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Spock's Brain
#1 Posted : 12/4/2009 9:30:52 PM

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I've been on a new health plan for the last 3 weeks as follows:

Flaxseed oil daily blended with no-fat cottage cheese in a blender.
Or, with no fat plain yoghurt.

No other animal foods of any kind: No meat, cheese, dairy, etc...
No processed food of any kind: No bread, crackers, cake, pasta, etc...
Only Oil combination and:
Whole grain cereals: Brown rice, oatmeal, barley, etc....
Organic raw salad: Romaine, Kale, Spinich, sprouts, etc...
Steamed and raw vegetables such as: Potatoes, carrots, broccolli, brussels, Parsnips, Yams, etc...
Moderate fruit intake: apples, pears.
Miso soup.
everything self cooked and prepared & nothing else, no deviations.

results after 3 weeks:
Feel totally relaxed and well all the time.
Skin above finger nail cuticle that used to peel back in strips and bleed healed.
Gums tighter and no more slight bleeding upon brushing.
zits going away
Lower digestion (colon) that was feeling doomed starting to relax and feel better.
Skin is getting soft and having a shiny gleam.
Feeling younger.
Easily walk by the vending machine or out of the convenience store empty handed, loosing desire for commercial food products.

When I first started this my digestive system was like "Holy Shit!!!!" and it basically stopped moving, but now it's started again and my poop is easy to expel and is like what an animals would look like. (maybe you didn't want to know that part.)

Will follow up report if interested.

Here's the link that explains the eating oil plan if interested:
http://cancertutor.com/Cancer/Budwig.html
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#2 Posted : 12/5/2009 12:10:30 AM

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Haha ya it's a bit of a shock at first how everything slows down..sure sign that the digestive tract is healing..and absorbing nutrients properly again.

Good for you for wanting to be healthy!

I use flax oil and seed as well but I am lactose intolerant so I mix it with coconut milk.

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#3 Posted : 12/5/2009 3:26:19 AM

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fractal enchantment wrote:
Haha ya it's a bit of a shock at first how everything slows down..sure sign that the digestive tract is healing..and absorbing nutrients properly again.


that opinion about the symptom, if true would be good news!!!

another good thing about my plan is beer is still allowed since it's a natural grain and fermented product. so i continue, might increase just to be on the safe side.
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#4 Posted : 12/5/2009 4:19:12 AM

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When you switch right over to a healthy, organic dtox diet like that, old toxins that are stored in deeper tissues get released..since they are not comming back into the system anymore..as this happens you geta toxic overlaod symptom..which can manifest as many things such as headaches, fatigueetc..there are only a few ways for you to purge those toxins..sweating is one..another is digestion..all those toxins make their way to the colon and slow everything down at first..which puts some people off..but it is just a temporary thing..part of purging..
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#5 Posted : 12/5/2009 4:33:02 AM
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You will start to get ill on that diet if you don't protein combine. I doubt you're getting enough of a full protein mix from the cottage cream/yoghurt alone. You need to balance your wholegrains (which contain some types of protein more than others) with beans, lentils, nuts and seeds (which contain more of the other types missing from grains). Check out the Vegetarian Society for more info.

Otherwise the diet looks good, good luck and I hope the improvements continue. When I went veggie, my acne disappeared and I felt calmer for the first 6 months. Unfortunately I got unhealthy in the year afterwards despite a textbook diet, I guess my body just couldn't hack it, but that's just me, you might be fine.
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#6 Posted : 12/5/2009 5:09:03 AM

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Yeah protein is one thing you will need...I was vegetarian for about 2 years becasue I had a gf that convinced me but I started to waste away and my doctor told me that I need at least some fish for my bloodtype..

If I were you I would add hemp seed powder to that flax oil and yogurt every day..and some hemp at night as well...lots of vegetarian eat soy..but really soy is not that good for you..humans dont digest it properly until it is processed..better to have nuts and fish..but dont eat the same fish and same nuts every day..you should rotate..sprouted hemp hearts are good as well..

