Just out of curiousity, how many people have friends who think you spend way to much time researching about various drugs and entheogens? Or even may go as far as to call you sad because of it. It's just such an interesting hobby! i can't help myself.. I can imagine i'm not the only one in this boat but i could be wrong..

If they called me sad because of it they wouldnt be my friends any longer...

Sure people have but like I said there not in my life anymore..these are the same people that are fine sitting at the bar and getting hammered every day after work and snorting cocaine on a friday night.

My friends gf called me an "escapist"...I thought about it and agreed in a sense..I am trying to escape some part of the western mindset..

I only talk about psychedelics with people who're interested in human psychology/spirituality, who might be interested in it themselves.

The rest of the world has no idea i'm having this hobby.

Me too, but even my friends that are interested in psychedelics think i research it too much. And some say it's not a good hobby to have which i REALLY cant understand and as i said would they rather me just go out on a friday snort loads of coke and get in fights? Hm i think not.

Yeah.
I have friends who have no idea about all of this stuff and when I explain it to them, theyre all like "how do you know all this stuff", to which I reply..."it just interests me"
I have friends who are quite into drugs but would never touch psychedlics, the irony being that they are probably the ones who need them the most.

I have never really had anyone who called me sad, although I do question the amount of time that my thoughts are preoccupied with these things. I mean its pretty fuckin frequent...my thought pattern goes....sex, sex, drugs, sex, drugs, drugs ( i dont really like rock and roll) sex on drugs etc. its not really that bad, i do think of other things obviously but the amount of times i catch myself thinking about techniques and questions that im gonna post on here is stupid.
In fact im at a bit of a cross roads at the minute and am looking for a new direction job wise and been as im so into this stuff was wondering if there are any jobs in this field, but my guess is that they are all research based, and im more of a "get out and about-meet different people" type guy.

My mum knows I drink aya, eat shrooms etc...iv even asked to look for some for me : ) and shes totally cool about it. I obviously love her, but i love her especially for that.
She even sent me this the other day as she knew it would interest me.

http://www.telegraph.co....tal-health-benefits.html


Fractal enchantment....i love your comment about being an escapist of the western mindset. Far out brother

PS the fact that i dont really have many friends who are into this stuff, makes me appreciate you guys alot more.
Fuckin love yall!!!
I would just love to have a Nexus party with all of you. Im thinkin that would rival the burning man festival : )

Quoted for truth. I now have two groups of friends. We all journeyed years ago with diff psych's but now the "go get blasted drunk and wired" group think I'm withdrawing, possibly going crazy, and generally avoiding me. Mind you it's a combination of this and the fact that my child was killed and some people just can't deal with me and my feelings. This has provided them with a convenient excuse to stay away. I mean not totally ignore me but there is a chasm growing and I for one don't mind.

The other group has opened up their minds and several of them have benefited and come around to where I'm coming from. Keep in mind if you are comfortable with where you are and making personal progress then any friend casualties can only be looked at as necessary collateral damage. Work on those you love as in your family.

I also believe it's important to not lose yourself either. As with any intrest it's never good to have tunnel vision and become single minded with anything.

It depends (I know, I hate that answer too).

I have fairly good friends, and they know I'm sort of turning into a "psychedelic junky" as the stereotype goes. But I take it with a good sense of humor. We've been friends for a while now and we all joke about eachother in some way or another. So they're calling you "sad"? How exactly are they wording the sentence, and in what tone?

There's a difference between joking about someones hobby and downright criticizing their character. Calling you an escapist is rather rude, and I'd stay away from that person.

It's impossible to argue with people about alcohol, pharmaceutical drugs, and street drugs vs psychedelics. I find they always come up with some way to generalize or try to make the "drugs" look bad. It's then that I realize just how much these drugs have taught me, can they honestly be this narrow minded?? It's like they're stuck in a loop and they can't see a way out, it's frustrating trying to argue with them. It's almost frightening to think about it.

i hear you bro. i also know a few that do psychedelics (mainly acid) for 'fun'. I keep trying to explain the benefits of time alone, in the dark, but it doesn't seem to register.

the people i consider my close friends will entertain my views, even those that are very anti-drug. it's so hard trying to explain/get people to understand when they haven't experienced anything like it themselves.

