I never said it was relevant to drugs. Drugs are not an important issue. If people cannot buy drugs legally, they are not enslaved, beaten, killed, etc. So using violence in this case is overkill. When violence is needed, it's needed. But when you simply want to change some very minor lifestyle laws like drug use laws, resorting to violence is going to make you look bad, very bad, in the eyes of others. How can one justify violence in this case when no one is being harmed by drugs being illegal?

Well yeah that's my point. I guess with the thread being about LSD...

never mind.

This thread has gone very off topic. I think further discussion should be moved to chat/other threads.


I have people telling me all the time that they can get me some acid. However NOBODY EVERY COMES THROUGH. I just want some good acid... hell, if one of those people actually comes through I plan to toss them a significant amount of the deemsters in good faith.

I hear psytrance shows/festivals are a good place to go looking. Anyone here into that stuff that can point me in the right direction?

That was exactly my point. Any call for violence in this matter is absurd and counterproductive.

I must say though, that a violent uproar in tibet or xinjang, would be counterproductive as well. China is never going to let those regions become independant.
The maximum result any separatist movement can reach is immense bloodshed.
If there would have been any realistic option for separation of tibet, the dalai-lama would support that option.
Many westerners are way too naive, when it comes to supporting all kinds of liberation movements.

revolution has a romantic side that appeals to many people, but in reality it often is not so nice as it appears to be at first.
The many communist governments are a good example of this and the many failed revolutions (often against these same revolutionary governments) are an example of this as well.

Revolution against a government like that of saddam hussein, was never a realistic otion and also in iran, a violent revolution will never succeed unless there are powers within the government itself that also support change.

In all those cases, it is counterproductive.
All kurds, palestinians, uygur's, cheznians and tibetans have become or will become a target for extreme and brutal violence. And in the end nothing changes.

SWIM has been buying bud off this new guy that he's known for close to 10-11 months. One day on a budd pickup, he had mentioned to me "Hey a friend of mine knows a chemist thats synthing LSD right now and he just sold me a sheet." SWIM was dumbfounded because it's been close to 2 years since SWIMs past LSD experiences during the winter months. SWIM used to get the white fluff and lavender frequently.

Anyways, being very skeptical of SWIMs new find SWIM decided to purchase a 5 strip. Very small squares. Acouple different designs.

Two nights back SWIM and his good friend each took 1 hit just to gauge the experience. SWIM took his an hour prior to his friend coming over. SWIM strapped on the headphones and blasted his playlist of shpongle. Near the hour mark SWIM started to feel strong stimulation in his legs. Like a massive amount of energy running through his legs...slowly working up to his upper body. Felt really good. SWIMs senses (smell & taste) changed quite a bit, the air smelled quite different and SWIM picked up what seemed to be every aroma of his moms bean soup that was simmering (mind you my door to the computer room was closed). The computer screen started to twist just ever' so slightly. SWIM could hear the different tones n' levels in the music and appreciated it much more than he normally would! SWIM got a text from his friend saying he was here. SWIM proceeded to walk outside, and as soon as SWIM stepped out to grret his friend looked up at the clouds and they were twisting and moving very fast....sooo damn beautiful with the moon!!!! SWIM was almost drooling at the stimulation/visuals. The grass had this soft & gentle wave to it. The sky was around 3 or so colors but all drastic shades of the same color.

Trees twisted and fluxed as if by the wind, but evrything outside was dead silent. SWIM had the biggest smile of his life. Pure bliss, pure delight in his being!! And nearing the end of the night SWIM and his friend talked quite abit about science, philosophy and the like while lying on the ground looking at the MULTITUDE of very crisp/bright stars that canvassed the sky. And for one final idea, SWIM decided while lying on the ground to just dead stare at an area of the clouds right above the fluxing tree tops without flinching. The cloudsn'sky seemed to mesh in with the trees and everything else slightly visible in SWIMs periphial meshed along with it creating this ONE infinite energetic/electric state of being. All was one! All in all SWIM didnt get much sleep and the next day had reminents of mental stimulation with nearly no body ache from the highly stimulating orgasm that took over SWIM's body!

Enough rant. This night SWIM experienced had to be one of the most beautiful things ever. Hooray for LSD!!

Getting effects like that from one hit is awesome man! By the time any lsd makes it out to swims area its so watered down its not even worth it for swim.

Diethylamide is extremely easy to make, with high yeild to, from easily available over the counter things. Hydrazine is tough, but still made from easily available products. I mean it really is not that bad. Hardest part would be getting the tricky lab equipment. There are just some pieces a so-called "hobbyist" can't really explain needing.

what do you mean?

Yeah, sorry. I've learned about that since writing that post. However, some things are just impossible to obtain. Like, Sulphur Trioxide for example, SO3. If it was more easilly available, then it'd be a simple two step reaction, LSA to LSD. Just prepare the mixed anhydride and then react with a nitrogenous base.

No discussing synths on the nexus.

i only had the opportunity to do lsd once. but that was this past summer (2009) in liquid form. the guy sold it to my buddy who worked with the guy. 300 mics for $5. from what i understand it was very clean stuf, not some RC. it was the first time i used any psychedelic and i have not looked back since. that connection was lost soon after that experience, now i regret not trying it earlier as i had that connection almost a full year before i decided to try it. the guy had a full vial of it and dripped it on the paper right then and there. im 99% sure that guy is still living at the same place and still keeps a vial of acid, its just some conflict formed between him and my buddy so the connection is gone. btw this was in Orlando, FL.

Agreed. It IS out there. People enjoy it far too much to let it slip away. For SWIM, it is rather easy to obtain IF it is in fact in town. Very rare substance, and it goes quick once people realize that it is legit. East coast, large cities.

