waiting rooms" or is there really a "room" where you are before the breakthrough?
 
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#4 Posted : 5/8/2019 2:27:13 PM

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Runwithme wrote:
Thanks, that's helped me a lot. Funny that you compare this with a high jump. I have fear of heights Pleased But I'm trying to grow out of myself. another question about the "waiting room": How exactly is the definition here? I've only ever had 2D visualizations with my current dosages. Patterns that have practically drawn me into them. Basically I get shaken back and forth quite a lot. Pleased Are all these early stages called "waiting rooms" or is there really a "room" where you are before the breakthrough?

I never experienced any kind of room.

I would simply just go for it. Fear tends to only get stronger when you don't confront it.
 
Runwithme
#5 Posted : 5/8/2019 3:04:36 PM
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word! Smile
 
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#6 Posted : 5/8/2019 3:10:12 PM

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Jees created a compilation thread about pre flight anxiety. It's worth a read.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=947070#post947070
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#7 Posted : 5/8/2019 10:21:24 PM

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Hello friend! I'm glad your here it's a great place to Learn and hopefully grow..
I'll give you a bit of advice based on my first few journeys.

I was terrified to be honest and I still am every time I explore, one good way to stop the anxiety is just remember as long as your with someone you trust or even better (in my opinion) yourself, you will be perfectly fine. Scared maybe but fine. Its a beautiful place and although it can be terrifying at times it's not here to harm like other substances.


Good luck and much love to you! I hope you learn a lot and have all questions answered. It's a great community.Big grin
 
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#8 Posted : 5/9/2019 5:13:35 AM

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One can take up exercise, healthy foods, and meditation in nature. This will make one calmer even if only done the same day as the dmt smoalking!

This will get one's whole body relaxed, mind still, heart rate down...Yet one will most always still be afraid of dmt

But what happens if one inquires, ever so carefully, into what has brought about this fear and what is the nature of this fear? As well as asking oneself; what is fear? And must one live with it or is there an alternative? And to look at these things very slowly...

We fear many things in daily life. Many of our decisions in life stem from fear.

One might go so far as to say that the dmt is irrelevent. What if this was another scenario and one felt this enormous fear...how does one deal with it? Does one repress it or brush it off, or compensate by behaving in a manner which is the opposite of fear? Or do you sit and stay with the fear, observe it as it flows through you, learn and grow from it...

Its not your fear, or my fear, but fear. It lies at the root of all the mistakes and horrors of mankind. That one should be afraid is nothing new...but to break free of fear...that is revolutionary. If one lives a life free of fear, and hence free, one has single handedly righted all the wrongs of the problem of being, for your brain is the brain of humanity and life, and to take a step in the right direction means advancment for all beings.

And in layman's terms; grow a pair will ya! Razz
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Achilles
#9 Posted : 5/9/2019 11:01:25 AM

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Lol ^ that could actually help lmao.... when you start to get nervous tell yourself to grow a pair and you’ll probably either start laughing or start feeling real empowered... either way it could help
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Runwithme
#10 Posted : 5/9/2019 10:18:29 PM
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Hi Guys. Thanks to all of u! Your advices help al lot. i will take dmt this saturday with a friend again and hope to stay relaxed. Actually i am really looking forward to it. Smile i will report u on sunday!. Smile Peace!
 
Runwithme
#11 Posted : 5/12/2019 12:01:46 PM
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hello, guys. I didn't have a good trip yesterday. Basically this is what I was most afraid of. Which is interesting but it also was really frightening. My excitement before it was actually under control. We took it twice. At the first dose of 35 mg I was totally excited because it was so beautiful. I didn't have a breakthrough again but the patterns and colors I was drawn through were super beautiful. And behind the patterns I saw the universe. And I thought to myself "omg" I had to go there, but at the same time I knew that the dose was not enough. After one hour I took the second dose of 50mg.
That went off again with the blatant patterns only then it all became so blatantly fast. and then a kind of spiral formed in front of me and the music we wore dissolved into single tones. And then I was in this spiral and everything was repeated over and over again. And then, of course, there was panic that I would stay here forever. I don't know how long that went on. Time and space and music were completely dissolved. I think I had this "Ego Death" and fought against it instead of letting it happen. In my panic I opened my eyes and asked my friend how long I had been away. His words were repeated endlessly. " 4 minutes, 4 minutes... "
At that moment I didn't know what 4 minutes meant anymore. Whether this is long or short. When I looked at him he looked like an alien. With big dark eyes and very scary. Then I closed my eyes again and then the repetitions started from the beginning but also everything somehow backwards in time. I then grabbed his hand and it felt like stone. Completely inhuman. Oh dear, I thought I will go crazy. Then I noticed that it slowly stops and after about 7 minutes the spit was over.
And today I am just super sad on the one hand that I had no nice experience of which most talk. But I think the experience should also tell me something. Maybe that I am also caught in a loop in real life. The work that I don't really enjoy and in which I am stuck. And so on.
I would have liked to have seen other beings and worlds. But as everyone says they take dmt more often. You get the experience you need and not the experience you want. I don't know if I can ever take it again or dare it. Probably my bad experience was also due to the lack of letting me fall. I fought so hard against it and therefore everything became even worse.
What do you think? the dose may have been too high or too low. Unfortunately, I can't describe everything that I saw any more, because I forgot almost everything again. But it was basically all mathematics and together and into each other. In any case not beautiful. just confused.
Or is that just where you have to go before the breakthrough and if you don't manage to let go you just can't get any further?
looking forward to some answers of u! Peace and love!

 
 
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