Also it is best to eat any carbohydrates with a protein..it helps to stabalize the blood sugar from the carbs..
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#7 Posted : 12/5/2009 3:16:56 PM

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yeh, I plan on eating some nuts & seeds & beans also. I forgot to mention that. thanks fractal and ohayoco. your knowledge of the detoxification is far exemplary compared to common knowledge. I might eat some fish someday, but I don't have an immediate plan for that. As far as hemp products I'd prefer just to smoke the dried flower of the plant, from the more exemplary strains, but my current career choice frowns upon that with pesky periodic testing. Also I think excess of soy is something to avoid also.

what are "sprouted hemp hearts?"
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#8 Posted : 12/18/2009 2:41:20 PM

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my pants are starting to fall off
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#9 Posted : 12/18/2009 4:41:02 PM

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"what are "sprouted hemp hearts?"

like germinated hemp seeds..they are good..better for you than plain hemp seeds.
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#10 Posted : 12/18/2009 6:39:52 PM

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With utmost respect, I have to step in and say protein combinations and requirements are a myth (I used to be sold on it, too, but there is a lot of amazing evidence out there that suggests otherwise). As long as you are meeting your calories for the day, it is impossible to lack any protein.

I will use the lego analogy. Cool The body builds proteins from free amino acids.

When we eat complete proteins--in red meat, in nuts, seeds, lenitls, or whatever, it is like eating entire lego creations: castles, cars, rocketships, and houses. The body must deconstruct the proteins into free aminos (and depending on the kind of protein, cooking method, amount of heat, oils, etc., the proteins can become damaged, toxic and useless): so, imagine, it's like breaking down all these different lego creations, and then sorting them by piece and color. THEN, the body takes these newly sorted free aminos and builds what it needs. This is an extremely energy-expensive endeavour.

Eating simple, fresh, raw plant foods, like fruits, greens, veggies, and sprouts, while not on paper "loaded with protein!" in a traditional sense, will give your body huge servings of free aminos, that are ready to be instantly circulated and utilized in whatever protein construction the body needs. Eating these foods is like getting brand new lego sets that are already sorted--effortless. Sprouts are STUPIDLY rich with nutrition! Think about GORILLAS... Cool

I spent three months on basically my deathbed, unable to eat with acute colitis, unable to move, anemic from serious hemorrhaging, saw a ton of doctors and all the drugs they gave me made me worse. As a last ditch effort, I switched to a raw plant food diet, and literally was back on my feet in two weeks. It was the most amazing thing I have ever experienced. Years later, even compared to before when I was sick, I look and feel so much better. The whites of my eyes are bright, my skin is clear, my cellulite disappeared, I have tons of energy and don't get sick.

Another friend of mine who was overweight went 75% or so raw, still eating some cooked grains. He ate as much as he wanted, and dropped 80 pounds in 6 months. It's really cool... at first I felt extremely weird doing it, but as I networked and met more people who were doing the same thing, incredible healing stories are all around, disappearing lupus, tumors, you name it.

There are also record-holding high-performance athletes who eat a similiar diet (raw + "no protein" in the traditional sense) and EXCEL. If you are curious, look up Tim Van Orden on YouTube. He's a runner in his 40s, and outperforms athletes half his age, and is in amazing shape. I've met him personally (totally inspiring guy).

Anyway, lots of the magic in detox diets not only comes from the amazing whole foods you START eating, but from getting rid of the processed and refined foods that you are no longer eating, too. Any increased percentage, whether it is 50%, 70%, or 95% of fresh foods in the diet will also help with digestion immensely. I think it is better from a standpoint of sanity not to focus on being perfect, just to focus on all the good things you choose. =) And, I love learning more and more about how the body is so amazing and derives nourishment in so many different ways!

Spock... sounds great! I am happy to hear you are feeling well. If you feel like doing anything else, another thing that makes a lot of people feel great is going gluten-free.

I'm also not writing anything here to preach, or to say anyone has to do things a certain way, just sharing some of my experiences that I thought were relevant! There are many roads that lead to Rome. Everyone has to listen to his own body and decide what works best. A general increase of freshness and general decrease in packaged things, though, seems to an overlapping theme in a lot of different approaches, raw, bloodtype, or whatever.
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#11 Posted : 12/18/2009 7:00:03 PM

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The problems are that it gets hard to get enough b12..eating greens and sprouts doesn't help with this..there are b12 analogues that actaully block the uptake of b12 in alot of greens and sprouts that vegetarians eat thinking they are getting the b12 when in reality they are not.

