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GusF
#1 Posted : 4/28/2019 4:44:12 PM
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I'll try to be as organized and concise as possible. I have read tons of reports, so I'm writing this sort of with an eye towards those trying to learn as much about this stuff as they can before they partake.

Some stats / info:
I'm 35, 6'2, 190 lbs, male.
I've been interested in Aya for about 20 years.
Never did any drugs except caffeine lol.
I approached this quest, to do aya, in two ways:
1.) Spiritual--Right hemisphere (if you're into that kind of thing)
2.) "scientific"--Left hemisphere

The Brew:
First, I want to mention that I tried to make traditional aya. I tried 5x with a friend, and each time we just got very sick for a few hours. A few projectile and powerful purges were experienced. I'm not one to glorify the purge, but I will speak more about that later. Either I prepared it incorrectly, or I had some weak materials. I was also quite cocky and drank 1.5 cups of basically mud (measuring cups in the technical sense) my first go (which I only held down for 15 min), which was about 89g of caapi and about 150g chacruna.

Anyways, I'll leave that at that for now, and get to my current successful experience.

I did a cold water extraction method for making my brew with MHRB. I cut up pieces of MHRB and used a coffee grinder to "powder" it (it wasn't a perfect powder). I didn't have glass jars on hand (they were being used to store my traditional aya that I was still saving in the fridge), so I put 21g MHRB powder along with 1 cup water into a Ziploc bag, then into the refrigerator for 48 hrs.

I likewise ground up 3g Syrian Rue seeds in the coffee grinder and took them with a shot of orange juice 35 min prior to ingesting 1/4 cup of the MHRB liquid (~5.25g MHRB) which I filtered using a coffee filter.

The Experience:
I tried to keep track of time with my phone so that I could give you all an organized and precise timeline. But I lost track of each event in relation to the time, so I have just a series of experiences jumbled up in no order.

Sickness:
I was not sick/nauseous for the first 45min after eating the Syrian Rue. About 10 min after drinking the MHRB, I thought I might be getting sick. This feeling came and went in waves, getting worse and peaking about an hour into it. I had also taken 5 drops, sublingual, of lemon essential oil about 10 min prior to drinking the MHRB. At the 1 hour mark, I went to my bucket that was beside my bed (sitting upright for safety) and I was ready for a purge. My previous purges on traditional aya were forceful and sudden, like 3 second warning to get to the bucket and then exorcist levels of puking ensued. But this was very gentle, and no purge came. I hovered over the bucket for a while, maybe 3 or 4 minutes, hoping to purge, but it subsided. I went back to the bed.

I would say at the 45 min mark I was starting to get some faint visuals, closed eye and open, but nothing like I've seen described. Very faint chaotic, slightly colored balls, almost like a swarm of bees were buzzing around the room. At one point there was a faint geometric pattern trying to "break through" into my reality but was held back by something like a translucent field. I suspected if it had broken through, I might enter hyperspace.

Anyways, after that first fake-out purge attempt, I lost track of things completely. But here's a rundown of the types of experiences.

1. Surgery: There were 4 or 5 entities that presented themselves in a reflection of a glass window that was in an operating theater. They presented as doctors with surgical masks on. They were physically behind me, so I couldn't see them directly. This was not a vivid visual, but more like a sense, or imagining as I experienced the surgery. My lower jaw was numbed, almost like when you get novocaine at the dentist. It was slacked and open. I felt I looked quite stupid to the entities. Then I felt like I was being "put out" with stronger anesthetizing substances, yet I remained aware, but unable to move my body. I tried to communicate with them. If you are familiar with the movie Vanilla Sky, I tried yelling "Tech support!!!!" at them lol. They didn't seem to understand or be aware of my attempts at communication. There was no pain or fear in the surgery, I just went with it.

2. I was "born" into the world 1,000 times as 1,000 different species of life. This was rapid and kind of anxiety-ridden in that my consciousness would experience the "what it is to be born" and "what it is to be animal X" but then it would become aware that it is my consciousness, a human one, and that it doesn't belong there. So I would concentrate on not being "housed" in that body, like once I was a fly lol, I concentrated on not being the fly, and was transported to another animal. This was not an overall bad experience, just very alien to me, and definitely made me think of all life (perhaps even non-life) as having a consciousness I cannot readily recognize.