Theres a few festivals I regularly attend that always have a nice supply of L. If you know where to look its not too hard to find. Its all about being able to read people.

"You can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines."

Hell yeah !!!! More than ever !!!

Its very cool that some people are still getting LSD

I still have my single piece of blotter and am saving it for Reading festival later in the year...i really, really hope its the real deal!! There is just no-way i know of that you can actually test it out first...shame.

Peace!!

The market in my country is now flooded with medium to good to extremely good LSD, both liquid and blotters. Don't give up friends, it is out there! I advice you to get some contacts in Europe.

Sorry to be off topic but I felt it must be addressed:

Although I agree that violence gets one no where productive. How can you (ron) say that drugs being illegal doesn't harm people? Tell that to over 50% of the US prison population, and their families and children. Or the overdose victims and their families. Or all the people whom have contracted hepititis? or HIV? Or the little girl who got shot by a stray bullet in a drug related shooting. Or the guy who lost his job because he smoked marijuana on the weekend or ......the police officer who was corrupted buy drug money (fuck him anyway though!)... but the people in his jurisdiction who counted on him... Plenty are harmed by drugs being illegal more than if the drugs were legal themselves. Crime is up, prison population is up, overdose rates are up, drug related diseases are up, .... all directly attributable to prohibition.... as prior to prohibition these things were at a acceptable rate. Prohibition amplifies the dangers of drugs and creates new ones.

The point is though, that violence is not effective. It rarely has been (although there are times it is necessary). True change comes about through change in thought and ideas. People need to be made aware of the damage that drug prohibition does. How it is worse for society than all the illegal drugs combined. Many great revolutions have been non-violent, it sends a powerful message in its self.

On the LSD:

It does seem to be coming around again. I remember around 2000 around the Pickard bust how it just dried up. But there does seem to be some L around occasionally so I am told. Festivals tend to be BS, I have seen to many rip offs to ever trust someone sat a festival. It is a shame (even from the old guys ). It is usually just paper. But I guess it depends where you are in what country as Im sure there is legit L.

There is plenty of LSD in the right scenes. Being a Dead Head for many years has afforded SWIM the ability to eat LSD as much as he could ever want to. The Family he is a part of does take breaks, slows down the production, and takes various precautions, just so that everyone who does get LSD, does so as safe as possible, with this war on (people with) drugs.

He saw the huge price increase right around 2000, where it jumped 10 fold. Probably had a lot to do with the big Kansas missile silo bust, but those guys had lost much of the respect and family connections, due to some shady practices and some shady characters coming in to play. This is how they busted poor Leonard Pickard, who once was a part of the "family". Back in the 90's it was cheap enough, that no one would think of trying to pass some RC off as LSD, just to make a buck, but nowadays those RC's are so much cheaper.

The youngsters of today, don't often hold the high honor that being a part of the LSD scene affords, and they are out to get paid. Ever wonder why half the friggin' Dead lot is filled with a bunch of wannabe gangstas, wearin' their high priced gem wraps, with their flat billed hats, and LRG gear? The mentality of the younger generation is about getting paid, and partying, not spiritual enlightenment or the music. This is why when you can buy a gram of some strong RC, put it on paper, then go charge outrageous prices to unsuspecting, uninformed, youngsters who just wanna try LSD, it makes it very alluring for these materialistic youth, who've been brainwashed by TV, radio, and media in general.

Now it's not like the song (Dancin' in the Streets) which says, "It doesn't matter what you wear, just as long as you are there!" Now, it's you don't matter, unless you wear all the popular gear, look cool, and slang a little bit of every drug you can find. It's sad to see the major changes on lot over the years, but DO remember, their are some wonderful people out there, who haven't forgotten what it means to do this holy work of spreading what SWIM would consider a sacrament. The family SWIM knows, would not dare put out anything that isn't of the utmost purity, quality, and at a reasonable price, due to the laws of supply and demand.

Don't give up folks, there is GREAT, PURE LSD out there, but also, be aware of who and what you are dealing with when you do go looking for the sacrament. Good luck to everyone who deserves the wonderful experience, and SWIM imagines it will find you! Seems to happen that way for him, always. In the last 17-18 years, SWIM hasn't gone more than 2-3 months (which were by choice) without eating good LSD. Have faith, folks!!

BTW, please do not PM me or ask me to find you LSD, that's not how I roll, and you will not get a nice response from me, should you fail to take this advice. Thanks for your time!

There is some relatively decent "fluff" still happening but the distribution net at the G level is hard at the profit motive. Points for ~3K and G's for 16-20K.In all over a 1000% mark up from the first point I ever got for 250$ in 1975. Inflation, eh? Redeeming factor is it is old school family product but it seems junior has taken over sales and he ain't gonna be happy with just a pile of stash like poppa he wants to retire comfy, And have the pile of stash so is horking the masses for the love so he can do the retired person gig. Junior is a dick and poppa is in the hills so stuck with junior.At least it has made a return after the silo died. Everyone was balled up tighter than a bulls ass in fly time. Then with a conspicous bust of family product and subsequent ratting and bullshit Family has avoided this area for almost five yrs( yeah they are patient)to teach the family heads to tighten their game.
As for "where did the hippy love thang come from?". Ya'll gotta remember we were in vietnam up to our dick and sinking. It was a balancing that needed to occur to bring back some conscience to our war machine. War was not the answer so in the binary society we live in the opposite must be the answer. Simplistic thoughts during simplistic times. It was largely contributed to by the effects of large groups of people doing love together. The feeling of connectedness was entirely new and focused on as the key to peace and harmony.
SB

It's around, clean but not as strong as I'd like - easily rectified with dose. Nowhere nearly as prevelant as 20 years ago but that's Ok because it just means all of the party animals of newer generations are abusing other things. This takes the heat off of Lucy, around here at least.