Hi any tips for wise dosage for my wife who never done psychodelic ? Alot of people saying just to push her for breakthrough but I defenetly think this is bad idea any opinions

Imo, I'm not sure DMT is the introduction to psychedelics that should be used.

But I would not start with a breakthrough... No no... Starting with that is bad advice...

I thought so.. u think I should introduce her with some schrooms first or start with 5-10mg at start? Any thoughts ?

I wouldn't recommend pushing anyone into anything, ever, ESPECIALLY not a breakthrough dose of one of the most intense psychedelics known to humans.

what does your wife want to do? she should be doing her own research if she's going to take psychedelics. Please encourage her to do so so that she can have informed consent with whatever substances she chooses to put into her own body. What does she want out of the experience? why do you want to give her DMT? does she actually want the experience at all?

It's the use of the phrase "push her for breakthrough" that I don't like, this is coercive and reeks of boundary breakages.

would you like someone else to "push" you into any experience that you might not be fully prepared for?

I could totally be overreacting, in which case I apologise, but I encourage you to think very hard about what you've written and what you're trying to do.

Also, why not encourage your wife to register here and ask her own questions?

I have to agree with PlantTraveler here. So... why not just tell her what the levels of experience generally are like, and let her decide? Also, it would be really good if she did her own research.

U defenetly right buddy that's why when somebody telling me go for 50-100mg I am like naah mate nobody is ready for something like that ofc I introduced her we watched some documentaries together DMT spirit molecue vice etc I told her my own stories for sure she wants that for her social anxiety/love she said also she's very curious about that I might try with her mushrooms first (that's her own choice I would never thought she would want to try that I even asked her if she's 100% sure )

ok sorry for getting all spikey and consenty.

I guess I just think it is healthiest for anyone to do their own research about what they're going to do wrt psyches, rather than handing over responsibility to someone else, no matter how well-intentioned.

I definitely recommend mushrooms for a first psychedelic experience

Noo mate u absolutely right dunno she's absolutely not botherd to do her own research she think she know everything (and she's not) and that's very negative no respect way to do that with any kind of psychedelic the worst is she said if I am smoking she want smoke aswell very stiupid way of her thinking. I think I will just have to change her mind to not take it at all ..

Or at least before try DMT I will just take with her 1g of mushroom or something just to dip her toes (she's very curious she been reading how it's can help with social anxiety/PTSD)

well, you probably can't change her mind, in the end she has to learn her own lessons. if she wants to just dive in to DMT then the DMT will probably school her. or maybe not!

(as intimidating as DMT is, I've so far only ever had the most glowy, love-soaked experiences with it.)

sure look, what can you do except give her information, and if she's genuinely irresponsible, obv don't share substances with her

best of luck!

And as I said I am not pushing her at all it's totally her decision I didn't even mention/thought she would want to take anything with me but very not responsible from her side she's not really doing any research on her own I am not even sure if she want to take it to open her mind or just because she's curious because I am taking that I know 2 her main reasons
(Death of her mom / social anxiety) that for sure.
Don't know i am feeling if she would take something like that I will be feeling kinda responsible for that..

True or she will have a lesson to respect it next time or it will open her mind abit

That's the best option to not share it but belive me she will not change her mind btw thanks buddy for advice )

Wanting to experience what you are experiencing is not a 'stiupid' approach, it's perfectly normal and human. It's quite impossible to be ready for the psychedelic experience, and if you watched videos together on the topic, well... Trying to play gatekeeper and judging the motives and readiness of others is just as damaging as trying to push the experience on them.


Curiosity is a valid reason to take psychedelics. It is the definition of 'opening your mind'. You know, when the first human thought 'hey what's that thing, it looks weird'... that's where we started to grow as a species, to 'open our minds'. Open to knowledge, to experience.

Hmm u got me there that's a good point of view
Any tips introduce her first to schrooms or light DMT trip ?
Thanks for advice buddy

Does she really want to? Does she have a basically stable personality? Is she on any type of meds?

My wife decided she wanted to try psychedelics and she hasn't tried weed and typically doesn't finish a beer. I was hesitant, but when she asked the third time I said "Ok then, let's do this". Long story short she tried cactus and was miserable with the body load, enjoyed 1p LSD and handled it like a champ, same with shrooms. Then one day she said she kinda wanted to do some 1p but wasn't really up to the whole 12 hour start to finish, so I suggested she vape some eleaf. She didn't like the sudden onset and said it was "Up in my face".

These days she's come full circle and says she "Can't believe she did drugs". Oh well, she gave it a chance.

Lessons learned?

1) I was correct that her personality was perfectly capable of handling a psychedelic experience. She stresses less on them than I do.

2) I probably should have known she wouldn't find much value in psychedelics. She is very religious and her few, rather mild experiences with psychedelics didn't have her questioning her programming.

3) People can have very much atypical reactions to psychedelics. Cactus tea had her immobilized on the sofa for hours and she experienced nausea for the entire ride, even after purging. On the other hand she was sparkly-eyed and smiling peaking on LSD. First time I did LSD I puked out of sheer shock at how high I was.

4) I pushed her into it even if I didn't try to talk her into it the first time. She tried psychedelics to make me happy and that has me questioning my motivations.

That's interesting

Nah she's not on meds, I think she's want to... Or maybe she's just curious (or just want try with me ) her mind is stable and she got very strong personality she got very spiritual family specially her auntie and she can feel auras so ye ..