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#1 Posted : 10/24/2011 10:58:18 AM
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hey there I'm very new with this but can someone give me some guides for using 100g Mimosa Hostilis Powdered.
I lookd at some guides but no luck u need different recipe's.
so if anyone could just link some guides i be very thanks full.
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#2 Posted : 10/24/2011 11:20:53 AM

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#3 Posted : 10/24/2011 11:23:34 AM

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Do you want to extract it or brew it? If you extract you could get around a gram of Spice which would be sufficient for extensive experimentation Very happy
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#4 Posted : 10/24/2011 11:27:19 AM
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depends which way easier for me I'm new to this so easiest guide will do thanks guys
 
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#5 Posted : 10/24/2011 11:39:58 AM

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Well assuming you want to extract and smoke, this TEK is about as easy as it gets, and I reliably get around 1% yields with it: https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Noman%27s_tek

Should you want to brew, for a longer lasting experience, I would refer to the Ayahuasca section, there are also cold water extraction teks which basically involve leaving the mimosa in cold water for a few weeks and then drinking that, there are many options open to you Smile
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#6 Posted : 10/24/2011 11:45:08 AM
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thanks man really appreciate it might try the brew method that might be easiest
 
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#7 Posted : 10/24/2011 11:55:01 AM

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Smoking may be a better option first time round, as it's over quickly, if you over do or don't like the brew, you're gonna have to deal with it for hours. But I don't want to push a method that you don't want to use, just my opinion.
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#8 Posted : 10/24/2011 12:05:52 PM
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ahh k. if i do norman's tek guide reckon you could help me out add me on msn or facebook.

prob need the extra help im rlly bad with chemistry
 
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#9 Posted : 10/24/2011 12:14:30 PM

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Read the faq and a few different teks, spend a few days/weeks reading it all, using the FAQ and forum search function to find answers to questions you might have..

We are here ready to help you out if you cant find answers, but you have to do your part. I mean, think about it, all the important things in life, you have to make an effort to achieve/maintain them. Cooking food can be harder than extracting alkaloids. You just have to generally understand what you're doing, no need to be a chemist, most of us arent. All the information you would ever need is in this community

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#10 Posted : 10/24/2011 12:14:48 PM

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Do not worry about messing up with extracting from MHRB. Most of the DMT extraction teks on this site are very forgiving. If you work with Nomanβ€˜s tek it’s very hard to get it wrong. You need no prior chemistry experience to extract.

Follow the steps in the tek exactly and you will be fine. If you have any questions during extraction we are all here to help.
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#11 Posted : 10/24/2011 12:18:39 PM
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ok thanks guy Very happy
 
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#12 Posted : 10/24/2011 1:19:17 PM

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frosty wrote:
ahh k. if i do norman's tek guide reckon you could help me out add me on msn or facebook.

prob need the extra help im rlly bad with chemistry


Due to the nature of what we do here, I'm not giving out any revealing personal info, sorry. Feel free to drop me a PM if you like though Smile It is as easy as following a recipe though, I am by no means a chemist.
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#13 Posted : 10/24/2011 5:13:41 PM

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No you cannot MAKE DMT with mimosa powder. You can EXTRACT it though.
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#14 Posted : 1/6/2019 12:48:15 AM

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hello,dont know if i this is correct thread to post but i need help as well.
im about to extract 100g powdered m.tenuiflora. i have attempted extracts in the past years with different variety of plants that fall in acacia/mimmosa/anadenathera category plants but i dont think i have achieved extracting dmt yet either because the species ive extracted are non active or im doing something wrong although i spend time researching reading about active dmt/other tryptamines plants and sources and experiment with the plants that i gather around my town. since im not a vet nor chemist, and neither have i experienced dmt yet; only shrooms,bromo dragonfly ,and lsd.
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#15 Posted : 1/6/2019 2:40:45 AM

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Hi wisperlokote,

It would probably be helpful to start a thread, and explain the methods you've used or what you plan to use.

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hello,dont know if i this is correct thread to post but i need help as well.
im about to extract 100g powdered m.tenuiflora. i have attempted extracts in the past years with different variety of plants that fall in acacia/mimmosa/anadenathera category plants but i dont think i have achieved extracting dmt yet either because the species ive extracted are non active or im doing something wrong although i spend time researching reading about active dmt/other tryptamines plants and sources and experiment with the plants that i gather around my town. since im not a vet nor chemist, and neither have i experienced dmt yet; only shrooms,bromo dragonfly ,and lsd.


That's probably the extent of information that is relevant to extractions. The rest, while it's your opinion, is slightly off topic to the original poster's question. If you'd like to talk about that, I would suggest starting a different thread to discuss that material.

Also, it makes it very difficult to read when the entire post is one paragraph. You can easily edit it, and adjust the post so that is has a little bit better flow and spacing between the paragraphs - but I think you'll get a better response if you make a new thread, and give all the details about the extraction.

