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Odie
#1 Posted : 2/4/2019 10:06:12 AM

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Hello I hope I am posting correctly and in the right area.
I am moving forward now that I am more than comfortable with Gordo and Cybs salt teks.
I want to take the next cool/educational step forward and after re-x Learn how to grow a crystal and I have been told a few ways and want any advice I can get.

First basically I see it is another re-x with slow EVAP instead of freeze.
Is Putting it in a Glass bowl and leaving it in a dark cupboard for 2 days really a way?
Second, if the way is slow cool evaporation I need to understand this more because I'm not finding much about it other than maybe a freeze-fridge type evap mentioned.
Also I was reading that I should remove the DMT-N-Oxide prior and then told otherwise.

I'm sorry if I'm not making sense I'm only a machinist not a chemist.
I need some tips, links or any constructive criticizm if possible cuz I'm no veteran I'm newb.

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rewindtothestart
#2 Posted : 2/4/2019 1:36:21 PM

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You're on the right track. The more pure the DMT, the better looking crystals. Removing the DMT oxide will yield a better crystal, but it's not absolutely required. You don't want to start with goo though, or at least clean it up to a good powder. I did an experiment a while back and challenged myself to grow a giant crystal cluster. I wanted it to be clear/white, and to to see if I could get those clear shards. I must have done at least 5 re-x attempts until it was pure enough. The first two would have been FASA, then naphtha, then heptane with a very slow evap. If you add a small crystal, even as small as a grain of sand, it will really help kick things off. Heptane really gives you the most beautiful crystals. If it's not available, you can do the same thing with naphtha or any other solvent, but it won't be as pure/clear/white. The speed of evaporation will control how big the crystal grows, and how good the molecules fit into place. If you want a clear shard, you need to evaporate very slowly - perhaps 200-300ml over the course of a month or more. I started with fully saturated heptane, but I think the crystal would have been even larger/more perfect if I added a bit more heptane to slow the growth even more. You know the solvent is saturated when a slight air flow causes the DMT to crash out in a milky color. Here's a pic of my best attempt:



 
Odie
#3 Posted : 2/4/2019 2:54:09 PM

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Wow very cool picture. That's a large project for a month of evap. Is there a Tek u know or any forum link that talks about how to slowly EVAP ? Or is there basically multiple ways just depending on amount of time you willing to put into it in order to make bigger crystals?

Either way I really appreciate the info and that crystal you made is Thumbs up

Thanks alot
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rewindtothestart
#4 Posted : 2/5/2019 12:22:06 AM

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Thanks Odie! Big grin I'm not aware of a specific tek written, but you can find a wealth of information in previous threads if you google "growing large crystals dmt nexus".

As long as you know how to clean your spice, and have an understanding of how to slow the evaporation process, the process is pretty simple. The seed crystal and working with quality solvents really helps. Heat and airflow increase evaporation. So if you crystalize in a cooler temperature, it's going to evaporate slower. You can cover the evaporation plate with seran wrap or foil, and poke a few holes. So right now, my garage is around 45-50 degrees all day long. It would be an ideal time to grow large crystals, but it would take a very long time to evaporate. Heptane is pretty volatile, but you would be amazed how slowly it evaporates with even multiple holes in the cover. I guess the most important thing is patience.

There are tricks though, and you'll learn along the way. For instance, the bottom layer of that crystal is more orangish color, but the powdered DMT going into it was extremely pure and white. I observed that the first DMT to crash out of the warmed and saturated heptane was actually a liquid that crystallized as it cooled. I think I could prevent this in the future by just saturating it at room temperature, and adding a bit more heptane so the initial process starts off slower.
 
Odie
#5 Posted : 2/5/2019 12:02:52 PM

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So very cool of you to help me with some information on this.

I will regardless of a success or failure update and hopefully let u know how it goes.

Nice people like you are rare. thanks alot!
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