Hello. Yesterday i was planing to make my first trip, but unfortunately i wasnt able. I think something went wrong with the spice.

Extracted it from ACRB (for some reason from the first opening of the ACRB i noticed some strong smell, that wasnt very pleasant. The smoke from the spice has exactly the same taste. I re-x 3 times. The last time i didnt freeze it, but only after melting it in warm naphta and separate i put it in glass dish and left it there for about 30 minutes to evap by blowing with vent in it. When starter to scraping it i noticed it is not dry solid crystals, but rather some sticky yellow-brown thick liquid. I made research and i though that this is the so called goo, which were even better in some cases so i decided to give it a try.

Loaded my gvg (first try ever using it) with 5 metal screens and one bigger pad, which can be ordered with the GVG from the side. I noticed that this pad doesnt fit tightly in the gvg, but there is a little space between it and the glass wall, but i wasnt sure if this will be a problem, so i place the ceramic filter on the top and starter to inhale while holding the normal butane lighter on the edge of the GVG. The flame was touching the glass and i was able to see the flame going little in direction to the ceramic filter, but i dont thing it was touching it. After 4-5 attempts i barely exhale smoke. The loaded spice was 30mg. I tought that the space left between the pad and the GVG is the reason why it is not working, so i placed 3 more screens and put 30mg directly on top of them. I noticed 30 minutes after the first load, that now the spice wes little more solid than before. Tried again and there was almost no smoke. The room was dimmed with only few candles lightened, so i wasnt able to see good what was going on inside the GVG.

The only effects i was able to feel were 2 really strong good emotions i dont think i was ever experienced before like everything was good, but each lasted for about 2-3 seconds. And 2 or 3 more which were less strong. I noticed also some color change, but this also lasted for a good 15 or 20 seconds. The sound perception become really strong and i noticed that a car from the street that pass by made me feel like the room was flipped over which really scary and i tought i entered in bad trip, but didnt was longer, even the steet is not so close to the window and the noise is not so quite loud in normal circumstances.

After that i put back the pad and the screens together, making total amount of 60mg, and tried to vape it this way, but i wasnt able to feel any further effect anymore.

Then inspection the screens i noticed that they were sticky but the spices wasnt on the top anymore. Same with the pad (probably it melted inside it). Didnt see any inside the GVG.

So what do you thing went wrong? After two re-x is it possible to be some oil left inside the spice ? Did i made mistake with not evaporating the solvent enought for 30 minutes ? Is the pad wrong used ?

I should not have rushed it, but the whole day went great and my energy was high so i decided my set of mind is in good state for it. Even that i felt quite nervous when started to inhale and wasnt in the most relaxing and free state of mind. My intentions for trying DMT is for researching my unconscious part of myself and remember when starter to feel the color change to try being just aware of the thing, but the those questions didnt stop coming up - What i am doing wrong/ What should i improve in my life. Not sure if with this intentions/ nervous state of mind going in trip next time is good.


Thank you!

Probably most dmt is still in that thick metal pad, un-vaporized.
That gvg pad has a large mass and needs quite some heat to warm up sufficiently, I don't use it any more. Screens don't help you much either, spice tends to fall trough it. IME a copper chore boy made into a little scrubber ball does the trick, it heats up fast and not drip spice trough when it melts. Then there are the ceramic disks but haven't tested those.

Time to dig into the GVG vaping threads how-to successfully vape

I red the first 12 pages of the page how to use GVG and some other threads, and exactly there i found some people are using 6-8 screens with the spice on top which is working for them, or less screens with a pad. What is why i am not sure what went wrong. I will re-read it again for sure. What do you think i should do with the screens containing the spice inside them now? Should i heat them up more or clean them from the spice and load some new one ?

Added some additional information in the first post about my state of mind and would appreciate for any advice.

i cant offer any advice on your method because ive never used one of those devices however i just wanted to point out that its often the case that those new to dmt have to learn how to smoke it properly. I will never admit how much I burned through in total waste through trial and error before i found what worked best for me..

im sure your answer is somewhere in this forum.. good luck amd safe travels

I'll second this. I tried a lot of meathods before I settled on the little dab rig I have.

Pre-heat the GVG. When you start to get a small amount of vapor it's ready. Take large tokes, drawing slow and steady. You should see thick vapor begin to fill the GVG if done correctly. One or two tokes of this thick vape should do it, although a third hit could be in order.

I use one of these -> Tada

Try this thread too -> https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=8730

Good luck!

+1!! This is what I've found to work most effectively. I use a glass pot pipe with a copper chore boy plug. The plug fills most of the bowl with a little room on top for spice. It works very well every single time. In my area you can buy a glass spoon for five bucks or less in pretty much any gas station or smoke shop.

I want to share with you that i finally succeeded in breaking trough! And yes it was the lighter. After using torch lighter everything started to happen.

Thank you all for your support in this beginning of the long path!

The main emotion i was left after the trip was total emotional detachment and just being aware of my state of mind and body.