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Touche Guevara
#81 Posted : 11/24/2009 5:18:08 PM
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VisualDistortion wrote:
Touche Guevara wrote:
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How hard is it to make LSD by your self?
I have 2 blotters that are supposed to be 250mic but I just don't trust it to be real LSD so they're just sitting in my drawer. I'm not eating something that could be some shit RC. But maybe I have 2 real good blotters there and I will never know Sad

It's pretty much impossible.


People severly over estimate how hard it is to make a batch of LSD. It is not even close to impossible. It takes serious dedication and a willingness to learn and understand chemistry. The chemistry isn't even that complex. Takes some coin too. Not that hard. How much room you got to grow morning glory? Not the most efficient way to make a large batch but if it just for personal consumption it is suitable. The hardest part is sourcing the needed reagents.

I'd be very interested in an account of someone producing any usable amount of LSD from morning glories that did not have a professional chemistry background and access to equipment and materials far outside the scope of the average person.
 

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#82 Posted : 11/24/2009 7:04:15 PM

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Touche Guevara wrote:
VisualDistortion wrote:
Touche Guevara wrote:
DMTripper wrote:
How hard is it to make LSD by your self?
I have 2 blotters that are supposed to be 250mic but I just don't trust it to be real LSD so they're just sitting in my drawer. I'm not eating something that could be some shit RC. But maybe I have 2 real good blotters there and I will never know Sad

It's pretty much impossible.


People severly over estimate how hard it is to make a batch of LSD. It is not even close to impossible. It takes serious dedication and a willingness to learn and understand chemistry. The chemistry isn't even that complex. Takes some coin too. Not that hard. How much room you got to grow morning glory? Not the most efficient way to make a large batch but if it just for personal consumption it is suitable. The hardest part is sourcing the needed reagents.

I'd be very interested in an account of someone producing any usable amount of LSD from morning glories that did not have a professional chemistry background and access to equipment and materials far outside the scope of the average person.


Yeah, it's next to impossible for the average guy to make LSD. SWIM has many LSD synthesis procedures at hand and all of them are IMPOSSIBLE even for SWIM because of some of the chemicals you need to obtain. You need special connections or you won’t be able to make it PERIOD.
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#83 Posted : 11/25/2009 12:00:14 AM

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It is still around in the uk. My friend looked for years but then it just popped up in abundance.



Thats prettymuch how it works!

Also, hopefully with the (relatively) new peptide synthesis, there should be fresh batches being deployed all over the world. *wink*
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#84 Posted : 11/25/2009 12:10:34 AM

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69ron wrote:
Touche Guevara wrote:
VisualDistortion wrote:
Touche Guevara wrote:
DMTripper wrote:
How hard is it to make LSD by your self?
I have 2 blotters that are supposed to be 250mic but I just don't trust it to be real LSD so they're just sitting in my drawer. I'm not eating something that could be some shit RC. But maybe I have 2 real good blotters there and I will never know Sad

It's pretty much impossible.


People severly over estimate how hard it is to make a batch of LSD. It is not even close to impossible. It takes serious dedication and a willingness to learn and understand chemistry. The chemistry isn't even that complex. Takes some coin too. Not that hard. How much room you got to grow morning glory? Not the most efficient way to make a large batch but if it just for personal consumption it is suitable. The hardest part is sourcing the needed reagents.

I'd be very interested in an account of someone producing any usable amount of LSD from morning glories that did not have a professional chemistry background and access to equipment and materials far outside the scope of the average person.


Yeah, it's next to impossible for the average guy to make LSD. SWIM has many LSD synthesis procedures at hand and all of them are IMPOSSIBLE even for SWIM because of some of the chemicals you need to obtain. You need special connections or you won’t be able to make it PERIOD.


Next to impossible, yes. Next to.
Did you see on what.cd they obtained a copy of Microsoft COFEE? just this month! no one thought it would ever be uploaded, but there it was...

Yes, All the precursors are watched and scheduled, hydrazine is fuckhard to make. Same goes for diethylamide.
But a handful of people still make acid; how could they not! - Festival culture is positively booming and old heads and keen youngers are as hungry as ever for acid.

To quote a friend of mine, who once somehow managed to get a little brown dropper bottle, somehow, "They're like vultures, just *woosh*, slap, *bludaludaludalup* "
SWIM will confirm too, they are indeed exactly like vultures.

You know its legal to obtain for research? "Medical and scientific research with LSD in humans is permitted under the 1971 UN Convention."
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#85 Posted : 11/25/2009 7:27:20 PM
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I think that within the USA, many of the nessecary reagents are being controlled to an extreme level and everybody who tries to obtain them is being screened.

LSD is still being made, but i think that it's not done inside the USA. LSD is so easy to smuggle across the border, that it wouldn't make sense manufacturing it in america.