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#12 Posted : 12/19/2009 3:50:42 AM

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There is also evidence that suggests with a long enough time on a mucous-free diet, the body has everything it needs to synthesize B12 in the gut, and does.

There are very specific symptoms of lacking B12, so obviously, it would be best to listen to the body and see how you are feeling. Smile I've spoken with people who have found that stress negatively impacts B12 levels.

I am equally fascinated by all the things we are only beginning to learn and understand. I wonder what "The Food Guide" will be in 25 years?
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#13 Posted : 12/19/2009 10:53:37 AM

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ms manic there are amino acids that your body cannot make on its own. you need to get them from your diet. telling people otherwise is setting them up for nutrient deficiencies. your lego analogy doesn't explain biochemistry.

also where do you guys get the idea that these diets "remove toxins" from your body? what toxins? what mechanism do they remove them?

i think its great to eat less meat and eat more fruits and vegetables in general. this is obviously good for health. but does it really have anything to do with "removing toxins". This is such a vague claim and i see it all the time on diet fad websites. but they never say what it means how it works or what toxins are being removed. why? because their theories are usually total made up garbage.

i also think this raw food idea is totally over played. the only advantage to eating raw food is that you are not eating all the unhealthy things that go along with cooking (saturated fats etc). there is no advantage to eating raw food as opposed to healthy cooked food and the vast majority of claims by raw food enthuists are completely wrong when looked at from a biochemical point of view. many of their claims are not true.

for example: "eating raw food helps you digest better because the natural enzymes in the plant help break down the food". this is totally wrong. the pH of your gut destroys all those enzymes anyway so it doesn't matter if they were cooked or not. also this anti mucous stuff. what the heck? where did some genius come up with that pile of nonsense? mucous is essential for healthy body and digestive system. without it acids in your stomach would eat away at it. your eyes wouldn't function etc.

plus when looked at from an environmental point of view having raw fresh food available all year round is unpractical and requires large scale shipping around the globe. being able to store and preserve food is what helps feed 6 billion people around the world.

sure there are people whose health has totally turned around from changing their diet to raw food. but odds are there was just one allergen or pollutant in their old diet that was causing the problem. switching to raw food was a way to get over that condition. my girlfriend was allergic to dairy when she was small. so her parents switched her to a fresh fruit diet only for a few months. now she can eat all the dairy she wants. it was just an allergy that was fixed by temporarily removing it.

 
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everything looks good excetp....THE MISO!!!

if you are using harmalas or any other MAOI's, miso is a huge "to be avoided" food. no fermented or cultured foods while MAOI's are present in the body. very hard on the heart.

otherwise, it looks like you have a nice raw/macrobiotic diet going on....if it's working for you and you're feeling good- STICK WITH IT!

congratulations on taking charge of your physical well-being. nothing but good will come of it! Very happy

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#15 Posted : 12/19/2009 5:28:14 PM

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"also where do you guys get the idea that these diets "remove toxins" from your body? what toxins? what mechanism do they remove them?"

What?..the toxins are usually allergens that build up from eating the same foods over and over..sensitivities develope and alot of the time yeast goes along with it. Then there are all the toxins present in alot of the foods that we eat..

When you cut out those foods all the toxins rooted in the deeper tissues make their way to the surface and alot of it gets concentrated in the colon and people get constipation when they first start these diets..

If you are one a diet like they they usually suggest that you drink LOTS of water every day to keep the body flushing itself..and take detox supplements like bentonite clay etc..

This is not a myth I went through this. I dont care what any doctor or anyone says..NOTHING will convince me otherwise. I went through it and saw and FELT the changes as I went through the diet.
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#16 Posted : 12/19/2009 6:28:01 PM

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After I started eating a super-clean diet, in the beginning, I noticed an itch in my nose. There was a day where my nose just wouldn't stop itching.

Later that night, HUGE gobs of blue and purple eyeliner that I had been wearing for years started coming out of my nose. Shocked

I guess when I say toxins, I mean all the poisonous environmental crap that the body can't break down, and stores inside because it is too busy otherwise to remove.

