I'd like to share with you some of my experiences with what I understand it's called the hypnagogic state - a state of consciousness defined by being the transitional state between wakefulness and sleep.

The first experience happened while I was waking up in the morning one day. While the dream was fading away, I got stuck in what I see people describe as sleep paralysis, but I would say it was more a controlled sleep paralysis if that makes sense. I could've gotten out of it in the sense that I was able to feel my body to some extent and move it if I wanted to, but I was mentally in a state...well hard to define.. I had that feeling I have when I realize I'm in a dream, but I was also aware that I was in the process of waking up. I couldn't see anything, everything was pitch-black, but not like it is when you close you eyes. I had the feeling that I'm in my head, like spatially, but I was simultaneously aware that, in real life,
I'm laying in my bed, about to wake up. My body felt really heavy, and I couldn't feel my arms and legs very much, like someone injected me with an anesthetic. I'd describe it as having TV static inside your limbs. Over the blackness that
I was experiencing, colors started to form, mostly red and orange, like clouds of dust. Then they started to vibrate and become brighter and I could feel my field of vision expand.(like you know, normally you have maximum 180 degree vision, you only see what's in front of you, well I felt like my vision was slowly expanding towards 360 degrees). As these sensations increased in intensity I started to hear a voice talking to me in a language that I couldn't identify. The voice was part human-like, part other-worldly, and it didn't feel like coming from outside, but rather from within, like it was forming inside my mind.(kind of like in Shpongle's album here https://youtu.be/D6sJ7U1VswY at time 48:00 use headphones for best experience) It didn't feel like a hallucination and it didn't feel dream-like. It felt really stable and real. I didn't have control over it. It kept repeating 2 or 3 phrases in this alien language that I couldn't understand exactly, but somehow I had an idea what it was all about. It was something about the connection between my world and the entity's world and it was trying to explain to me how to communicate with it. Then the colors turned intro light and I felt like I was being pulled into something. At that point I got scared and woke up and that's how it ended.

I know this forum is mainly dedicated to DMT, but I've actually never tried DMT before. I hope since everyone here is highly evolved spiritually and experienced with altered states of consciousness that I don't sound completely crazy. I don't know a better place to talk about this than here.

recently i experienced shifting from a lucid dream into sleep paralysis. it was similar sounding but without any dream characters. the shift was very fluid, as i watched my perception change from a dream space into darkness and loss of movement with the characteristic fear. this was the first and only time Ive experienced such a thing with dreaming.

often if ive had a very restless sleep, i will wake up to these bizarre dreams that always very abstract and involve some phrase, action or concept repeating over and over, doing circles, or stretching out.. most if not all of the time it feels meaningful at first while always eventually collapsing into gibberish. it feels as if im in a sort of secondary trance like state right between sleep and wake with similarities to thought loops that can be experienced while awake.

for example the other night one of those dreams consisted of me using a camera to take a picture of somebody, however the cameras shutter stayed open and as i walked around with it, other people came into view and in the image was this growing blob of a human that for whatever reason i received as being some powerful insight into human interconnectedness. i continued walking around with the camera until the image became so complex and profound that it kind of triggered a semi lucid state that just woke me up..

these always seemed like a particular kind of dream thats pretty unique.. your description of what happened strikes me as one of these sorts of dreams..


dreaming can be easily just as fascinating to explore as dmt in my opinion. there might be even more possibilities at hand with dreaming. years ago i used to stick random little pieces of blotter paper in my mouth during lucid dreams to see what effects they had. one led to my first "dmt" experience. which later i found it was remarkably similar to the real thing. this happened with a few substances.

thanks for sharing.

keep on dreaming

When I couldn't sleep when I was a kid, I used to just lie still, and do hours of "hypnagogic hallucinations".

And yeah, the images have a "classic psychedelic quality", it's very much activating the same part of the mind. For example, you can start merging faces into each other (I guess the facial recognition part of the brain is like it is activating and firing randomly (almost like it's "defragging" ).

I certainly had a lot of dreams that felt like journeys into other realities. One night I recall taking this benzodiazepine called lorazepam which my doctor prescribed me to help with the insomnia I had at the time. As I went to sleep, I suddenly found myself floating in the air at a height comparable to a 10 floor building, in the middle of a city. The buildings of the city were not very modern, they looked more like they were from a time somewhere before world war 1. I don't remember if I was aware that I was dreaming at that time, but I remember having control of my body in that space and being able to look wherever I wanted to. Everything looked very real and 3-dimensional, very highly defined, almost more real that reality itself. Also this dream felt really stable. I would look at an object, then change my focus to something else, then look back at the object and it would still be there, looking exactly the same, but for some reason every time I blinked with my imaginary body, certain parts of the buildings were replaced, INSTANTLY, like a GENERATE RANDOM BUILDING button. Definitely one of my top 10 most W.T.F. dreams.

This phenomenon occurs very frequently in my normal dreams. Sometimes it's a positive experience, sometimes not so much. I would say this though: it's definitely not very enjoyable to experience this effect while you're engaged in romantic activities with an imaginary female. -->