In many european countries, the regulation of these substances isn't that tight.
Many illegal synthetics are now being manufactured in eastern europe.
 
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#86 Posted : 11/25/2009 9:02:22 PM

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soulfood wrote:
Spacehippie wrote:
It's still around if you know where to look.


Yeah, I bet they still have dodo's flying around on some planets.


Thanks for the skepticism. It is still around. And in abundance, too.
You should only have to ask 10 - 30 people at a festival or outdoor party.

I don't want people getting the idea that LSD is rare or somehow hard to find;
since as we all know, our thoughts create reality. And that is simply not
conductive to our evolution as a species, t.y

Be Thankful that it is one of the most common street drugs available!
and, a simply glorious, clean, wonderful spiritual sacrament and tool for
the exploration of self, evolution of consiousness and sanctimonious
experience.
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#87 Posted : 11/25/2009 11:14:42 PM
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shoe wrote:
soulfood wrote:
Spacehippie wrote:
It's still around if you know where to look.


Yeah, I bet they still have dodo's flying around on some planets.


Thanks for the skepticism. It is still around. And in abundance, too.
You should only have to ask 10 - 30 people at a festival or outdoor party.

I don't want people getting the idea that LSD is rare or somehow hard to find;
since as we all know, our thoughts create reality. And that is simply not
conductive to our evolution as a species, t.y

Be Thankful that it is one of the most common street drugs available!
and, a simply glorious, clean, wonderful spiritual sacrament and tool for
the exploration of self, evolution of consiousness and sanctimonious
experience.

I like to know the place where it's a common street drug.

Occasionally i meet someone who says he recently experienced a real LSD trip, so it probably is still out there. But it's a lot harder to get than 15 years ago.

RC's are everywhere these days.

The best thing is to just take LSH instead, if you want to experience what real LSD is like.
 
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#88 Posted : 11/26/2009 12:58:05 AM
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polytrip wrote:
I think that within the USA, many of the nessecary reagents are being controlled to an extreme level and everybody who tries to obtain them is being screened.

LSD is still being made, but i think that it's not done inside the USA. LSD is so easy to smuggle across the border, that it wouldn't make sense manufacturing it in america.

In many european countries, the regulation of these substances isn't that tight.
Many illegal synthetics are now being manufactured in eastern europe.

Good point. I'm sure there are plenty of people in former Soviet republics and Asian countries with little regulation that are shipping the stuff over. Sadly, it isn't going to be the same kind of folk that were making it for the love in the US 30 years ago.
 
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#89 Posted : 12/1/2009 1:42:11 AM

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69ron wrote:
Touche Guevara wrote:
VisualDistortion wrote:
Touche Guevara wrote:
DMTripper wrote:
How hard is it to make LSD by your self?
I have 2 blotters that are supposed to be 250mic but I just don't trust it to be real LSD so they're just sitting in my drawer. I'm not eating something that could be some shit RC. But maybe I have 2 real good blotters there and I will never know Sad

It's pretty much impossible.


People severly over estimate how hard it is to make a batch of LSD. It is not even close to impossible. It takes serious dedication and a willingness to learn and understand chemistry. The chemistry isn't even that complex. Takes some coin too. Not that hard. How much room you got to grow morning glory? Not the most efficient way to make a large batch but if it just for personal consumption it is suitable. The hardest part is sourcing the needed reagents.

I'd be very interested in an account of someone producing any usable amount of LSD from morning glories that did not have a professional chemistry background and access to equipment and materials far outside the scope of the average person.


Yeah, it's next to impossible for the average guy to make LSD. SWIM has many LSD synthesis procedures at hand and all of them are IMPOSSIBLE even for SWIM because of some of the chemicals you need to obtain. You need special connections or you won’t be able to make it PERIOD.


@69ron
SWIM would have thought that SWIY would have had those chemicals on hand over there. That gives SWIM little hope to ever try.
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#90 Posted : 12/1/2009 2:53:47 AM

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I heard there are places where LSD actually is being mixed into drinking water .
All you need to do is to find that special tap .
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#91 Posted : 12/1/2009 2:15:25 PM
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Same here: SWIM, in the Netherlands, has been inable to obtain good acid for like a year now. And lately he's found it increasingly difficult to find acid in the first place. His acid-contacts all seem out of supplies.

SWIM's guessing that our slavedriving-authorities have taken down some mayor european supplying acid-labs.
Bastards. It's time entheogenic people united and fought back( legally and, if need be, physically)

SWIM doesn't know about you guys, but SWIM is MORE than willing to fight and raise hell to protect and win back his individual freedom.
 
