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MHRB and ACRB-huasca blends and Vitamin C question? Options
 
sousa
#1 Posted : 3/4/2019 10:23:04 PM

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I made a successful batch of each one using the 3x3 hour cooks. Then I reduced to about 1 liter and added in some B. Caapi 30:1 resin (150g with the Mimosa and 175g with the Acacia. The odd thing, and I am new to this is the range of dosage, and an unexpected reaction with vitamin C or citrus in general.
The initial dosage has been from 15 to 20ml. The second dose about an hour later anywhere from 5 to 15ml (people tend to have a good accurate sense of the number by then).
The brews are now over a month (almost two) old. The dosage hasn't really change much, but it seems it has got to be irregular about showing up so to speak.
A female friend that had went in with 20ml, then the second dose of only 5ml had a very powerful experience the first time she tried the Mimosa tea. The second time (about 5 weeks later with the same brew), she took 20ml and felt nothing after an hour, then sort of giving up had a chunk of an orange to eat. It was on her like a freight train in 10 minutes, and she never even had a 2nd dose.
Then a few more people that were also reporting it to be a bit sluggish to show up experimented with eating orange pieces and lemon pieces. They launched into very powerful experiences.
So,...my question;
What is this interaction with citrus or vitamin C? There seems to be a profund effect generated when it is added into things.
Is ph level somehow playing a major role here that I need to understand?
I would add also that I did not moniter ph levels while brewing at all. I simply added 60ml of white vinegar to 3l of distilled water and simmered 3 hours x 3 times.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
 

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ShamensStamen
#2 Posted : 3/5/2019 12:16:49 AM
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Probably just food getting the digestion going. Happened to me a few times when i thought the experiences were duds and then i ate my dinner (no citrus) and it hit me like a freight train. As far as i know there's not really any interactions between vitamin C and Psychedelics, i mean maybe but i haven't really tested it out yet, but i do know that some of the terpenes found in citrus fruits can alter or contribute to the Psychedelic experience but i've mainly used terpenes in the form of essential oils like orange or lemon essential oil, whereas there may not be nearly as much in a few fruit pieces.
 
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#3 Posted : 3/5/2019 1:00:03 AM

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Yeah, I suppose it could be that simple. I always tell everyone to eat light for days leading up to "the day". Then that morning just have some fruit or a very sensibly light breakfast, and the rest of the day is treated almost as a water fast. I suppose it could be that the digestive system is just running somewhat slow because of all of that.
I got some ph strips that can be dipped while cooking in the future. The monitor I have now can't be used when the water gets very hot. It will be interesting to see if a sustained 3.5-3.8 ph has any effects.
I'm not complaining. The brews are amazing, but it is a curious thing how the fruit has seemed to almost engage it somehow.
 
sousa
#4 Posted : 3/5/2019 1:02:37 AM

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...I'm also considering using a citrus juice to establish the ph instead of vinegar in the future to see if that changes anything.
 
 
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