Nobody knows about what I do apart from my mother brother and sister. And they really don't get it. I know there opinion of what I do is a common one, and this puts distance between us. That used to bother me but doesn't anymore. Everyone else doesn't have a clue. I prefer it that way. If they aren't already doing what I do then they aren't going to get it.

I used to have a lot more contact with people who were into drugs, but have moved away from that scene of recent years. I have always stayed interested in psy's though, and I imagine I always will. I presently have friends who would take (mild) doses of shrooms with me, and we do still take mdma on occasion.

But no one knows about the spice, and very few know about my research into psy's in general. I think it is just too far out for most people to understand or take seriously.

It makes me a bit sad though, to be honest I'd love to have someone to share the experiences with.

Even with the people I know that are into these things..they are not into it they way that I am.. for one thing they cannot comprehend why I dont want to smoke weed anymore..or why I would instead just take these strange tryptamine psychedelics, alone at night, and more than once a week..

I dunno if most people could do what alot of us here do. I take either DMT or bufotenine, aya or mushrooms every 3rd night or so lately..poses alot of shit for one to think about for one thing..I am left with more questions than answers in the end..

I think about this stuff ALOT..all day..doesnt really ever leave my mind..evrything I look at in our culture comes through this psychedelic filter that I have gained from all these trips..not that I am always high I like to have like 2 days of sober reality inbetween at least..and not smoking weed helps me do that and come down properly and think rationally about it..but I am an explorer cant help that it's in my blood and what I do..all my life I have always been drawn to this sort of thing..when I found psychedelics I knew that was where I wanted to go..that was what worked..

My life basically revolves around studying psychedelics and plants, mindstates and culture..I really like culture and anthropology..and skimboarding/surfing..I try to get to the beach and skimboard at least every other day if not once every day, surf when I can.. those are the things that matter to me..art and music are important as well..I find that all these things and my lifestyle go real well with psychedelics..

I dont like to work much..not more than I need to..but it's a hard thing to work around..hopefully when I finish school I can have a job that I like doing, I have done enough construction in my life thank you very much..

Eventaully I want to move to vancouver island or somewhere else where there is more surf than in the city here and life is more laid back so I can work doing what I want to do and live happily, with a good balance between surfing/skimboarding, my psychedelic life and work..this stuff is just a part of me..I wouldnt be me otherwise..

Man. I dont think our situation could be more similar.

My friend got me into psychedelics by saying mushrooms would expand my mind and give me insights into myself, but even though I tripped a few times overall (always with my friends). We have completely different views on psychedelics.

I after my 3rd or 4th trip became so interested in them that I spent ours researching everything I could find on psychedelics. I bought books by McKenna and Leary and others. I spend much more time learning about consciousness and the universe than doing things in my university classes (without it interfering with my classes).

My friends really don't get it why I'm so interested in them, they just say that it gives them insights into themselves but when I offer to trip they always say no. So I can't understand why people who say that they experienced exactly the same thing as me, can be so indifferent to the topics of psychedelics, spirituality, consciousness, universe etc. while at the same time thinking I'm crazy to be so interested to put so much time to research these topics.

My friends seem to appreciate my thirst for knowledge. (Entheogens and computers mainly, I'm a geek )
The appreciation especially comes when someone is about to try datura for the first time and I save them from the impending hell.

Honestly, if I think a friend isn't on my level of appreciation for entheogens, I simply don't mention them in the manner I would to someone more savvy. If they're just about "getting fucked up", I let them be ... and even sometimes participate (just not with anything I would called spiritual like DMT)

<-- without a doubt. Major geek at heart. Everyone seems to have the exact same thoughts as me, which is good.

I never bring anything up about drugs to people that dont care/dont take them and i also REALLY dont get how there not the same as me wanting to research everything there is to know. Because theres so much!!!

I suppose for some, ignorance is bliss ..
Well, ignorance or laziness, I guess that's up for interpretation.

I like the saying "knowledge is power" personally.

there's so much to discover about psychedelics in particular that has never been researched before...it makes it so attractive, like a whole universe waiting to be explored...

my friends reacted in a similar way at one point; they were just worried about me. Once some time had passed, they realised I wasn't destroying myself, and that it was a legitimate interest and a good thing for me [I think..] My gf also got a bit bored of me ranting on and on about crazy things

sticks and stoners

Haha, man heres another direct similarity. I'm so glad i made this thread. It feels like everyone on this forum is/was in the exact same boat, definitely put me at ease. Go nexus!