3. Out of body: At one point I was laying in bed in the fetal position but I was outside my body, sort of hovering above it looking down. There were entities seemingly learning what it is to have a body by stimulating my nervous system (don't know how else to describe it) and making me move in certain ways. Like my leg would jerk, totally out of my control.

4. Vibrating: There was a frequency that I "heard" 3x, but "hearing" it isn't quite right, it is more like I heard it with my body and started to vibrate with it. So at first, my hand felt like it was vibrating, then the sensation would move throughout my body. Once it started at my ankle. Another time I heard it more audibly from a white noise machine I had going. This time it started to "jitter" my visuals, which were simple shapes, dimly colored red and green, very faint, but they started to vibrate uncontrollably with that "frequency" that I was getting from the white noise machine. I asked my friend to turn off the machine since I was "stuck" in that frequency. It stopped when the machine was turned off.

5. Tracers?. Not much to be explained, simple visual phenomenon if I was checking my phone for time (which required great effort on my part) and moved the phone in the dark, I would see it lagging, or multiple phones in succession.

6. I felt like I was being pushed down into the waters of unconsciousness. I would forget that I needed to breathe, then remember and scramble to the surface to gasp for breath. I felt very heavy like I was sinking into the bed, and into water. I felt like my life was at stake if I didn't get to the surface to breathe, but I was not afraid during this. Again, I just went with it.

Overall, I wanted this experience to be a gentle introduction to the aya analog, as opposed to my cockiness when I was trying traditional aya. I feel like it was that, as there was nothing that I couldn't handle here, and I feel excited to try a larger dose next week. My experience started at 7 30 PM, and I came down between 12 and 12 30 with a very euphoric feeling and a huge smile on my face for like 20 min.

Purging: As I mentioned earlier, there was a false purge about an hour into this. There was one more false purge, and then at the 3 hr mark, I had a true purge. As I said, I'm not one to glorify or look forward to the purge. But this purge was almost ecstatic, and I was learning what it was like to be embodied again. I also got the sense of worship, like I was worshipping the plants, prostrate, humbled...I even felt like I was a primal man--living many thousands of years ago.

My friend took his the next day around 5 30 PM. He reported visuals within 20 min of imbibing the MHRB. Visuals that were stronger than mine, for example: He noticed a green light that was coming from the back of my computer tower. He looked at it, and it became a snake eye, peering out into the room. He saw the head of the snake stretch out of the computer tower and look at him. Then it changed to a fox, like an anime type of fox, gazing at the room in general and then at him. He also said that the bed and various furniture in the room looked as if it was breathing and flexing/warping. He saw faces almost everywhere, for instance, the creases of the blankets created the visual of many faces.

By 45 min he had to seat himself next to the bucket. He was getting cold so he wrapped himself in a blanket and remained there for the next 5 hours. He had trouble keeping his eyes open, and when open he couldn't focus on anything, much was blurry. His mind likewise couldn't focus on any thought more than 3 seconds. He remained in this confused state for the remainder of the journey, which for him ended about 11 or 11 30 PM. He's 5'10 and 170 lbs (for reference) and took the same dose as I had the night before.

He never purged but had waves of nausea strong enough for him to reconsider if he wants to try this again at a higher dose. He took 5 drops lemon essential oil, sublingual, 10 min prior to taking the syrian rue, and 10 min prior to taking the MHRB. At first, he was telling me to give him the 10g shot of MHRB because he wanted to get to hyperspace or at least guarantee that getting sick would be "worth it". I told him he doesn't know what he's talking about and to not make the same mistake we did with the traditional aya. I gave him, as I said, exactly the dose I took before. He is now "scared" about a higher dose or doing this ever again.
 

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Legarto Rey
#2 Posted : 4/28/2019 9:40:17 PM
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Hi GusF,
TLDR, MHRB after adequate RIMA can be wholesome.
Hope your adventure was useful!

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DancinDog
#3 Posted : 4/29/2019 11:47:07 PM

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