If you want to talk about the other stuff - I, personally, would not include it in an extraction thread. It will make the flow of discussion very sporadic and some folks may feel less inclined to participate.

Either way: Welcome, and I wish you well on your journey.

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#16 Posted : 1/6/2019 4:31:47 AM

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yep, kind of thought that. wanted to share in a way my intro. totally right , it is one paragraph. it is because the computer im using is missing keys and kind of messed up keyboard. that makes it difficult for me to type correctly specially when theres a lot to say and explain.
Will edit though and correct it. thank you and i will post pics of the extraction im working on now with that powder mimosa.t. thanks again.this shows my powdered bark in citric acid and salt solution. 50 g mhrb, 200g to 200ml heat baths for about 2 hrs then added 30g to 100 ml water and added that to my mix.i will let it salt out for about 3 hrs then i will basefy , im following cybs hybrid tek.
second pic is my basified solutoion with naphtha i will wait a lil over one hour to pull. although my solvent did not turn cloudy much, im wondering if it needs more lye. tek says for 50 g mhrb use 50 lye i did 15g over just to make sure but still my basified solution turned dark brown not very much black but dark. did i do something wrong. should i just wait to do my pull?
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#17 Posted : 1/7/2019 9:34:46 PM

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Hey wisperlokote,

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I have a few questions that may help me verify a few things.
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50 g mhrb, 200g to 200ml heat baths for about 2 hrs then added 30g to 100 ml water and added that to my mix.i will let it salt out for about 3 hrs then i will basefy


The values that are bold - what are you adding, specifically? Is that 200 grams of citric acid? 200 grams of salt, 200 grams of.....? And the same goes for the 30 g value. What, specifically, are you adding to the mix?


SO, you said you used 50 + 15 (65) grams of lye. It usually does turn dark. It may not always be pitch black. But, depending on what the values represent, from the quote above, it may be hard to say. I am assuming the 30 g is probably sodium chloride (regular salt).... but I don't know what the 200 grams would be...

If you added 200 grams of citric acid, then that's likely going to cause an excess amount of base that you'll need in order to neutralize all the acid. Without a pH meter, or pH strips, it is going to be very difficult to give you advice how to add the amount of base needed to get to the desired pH.

The pic seems normal. The second one looks like you've got the two layers - maybe a little bit less naphtha than I prefer to use per pull... but all methods are different. Are you still having concerns?

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Mimosa Tenuiflora is the right tree (Mimosa Hostilis) but very often this name is used when the bark is from the trunk/branch which doesn't contain DMT but is used to treat skin. Root's bark is the one useful to extract DMT.
Which one is yours ?

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#19 Posted : 1/8/2019 12:24:58 AM

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If you added 200 grams of citric acid, then that's likely going to cause an excess amount of base that you'll need in order to neutralize all the acid. Without a pH meter, or pH strips, it is going to be very difficult to give you advice how to add the amount of base needed to get to the desired pH.


hey there ACY, thanks for getting back at me. Sure thing, i did 50 g powdered root bark. 1)200g citric acid crystals to 200 mL, first i dissolved the citric acid to heated water not boiling. After my solute was ready i added the powdered bark to acidic solution.I then let it sit in heatbath for about 2hrs, shaking and stirring every 15-20 min.
After that i prepared 30 g natural sea salt to about 175mL warm water. Then i added that to my solution and let the mix sit for another hour and half.
Then i prepared my basic solution 50g 100% sodium hydroxide to 200mL cool water and gave it about an hour wait.Finally i did my pull with like 75 mL naphtha but it never turned white.Today i checked because i sat overnight in freezer but i saw no precipitation so back in it went. From then up until right now i have started 2 more extractions one stb the other a/b liquid extraction. i did several pulls up until now and started different experiments with a few of my pulls and i notice change of color in naphtha one went light yellow very little fogginess. that being the stb. im still on the liquid liquid extraction and i have just finished salting it.(just before post). i will allow my solution sit in heat baths for 2 to 3 hours on low.
will stay posted.

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Mimosa Tenuiflora is the right tree (Mimosa Hostilis) but very often this name is used when the bark is from the trunk/branch which doesn't contain DMT but is used to treat skin. Root's bark is the one useful to extract DMT.
Which one is yours ?

it is root bark. not from the trunk. only root.
 
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#20 Posted : 1/8/2019 3:19:46 AM

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Hey wisper.....

I think I see the issue.... If I'm not mistaken.... you need maybe 200 mg of citric acid. Not 200 grams. SO, in future ventures, you definitely don't need that much acid. You likely had to neutralize a lot of acid, and even then.... 200 grams of citric acid is almost a 1 Molar solution. That's way too much acid for the lysing step.

200 milligrams should be plenty. Razz

Anyways, can't undo the acid that you've already added, but you probably need to get a pH probe/meter or some pH strips (or litmus) paper. Once you know the approximate pH of the mix, then you can at least factor the pH out of the mystery of "no DMT."

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