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SKA wrote:
Bastards. It's time entheogenic people united and fought back( legally and, if need be, physically)

SWIM doesn't know about you guys, but SWIM is MORE than willing to fight and raise hell to protect and win back his individual freedom.

True freedom can not be achieved by violence, no matter the circumstances. I agree that we all should pressure the government, but nothing else than research, legal pressure, and written accounts should in my mind be attempted. Anything else will work against the cause.
 
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Has anyone here tried that Lucy from the place that supplies raves?
 
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#94 Posted : 12/2/2009 1:09:56 AM

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Evening Glory wrote:
SKA wrote:
Bastards. It's time entheogenic people united and fought back( legally and, if need be, physically)

SWIM doesn't know about you guys, but SWIM is MORE than willing to fight and raise hell to protect and win back his individual freedom.

True freedom can not be achieved by violence, no matter the circumstances. I agree that we all should pressure the government, but nothing else than research, legal pressure, and written accounts should in my mind be attempted. Anything else will work against the cause.


True. There's no point fighting a law by breaking another one. What would that say about us?
 
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#95 Posted : 12/2/2009 4:57:22 PM

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Evening Glory wrote:
SKA wrote:
Bastards. It's time entheogenic people united and fought back( legally and, if need be, physically)

SWIM doesn't know about you guys, but SWIM is MORE than willing to fight and raise hell to protect and win back his individual freedom.

True freedom can not be achieved by violence, no matter the circumstances.


Oh my God, that is so not true. If you're being held captive by someone with no morals who'll kill you if you try to escape to gain freedom and you're only way out is by killing the guy, then violence is the only answer. So yes freedom is often obtained through violence. The rat that got away from the snake did so by biting the snakes face. It’s very simplistic to think that being kind to others and working non-violently is going to lead to freedom in all cases. In many cases, the powers that be will simply laugh at you.

For all you peace loving people who think things can be done peacefully, look at China’s infamous Tiananmen square incident. The government murdered the peaceful protestors.

Yeah, a lot of good flower power can do when you’re in a place like China. Unless you have the power to shake the government to their knees, you’re a dead duck if you want change.

Peace is often had at the hand of violence. That's why we have armies. That’s why mankind has always had warriors. It’s a necessary evil for human beings, and to think anything less is to be very naive.
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#96 Posted : 12/2/2009 6:16:20 PM
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Unfortunately i have to agree with this. But this principle only aplies when A-your goal is morally worth the violence, and B-when there's a chance that you can win.

This is the reason why i oppose for instance tibetan separatist movements. They can never win and thus their greatest succes can only be an immense amount of casualties.

This principle most certainly aplies to the liberation of the psychedelic movement as well: violence will not lead to anything but more repression.
 
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#97 Posted : 12/2/2009 7:12:17 PM

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I think this belief that love will conquer all is very naive. If a lion is about to eat me, and I plead with the lion, showing him what a wonderful peaceful being I am, and all that, it will still do no good. I will be dinner for the lion. But if I fight back, cut the lions face, etc., then maybe I might survive.

Where did this peaceful hippy nonsense come from anyway? All of the great civilizations that have used psychedelics legally on a regular basis were not peace loving pushover societies! The Aztecs were quite violent at times. These were warriors, conquerors, not a bunch of hippies.

Who started this hippy peace movement? Why did it start? On some levels it makes sense but on other levels it's totally ridiculous.

While I can reason peacefully with a reasonable person, and it can do great good, I cannot reason with someone like Hitler! Many tried. It did no good. Violence was the only way.
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#98 Posted : 12/2/2009 7:24:34 PM
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The allied forces knew they could win.

If someone would start commiting terror attacks on the DEA's headquarters, than i am sure that this will lead to a further criminalization of psychedelics, and finding people who use all sorts of substances and putting them behind bars is gonna be prioritized for a long time.

Violence is a bad idea if you can't win.
A lot of european resistance movements did more harm than they did good, during the war. Often innocent people where put against the wall by the nazi's as retribution. Dozens of people for a single nazi officer that got shot.
 
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#99 Posted : 12/2/2009 7:27:31 PM

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Violence is a bad idea if you can't win.
A lot of european resistance movements did more harm than they did good, during the war. Often innocent people where put against the wall by the nazi's as retribution. Dozens of people for a single nazi officer that got shot.


You never know you can win. It's always a gamble.

Well had we just protested and did nothing else it would have been HORRIBLE for the Jewish people. Just horrible. I'm glad people took up arms and stopped it. Force was required.
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#100 Posted : 12/2/2009 7:30:19 PM

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Well had we just protested and did nothing else it would have been HORRIBLE for the Jewish people. Just horrible. I'm glad people took up arms and stopped it. Force was required.


So violence to fight violence. Fair enough.

It's not relevant to the war on drugs.
 
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