(I stopped wearing makeup forever after that. Razz )

Burnt, there is also leukocytosis. When people eat cooked food, the body sends an immune response and white blood cells help in the digestion of food. The only time this doesn't happen is when a person eats completely raw food. If 80% of the immune system lives in the gut, this becomes very significant in terms of body maintenance, especially in the case of an ill person. It's not raw food that actually cures diseases, it's just that raw food is low-impact enough to allow the body to more efficiently heal itself.

Edit: Seaweeds are a good source of B12, I just remembered!

Also, it's definitely something I would have never thought twice about, myself, until I was in a position where I was doing anything to just get my life back. The swiftness of the healing I experienced was incredible, so I do think it's worth trying to understand why. Especially because the same things happen to a lot of people! Even if it isn't "enzymes" (I know that part of the theory gets debated), there is definitely *something* at work. The proof is in the experience. It's the same thing with any kind of detox--there is definitely a core underlying phenomenon that warrants investigation. Cool

Now, I can eat some steamed veggies or a nice soup/stew without any problems (still very clean and whole foodsy), but fried/heated oils make me ill. So there is something to altering the structure of food before we eat it, temperatures involved... chemistry. Shocked

I also always prefer cooked Ayahuasca, though. Razz
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#17 Posted : 12/19/2009 6:47:16 PM
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Your body can show no sign of B12 deficiency for an entire decade... then suddenly, you fall apart. As for raw food... if our ancestors could survive better this way, wouldn't we see it happen more often in tribal societies?

If you're going to publicly question vegetarian/vegan societies' advice on protein combining, I think it would be responsible to add a big disclaimer at the end of your anecdote. Your health is too important to gamble on unproven fads and heresay. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just concerned for others who may follow your advice and get ill because of it. Can I ask, how many years have you been on your current diet?
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#18 Posted : 12/19/2009 7:03:29 PM

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A little over two years.

I also think cooking food was the sheer ingenuity of our ancestors that has allowed us to survive, in many climates.

I will find some more informational links to share, about protein, etc. Smile

At the beginning of my first post, I did say that I was only sharing my personal experiences that I felt were relevant to the topic, and people should find what works best for them.
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#19 Posted : 12/19/2009 7:16:24 PM

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I was boarderline anemic and tested very low b12 levels..I had IBD, leaky gut..all kinds of food sensitivities and constant sinus infections..

and a lifelong allergy to dariy and beef that all apothic doctors couldn't pick up with their pointless skin prick allergy tests..i have experiencd first hand the incompetance of allopathic doctors when it comes to certain aread..

My body was loaded with toxins..and this was after 2 years off of meat..my naturalpathic doctor was no quack..she was a physician first and got very sick herself and was healed through ayurvedic medicine(she is indian) and went back to school to get a degree in natural medicine and nutritional stuff..

She told me that certain people should definatily eat at least some fish..and that certain people are suited better to be full on vegeatarians..and that this depends on a persons blood type. I dont know enough to say anything either way..but when I started eating the diet she put me on I went through HELL..it was a real detox..I got sore throats..ear aches, muscle aches..I was tired and pissed off..for 2-3 weeks..but it eventuall got better..and I can tell you..when you have an inflamed colon..you definatily know when it starts getting better..you canot even comprehend what it's like until you have been there.

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#20 Posted : 12/19/2009 7:22:14 PM

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"if our ancestors could survive better this way, wouldn't we see it happen more often in tribal societies?"

This is why I think that certain people may need to eat some meat..we evolved this way.
I am norse and those people at tons of fish..I feel better when I eat some fish but not alot of it..the ammount of meat alot of people eat is rediculous..and very unhealthy. I dont eat red meat..I was eating organic turkey and chicken for a while but I am sticking back with fish maybe 2 times a week now..

Tap water is a big thing as well..I have probabily said this many times here but I think it's very important..I really think that drinking tap water was a part of my problem with IBD..the chlorine is not good for you..it's horrible actually..All my water comes from a natural sping now..sure I have to take the time to go off into the woods and collect it but it's worth it 100 times over.

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