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DMT Fumarate from D-Limonene - NO FASW EVAP Options
 
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#21 Posted : 12/8/2009 1:12:56 PM

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Does anyone have an idea of what 91% IPA would do if replacing 99% IPA in this tek? Just curious, SWIM doesn't like adding anhydrous magnesium salt to 91% IPA.
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#22 Posted : 12/8/2009 2:15:01 PM

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why not drying with sodium carbonate then?
 
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#23 Posted : 12/8/2009 2:30:04 PM

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endlessness wrote:
why not drying with sodium carbonate then?


Maybe it's an idea to make a little tek out of this type of (IPA) drying?


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#24 Posted : 12/8/2009 3:43:25 PM

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I tried out a method from jorkest's thread on IPA drying. I used THP to run the 91% IPA over anhydrous epson salts. Is there any way to test for water in the IPA?
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#25 Posted : 12/8/2009 4:48:20 PM

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Madcapv2 wrote:
I tried out a method from jorkest's thread on IPA drying. I used THP to run the 91% IPA over anhydrous epson salts. Is there any way to test for water in the IPA?


Table salt? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_alcohol#Chemistry
 
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#26 Posted : 12/8/2009 8:31:36 PM

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im so glad you enjoyed your trip Smile
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#27 Posted : 12/8/2009 11:14:03 PM

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Is there any way to test for water in the IPA?


this alcohol meter works for ethanol and methanol, not sure about ipa:

http://www.drozhdi-vinok...ts/alcoholmeter_100.html

a bit spendy thoWink
ive used sodium sulfate to dry ipa. when it is wet, it all clumps into chunky crystals, when dry it is like salt.

btw, does anyone think 200proof ethanol would work instead of ipa? it is less toxic, and i can distill it myselfVery happy
 
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Edit; tell SWIY that any IPA that was used to wash the fumarates should not be thrown away! it most certainly carries actives (a bit of dmt fumarate and maybe more of the other alkaloids, whose fumarate salts have unknown solubility in IPA).

Use the wash-IPA to make more FASI!


If IPA washes are done, it is definitely taking away some of the actives. If you can remember in the original tek that the aliens did IPA washes on the fumerates which was effective in getting rid any excess limo smell but the IPA that it was washed with was kind of a reddish brown color. The alien theorized that the washes were perhaps taking away some of the jungle judging by the fact that the experiences were different compared to the most recent tek he did where no washes were done, and the fact that when no washes are done the final freebase is more honey like and hardens when mixed, compared to forming crystals like the aliens' pics in the other tek.

The alien thinks that when you try to freebase this washed stuff it should form nice white crystals but not have as many of the other alkaloids.

The problem seems to be that with just decanting or pouring off the limo, there is not yet a way to get rid of excess limo that is sticking to the fumerates without washing them.

Although in the alien's experience, a little bit of limo seems way less toxic than some stuff he's tried that's extracted with naptha or bestine.


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#30 Posted : 12/10/2009 9:02:05 AM

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When SWIM performs this method of salting, he will dry the IPA w/ anhydrous magnesium sulfate in THP prior to making FASIPA, and he'll wash the precips once with anhydrous IPA and purify/rextal with water; then he'll wash the limonene/IPA with water, combine it with the IPA wash, and evap that to see what's left behind besides fumaric acid.
 
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#31 Posted : 12/10/2009 12:43:43 PM

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Traveler, when does he get his 'chem' badge?

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You got a point there, consider it done. Pleased


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#32 Posted : 12/10/2009 11:39:08 PM

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jasons741 wrote:

Traveler, when does he get his 'chem' badge?

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You got a point there, consider it done. Pleased


Kind regards,

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#33 Posted : 12/11/2009 4:06:26 AM

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ok so....here is an update...the gooo that precipitated out was dried...and it crystallized..but i wanted to try something...so i got some IPA boiling and put in the goopy dmt fumarate...it melted and then got absorbed into the IPA...which i then cooled down...and put in the fridge for over two days...here are some pictures Very happy

PINK dmt fumarate!!

BTW...that pile of pink dmt fumarate is 3.12g and the light yellow dmt fumarate i got 3.82g. so thtas almost 7g of dmt fumarate...i still have pulls soaking which im expecting quite a bit from...and this is from 360g of bark...which is getting damn near close 1.5%(7000 x 0.76 = 5320 ............ 360 x 0.015 = 5.4)
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#34 Posted : 12/11/2009 6:08:39 AM
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So the pink fumarate has more "jungle" alks?
 
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#35 Posted : 12/11/2009 2:50:24 PM

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i really have no idea...that is what im guessing anyway...the IPA that the stuff was crystallizing in turned like a reddish color...and after pouring it off the crystals...it has a nice almost orange red color to it...but very light...so im going to evaporate it and see what i get
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#36 Posted : 12/11/2009 11:17:11 PM

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Is it possible to separate the limo from the IPA after doing the extraction so that the limo could be re-used?
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#37 Posted : 12/11/2009 11:31:08 PM

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narmz wrote:
Is it possible to separate the limo from the IPA after doing the extraction so that the limo could be re-used?

Of course; just mix the limo:IPA with plenty of water and shake. The IPA will dissolve in the water and limo will float on the top. Repeat the water washing and ready to go.

(SWIM has never done this with limo:IPA, but this is how he's done it in the past with DCM:methanol and xylene:acetone in the past)



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#38 Posted : 12/12/2009 3:10:59 AM

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Infundibulum wrote:
narmz wrote:
Is it possible to separate the limo from the IPA after doing the extraction so that the limo could be re-used?

Of course; just mix the limo:IPA with plenty of water and shake. The IPA will dissolve in the water and limo will float on the top. Repeat the water washing and ready to go.

(SWIM has never done this with limo:IPA, but this is how he's done it in the past with DCM:methanol and xylene:acetone in the past)




SWIM also has not tried that with d-limonene and IPA but I'm pretty sure it will work.
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#39 Posted : 12/12/2009 10:40:38 AM

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thats some lovely elefant spice you got there Smile

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#40 Posted : 12/12/2009 11:27:20 AM

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indeed...the elefant loves dancing to pink spice
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