Hi Family,

first of all thank you very much for your contribution here.....I could benefit so far that I extracted DMT and now doing changa....for which I feel much gratitude for the community here....thank you!!!

For the changa i cooked down 20gramm caapi leafs and mixed the leftover with 2gr new caspi leafs.
Now i want also add harmala freebase.

To answer my question how much MAOI i will need I researched the forum and again and again got the info that everybody should find out for him/herself.

But.....what is the effect of it.....how can i see which amaunt is the right? I mean...do i recognize it on the time the dmt-effect lasts or on any kind of “quality“ of the experience?

Would be very nice to read some advices!

Thank you!

Imo, maybe smoke the Harmala extract separately (right before the Changa) and try different dosages to see what you like best? Me personally, i've never particularly cared how much Harmalas i consume, the more the better, although i don't wanna consume too much especially orally, but smoked, i usually went for Harmala-heavy Changa.

yeh ito sure about that, I do'nt smoke high dose of harmalas to the poitn it would knock me like when I use them orally. BUt 300mg Fb harmalas to 1000 gr of n,n DMT is a good ratio. that's what I do. BUt then you can always dose before or after, dose harmalas orally before too etc... get to know harmalas, try them alone and diffeent ROA. those are nice alcaloids but often underated as it is less of a light show than DMT circus.

This is what I do;
I grab a shot glass and add a little bit of Everclear (just enough to contain everything)
Add: 500mg DMT
500mg herb (personally Mullein)
now stir.
50mg harmine/harmaline freebase (FB) alcaloids.
now stir.

Leave to dry in front of fan. When the shot glass is dry, then pass the changa into a larger surface area (small glass bowl) and dry 6 hours more at least infront of power 3 fan. Important not to leave traces of alcohol.


Harmine is beautiful, but too much harmine, in my oppinion, will leave you too doped out and unable to move after the trip...but that is not necessariliy bad. Its like cannabis; in the right conditions, a little bit can take you a long way.

I have found that 10% of harmine in changa is an effective changa. 25% and above very good, but definitley bordering on territory where you are gonna be very sedated by the harmine during trip and upon awakening...that is beautiful, but for me a little bit too intense to do everyday like I would lower harmine changa.


Harmine seems to keep me a little bit more relaxed and 'earthy' rather than pure dmt, which is aliens from another dimension. I see green plants rather than strange humanoid aliens trying to comunicate in space.

Too much harmine will also make me feel like I do not care about anything...very detached, which in a slight way decreases mental faculties, since in excitment and euforia is when my brain functions faster and smarter and more beautifuly.

Pro is that if your changa has lower levels of/or no harmine, then if you eat scrambled eggs before tripping you will not projectile vomit.

Con, DMT without the calming, natural effect of harmine is slightly unsafer... At least in my imagination.


Peace and love!

So you take harmine and harmaline, but of the two, it's the harmine that sedates you?
The consensus on here is that harmaline is the sedating and mentally foggy alkaloid, while harmine is non-sedating and clear-headed.

I knew you were hardcore rOmnOm, but a kilogram of DMT in your changa!

For the record, that should probably read 300 mg of harmalas per 1000 mg (1 gram) of DMT

Thank you all for your detailed reoorts....especially you, FranLover!

Totally agree. This is my favorite ratio right now. 30% harmalas



You're very welcome