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Noflers
#1 Posted : 3/4/2019 5:38:50 PM
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I mentioned before that
i would like start doing a new TEK.
The max ion tex to be exact.

But here's the thing. I did the max ion
on four of my batches max ion tek.

Well, it turns out the separation of the
solvent is really hard to get out without
pulling with filters, etc.

So for my last two batches I'm going back to
q21's vinegar/lime tek. This method might take
a little to get everything. But the ease
of use q21'2 tex is basically a no brainer.

If anyone has idea, please let me know thanks!
 

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Noflers
#2 Posted : 3/4/2019 9:25:47 PM
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I should also mention that I did the freeze/thaw
cycle three times with 300mL DI water. Before
evaporating much of the liquid I added the
vinegar/lime like in the normal Q21 TEK.

With see after final yields if it was worth it.
 
ducdevil
#3 Posted : 3/5/2019 4:24:41 AM

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first off, i have to say
there is really...truly no way
to express my pleasure
that you've written this in measure

yet with all good verse
my mind's in reverse
searching for meaning and a way,
i have no idea what you're trying to say.

but i enjoyed your patter...
perhaps, try iambic pentameter
 
AcaciaConfusedYah
#4 Posted : 3/5/2019 2:21:31 PM

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Just trying to compare results? There are ups and downs of both. Yeah, wet teks can be hard to get the last few little bits of solvent... but if that bothered you about a wet tek, then prepare to be bothered by the loss of solvent that occurs in a drytek.

The bark paste will absorb some of the solvent. The dry teks have their benefits - usually considered "food safe" if the solvent choice is D-limonene. I've played around with dryteks for a while, but eventually went back to a wet tek. It's good to explore and experiment, but I found a method that works really well. (For me). Here's the link - no, it's nothing new or fancy - it was a documented experiment to determine whether the natural tannic acid and heat would be sufficient for acidifying the bark to aid in the lysing process. Once the mix had reached the desirable low pH, I titrated a solution of sodium hydroxide to discover the "minimum" amount needed in order to maintain a pH of >13. This is the Low lye approach (should I call it the "Lye-Low Approach?" ) Big grin

Lol, ducdevil. I've noticed that a few people have been writing posts in poetic(?) format. Maybe it's a new thing on the social media? I'm not too sure. It does make it a little difficult to read, but if you read the "poem" in a non-poetic fashion, then it's just sentences. I'll translate Wink

Quote:

I mentioned before that i would like to start doing a new TEK. The max ion tex to be exact. But here's the thing. I did the max ion on four of my batches max ion tek.

Well, it turns out the separation of the solvent is really hard to get out without pulling with filters, etc. So for my last two batches I'm going back to q21's vinegar/lime tek. This method might take a little to get everything. But the ease of use q21'2 tex is basically a no brainer.

If anyone has idea, please let me know thanks!


(P.S. I should also mention that I did the freeze/thaw cycle three times with 300mL DI water. Before evaporating much of the liquid I added the vinegar/lime like in the normal Q21 TEK. We'll see, after final yields [have been documented] , if it was worth it.)


👍🏼 ok, translated and adjusted (slightly). The yellow text indicates that I added something that is important for comparing results.

And, idea: maybe use a seperatory funnel and a solvent (like dichloromethane) that is more dense than water. This makes separation of the organic and aqueous layers much easier.


Ok fine.

If you're feeling hell-bent, to retrieve all the solvent: consider it a payment, some things just can't circumvent.

But if you keep on trying, you may find that drying, often feels like you're prying, for something that's hiding.

If you decide to wait, and patiently separate; then the collection rate, doesn't really differentiate.

I will still implore: continue to explore; I wouldn't shut the door - experiment some, before.

If you have the right glass, from a laboratory with class, then the time will pass - and it's less pain-in-the-ass.




Lol, that's the extent of my desire to communicate in poetic verse, for now. Yeah, yeah, it's not super creative, but it rhymes!

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ACY
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downwardsfromzero
#5 Posted : 3/5/2019 2:37:21 PM

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There was a young man at the Nexus
who with poetic teks did perplex us
to find out if Max Ion
was as good as a dry 'un
either way DMT still just wrecks us




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― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
 
 
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